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Stirlingsays Flag 20 Sep 19 4.06pm

A person who on the Robinson thread stated that what's effective is more important than what is true has the gall to complain about 'lies'.

This clown has been lying where it suits him on Hol since he turned up.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Sep 19 4.08pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course I am not always right! No-one is.

I am though right sometimes and I am on this matter. Not just a little bit right. 100% factually right.

However, as people are quite rightly really tired of your nonsense and my efforts to correct you, which have so obviously failed, I will leave it there and let you wallow alone in your self made mess if you really cannot stop.

Surely the question of right or wrong needs to be decided by our representatives. We cannot be entrusted to decide for ourselves.

 


Red and Blue Army!

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 20 Sep 19 4.43pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It's no battle!

It's a walkover of truth v lies but the defeated refuses to lie down. This isn't 52 v 48 it's 100 v 0.

Rather like the remainers, yes?

 

Stirlingsays Flag 20 Sep 19 4.55pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Interesting article by BBC. Harriet Harman wants to be Speaker but her local party is not happy.

[Link]

I have no idea if she will get the votes but my sympathy is with her constituency voters.

I find the idea that someone like Harman can be a neutral speaker as almost comical.

The tenure of Bercow has truly damaged this position and we need someone who truly respects the role to be handed it....not another narcissist who still wants to be involved.

 


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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 20 Sep 19 4.57pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Of course I am not always right! No-one is.

I am though right sometimes and I am on this matter. Not just a little bit right. 100% factually right.

However, as people are quite rightly really tired of your nonsense and my efforts to correct you, which have so obviously failed, I will leave it there and let you wallow alone in your self made mess if you really cannot stop.

Your correction as you call it is wrong. I did say in answer to your original question that Gina Miller was originally funded by money she did receive from the group Soros paid into and now gets funded from begging from the public. NOTE: [Link]
What is so hard for you to understand ???????

You are the one in the wrong.

 


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steeleye20 Flag Croydon 20 Sep 19 5.20pm

Brexit Party MEPs abstain from vote calling for release of detained British citizen in Iran.

Brexit 'patriots' fail to support an imprisoned British citizen.

Unlike the rest of the EU parliament.

Whatever are they doing there anyway, just there to disrupt as much as they can while coining in the money.

 

W12 20 Sep 19 5.34pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Brexit Party MEPs abstain from vote calling for release of detained British citizen in Iran.

Brexit 'patriots' fail to support an imprisoned British citizen.

Unlike the rest of the EU parliament.

Whatever are they doing there anyway, just there to disrupt as much as they can while coining in the money.

“One of the party's MEP's, Belinda de Lucy, told the Parliament, sitting in Strasbourg, that it was 'sanctions' not 'words' that were needed now.

'As Iran grows bolder in its provocations, it appears the Eu's deal with Iran is failing in its objectives. Even it's most important signatory, the USA, has pulled out,' she said.

'British citizens are the subject of kidnapping, solitary confinement, and barbarity.

'Our citizens have become pawns in this geopolitical game, and yet the EU remains the biggest global champion of the Iran nuclear deal with cynical commercial undertones”

Did you ever work for the BBC?

 

Stirlingsays Flag 20 Sep 19 5.34pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Brexit Party MEPs abstain from vote calling for release of detained British citizen in Iran.

Brexit 'patriots' fail to support an imprisoned British citizen.

Unlike the rest of the EU parliament.

Whatever are they doing there anyway, just there to disrupt as much as they can while coining in the money.

Aren't they 'married in' British?.....so actually an example of 'passport' British.

I would have to know far more about the case before I could judge on it personally.

As for the Brexit party being disruptive.....errrr? That's why people voted for them.....and they can 'coin' as much as the other MEPs there until we leave.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 20 Sep 19 7.10pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Surely the question of right or wrong needs to be decided by our representatives. We cannot be entrusted to decide for ourselves.

On questions of opinion, yes.

On questions of fact, no.

Truth is truth. Facts are fact. Lies are lies. There is only one opinion on such matters.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 20 Sep 19 7.31pm

Originally posted by the silurian

Rather like the remainers, yes?

If you read what I wrote then you will understand why it's not.

The Brexit referendum produced an almost equal split result between two opinions.

This matter concerns what is 100% true, as confirmed by the links he referenced, and the untrue claims he made which I repeated to him in his own words. This was never a matter of opinion.

All of this is quite obviously of no importance whatsoever in the bigger scheme of things and, although I don't remember ever saying so before, I guess sometimes the result is more important than the way it is achieved. Nevertheless blatant lies need to be called out. Isn't the expression that a lie can be halfway around the world before the truth has got it's boots on?

 


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jeeagles Flag 20 Sep 19 7.39pm

Originally posted by the silurian

Its not just 60,000 a year though....its 79,000 + unlimited expenses (with no reciepts required) + subsidised bars restaurants + mortgages paid, long holidays + etc etc...so somewhat more than 60k a year
and you dont have to be that bright to be an MP...see the Peterboro MP and Diane Abbott for proof of this

Edited by the silurian (20 Sep 2019 8.57am)

You get thick MP's like her because it's not worth it. Compare it to a CEO's wage and its pants.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 20 Sep 19 7.44pm

Originally posted by susmik

Your correction as you call it is wrong. I did say in answer to your original question that Gina Miller was originally funded by money she did receive from the group Soros paid into and now gets funded from begging from the public. NOTE: [Link]
What is so hard for you to understand ???????

You are the one in the wrong.

I said I would leave you to wallow in your own mess and after this I really hope I can,

What you say above is yet another lie.

It's NOT what you said. You said Soros funded it personally. See my post at 11.10 this morning which quotes your own words.

That wasn't the link you used either. The one you did use was from an earlier article which confirmed what I told you. That the funds to "Best for Britain" came from a Soros funded foundation. There is no evidence that "Best for Britain" help fund any of the Court cases, which have all been crowd funded. "Begging" is just Express hyperbole.

As I have suggested many times I really think it would be wise for you to stop digging your hole.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (20 Sep 2019 7.58pm)

 


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the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 20 Sep 19 7.48pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

You get thick MP's like her because it's not worth it. Compare it to a CEO's wage and its pants.

Maybe it is pants, BUT nobody forces them to be MPs do they...so why do it if it so s***e...must be a reason...wonder what that could be....unlimited expenses to clean your duckpond perhaps??

 

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 20 Sep 19 7.49pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you read what I wrote then you will understand why it's not.

The Brexit referendum produced an almost equal split result between two opinions.

This matter concerns what is 100% true, as confirmed by the links he referenced, and the untrue claims he made which I repeated to him in his own words. This was never a matter of opinion.

All of this is quite obviously of no importance whatsoever in the bigger scheme of things and, although I don't remember ever saying so before, I guess sometimes the result is more important than the way it is achieved. Nevertheless blatant lies need to be called out. Isn't the expression that a lie can be halfway around the world before the truth has got it's boots on?

zzzzzzzzzzzzz!! Go out tomorrow and get yourself a sense of humour pal!

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 20 Sep 19 8.04pm

Originally posted by the silurian

zzzzzzzzzzzzz!! Go out tomorrow and get yourself a sense of humour pal!

If you think what you said was funny then don't change your day job to become a comedian.

My sense of humour is perfectly fine. I just don't find much to laugh about here. Much more here makes me feel very sad at how so many know so little about our democracy and how it works. It's all very sad.

 


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cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Sep 19 8.06pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It wouldn't be the first time as he can be a bit of an escape artist when he has a mind to be, but no, not this time. We're back now but will be out again later as it's a great day here and too good to miss.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (20 Sep 2019 2.23pm)

Tbh wissy.
Your dog needs to be trained to find the pub and get lost in there.
It would surely take at least three pints and a bag of peanuts to find him.
Then point the finger at him when the old lady starts asking why his walk took 2 hours.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Sep 19 8.12pm

Maybe some the mps who are fighting brexit were doing it originally because they could see leaving to be bad and not a benefit in any way.
Could they actually see it wont be that bad but are too far gone to recoup any credibility if they do an about turn.
Pride can be a weakness.

 

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 20 Sep 19 8.30pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

On questions of opinion, yes.

On questions of fact, no.

Truth is truth. Facts are fact. Lies are lies. There is only one opinion on such matters.

A lot of philosophical work has been done on things like this and it is far more complicated than that. But don't worry too much; I won't bore everyone with the debate. But, off the top of my head, Plato's treatise on truths is probably the starting point.
Brexit seems to have few facts: I guess one fact is that the referendum result was leave. Another is that it hasn't happened. But certainly wouldn't be too sure about some so-called facts.

 


Red and Blue Army!

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 20 Sep 19 8.32pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

If you think what you said was funny then don't change your day job to become a comedian.

My sense of humour is perfectly fine. I just don't find much to laugh about here. Much more here makes me feel very sad at how so many know so little about our democracy and how it works. It's all very sad.

err, I didnt say anything you boring supercilious old fart. Youre just boring everyone on here to death with your 'Im superior to you' attitude and your attempts at using big words to belittle anyone who disagrees with you....so carry on pal Im bored with you now.....

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 20 Sep 19 8.49pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

A lot of philosophical work has been done on things like this and it is far more complicated than that. But don't worry too much; I won't bore everyone with the debate. But, off the top of my head, Plato's treatise on truths is probably the starting point.
Brexit seems to have few facts: I guess one fact is that the referendum result was leave. Another is that it hasn't happened. But certainly wouldn't be too sure about some so-called facts.

I guess another might be that there is a difference of opinion on what "leave" actually meant!

 


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