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jeeagles Flag 21 Sep 19 7.23am

Originally posted by the silurian

Maybe it is pants, BUT nobody forces them to be MPs do they...so why do it if it so s***e...must be a reason...wonder what that could be....unlimited expenses to clean your duckpond perhaps??

I don't think you get my point.
If wages where better, then they might get some better candidates (especially labour).

 

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Sep 19 7.24am

Originally posted by SW19 CPFC

Thomas cook.

Discuss

My mate booked a holiday with City Breaks for next week we arranged to meet in Seville as I am also off to Spain. City Breaks went bust 2 months ago so for a while he was uncertain if it would happen.

Still the good news was that he booked it through a travel agent, Thomas Cook.

I think I will call him lucky. He's supposed to fly Monday.

As for TC you may not have noticed but they are the last chain of high street travel agents. Gone the way of the dodo I'm afraid.

Any potential buyer will close the stores its the airline and the tour company they want.

 


One more point

Badger11 Flag Beckenham 21 Sep 19 7.34am

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Yep all true.

Harman, was an official in the 'National Council for Civil Liberties'. alongside her husband who became a Labour front bench MP and Patricia Hewitt, a former Labour Cabinet minister under Tony Blair, and they all worked for the council in the 1970s.

In 1975, the campaign group – which lives on today as human rights watchdog Liberty – granted official “affiliate” status to the Paedophile Information Exchange (PIE), a body which lobbied openly for child sex.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Sep 2019 12.00am)

I don't care for Harriet Harman however I was more interested in the constitutional issue rather than the individual when I posted the link.

For some voters having their MP as speaker is a good thing. However Harman's own local party are not happy because they want an MP that plays an active role in party politics and so the role of speaker actually disenfranchises the voters.

I wonder how the voters of Buckinghamshire feel about Bercow. None of the other major parties stood against him so his re-election was almost automatic since he took the job.

The Speakers role is important but on reflection I would not like my MP to do it.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Sep 2019 7.34am)

 


One more point

Midlands Eagle Flag 21 Sep 19 7.46am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No-one is forced to read my posts either.

Unfortunately I am

 

Spiderman Flag Horsham 21 Sep 19 7.55am

Originally posted by Jimenez

Market forces old son. A bit like another thread where the general thrust was to stop buying the Sun newspaper, and my response was who actually walks into a newsagents of a morning & spends 25p on a paper? Certainly not the numbers that used to say even 10 years ago.
In much the same way as a Landline phone those numbers must of plummeted or the good old fashioned telephone box?
Most people don't need to schlepp down to their local High st nowadays to book a holiday when they can sit in the comfort of their own home & do it on their own computer.
Unfortunately Thomas Cook were obviously unaware of this & didn't adapt quick enough.

Spot on. I have been waiting for the "blame Brexit" brigade to start. TC has been going down the pan for years with other Travel Agents.

 

sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 21 Sep 19 8.39am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Unfortunately I am

I have autism and even i feel your pain.

 

the silurian Flag The garden of England.(not really) 21 Sep 19 8.43am

Originally posted by jeeagles

I don't think you get my point.
If wages where better, then they might get some better candidates (especially labour).

no you'd still get the same old corrupt useless MPs we have now, they'd just cost more!

 

susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 21 Sep 19 8.46am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I said I would leave you to wallow in your own mess and after this I really hope I can,

What you say above is yet another lie.

It's NOT what you said. You said Soros funded it personally. See my post at 11.10 this morning which quotes your own words.

That wasn't the link you used either. The one you did use was from an earlier article which confirmed what I told you. That the funds to "Best for Britain" came from a Soros funded foundation. There is no evidence that "Best for Britain" help fund any of the Court cases, which have all been crowd funded. "Begging" is just Express hyperbole.

As I have suggested many times I really think it would be wise for you to stop digging your hole.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (20 Sep 2019 7.58pm)

You really do need help !!!!

 


Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

Invalid user 2019 Flag 23 Sep 19 3.12pm

Westminster voting intention
... if held after the deadline for Brexit has been extended beyond 31 Oct:

LAB: 25% (-3)
CON: 22% (-4)
LDEM: 21% (+1)
BREX: 20% (+3)
GRN: 5% (+1)

via @ComRes, 18 - 19 Sep
Chgs. w/ 06 Sep (same Q)


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The above suggests to me that 31st Oct is do or die for Boris. If there's another extension it'll massively count against them in a GE, and if there isn't another extension, and we leave then the Brexit Party is effectively dead, a veritable dream for the party.

Of course there could also be a deal on or prior to that date too, which is probably still a much more likely outcome than people tend to believe even this late in the day.

 

Invalid user 2019 Flag 23 Sep 19 3.14pm

Britain Elects, ‘Westminster voting intention ... if held after the UK revokes Article 50 and remains in the EU after a period of extension beyond 31 Oct:
LAB: 26%
BREX: 22%
CON: 20%
LDEM: 20%
GRN: 6%
via @ComRes, 18 - 19 Sep’

 

dannyboy1978 Flag 24 Sep 19 7.10am

On a lighter note
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Matov Flag 24 Sep 19 10.48am

There will not be enough lamp-posts at this rate.

I think we need to face up to the fact that the votes of 17.4 million people are going to be ripped up and discarded. This has been the ultimate expression of the Establishment and effectively cripples the executive.

How Boris reacts in the next 48 hours defines the next 25 years of our country's history.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 24 Sep 19 10.56am

Originally posted by Matov

There will not be enough lamp-posts at this rate.

I think we need to face up to the fact that the votes of 17.4 million people are going to be ripped up and discarded. This has been the ultimate expression of the Establishment and effectively cripples the executive.

How Boris reacts in the next 48 hours defines the next 25 years of our country's history.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with "the votes of 17.4 million people". It has only to do with the supremacy of Parliament over the executive. The only way for Johnson to react with him retaining any kind of credibility is to immediately resign.

This was a devastating judgement expressed in the clearest possible terms.

A great day for British democracy.

 


For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Sep 19 11.06am

Hells bells never expected that.

The 'establishment' always wins is what I have been brought up with.

For Charles I nobody could be found to chop his head off so they got a guy in from France to do it.

Obviously we can't have Jonny Foreigner muscling in at the moment so I nominate Christan Benteke to do it.

Hang on though, he'd only miss.......

 

Lyons550 Flag Shirley 24 Sep 19 11.12am

All getting very exciting now isn't it?!

Which direction will this farce learch towards next i wonder?

Lets hope there's a deal otherwise how long before riots start?

 


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Lyons550 Flag Shirley 24 Sep 19 11.13am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It has nothing whatsoever to do with "the votes of 17.4 million people". It has only to do with the supremacy of Parliament over the executive. The only way for Johnson to react with him retaining any kind of credibility is to immediately resign.

This was a devastating judgement expressed in the clearest possible terms.

A great day for British democracy.


This is probably the first time i've agreed with what you've said

 


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Matov Flag 24 Sep 19 11.16am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

It has nothing whatsoever to do with "the votes of 17.4 million people". It has only to do with the supremacy of Parliament over the executive. The only way for Johnson to react with him retaining any kind of credibility is to immediately resign.

This was a devastating judgement expressed in the clearest possible terms.

A great day for British democracy.

Come off it. You do know that originally it was listed as a 'Brexit' related manner and only later changed to make out that it was purely about a point of Parliamentary procedure?

And you are going to get your way. My prediction is that Johnson will now have to leave office, by way of a vote of confidence. Your beloved Parliament will then go straight for a second referendum rather than a GE with Remain on the ballot paper.

Turnout, on the back of a boycott, will be less than 50%, Remain will win by less than 17.4 million votes but with a significantly higher margin of victory than 52% which will be touted as the democratic comfort blanket you all so desperately crave. But that will have been made by the same fraud who clothed a certain Emperor. But we all see what we want to see, right?

What comes next, I am not sure. But one thing I can guarantee you is this. Brexit does not go away. It dominates any and everything.


And offers some future bright young thing a perfectly valid reason to tell 17.4 million people that they are perfectly justified in not bothering with the ballot box ever again.

Be so so careful in terms of what you wish for.

Edited by Matov (24 Sep 2019 11.17am)

Edited by Matov (24 Sep 2019 11.21am)

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 24 Sep 19 11.21am

Originally posted by Matov

Come off it. You do know that originally it was listed as a 'Brexit' related manner and only later changed to make out that it was purely about a point of Parliamentary procedure?

And you are going to get your way. My prediction is that Johnson will now have to leave office, by way of a vote of confidence. Your beloved Parliament will then go straight for a second referendum rather than a GE with Remain on the ballot paper.

Turnout, on the back of a boycott, will be less than 50%, Remain will win by less than 17.4 million votes but with a significantly higher margin of victory than 52% which will be touted as the democratic comfort blanket you all so desperately crave. But that will have been made by the same fraud who clothed a certain Emperor. But we all see what we want to see, right?

What comes next, I am not sure. But one thing I can guarantee you is this. Brexit does not go away. It dominates any and everything.


And offers some future bright young thing a perfectly valid reason to tell a country in which 17.4 million people that they are perfectly justified in not bothering with the ballot box ever again.

Be so so careful in terms of what you wish for.

Edited by Matov (24 Sep 2019 11.17am)

Nothing to do with brexit as the Judges repeatedly said.

You are tiresome and obsessed.

 

Lyons550 Flag Shirley 24 Sep 19 11.24am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Nothing to do with brexit as the Judges repeatedly said.

You are tiresome and obsessed.


Wow...Pot / Kettle

 


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Matov Flag 24 Sep 19 11.26am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Nothing to do with brexit as the Judges repeatedly said.

You are tiresome and obsessed.


LOL.

It was everything to do with Brexit. And you are winning. The Establishment have just handed you the key to undoing the result on June 23rd you have bleated and winged about.

Come on, at least enjoy your win. Relish the moment. Johnson has had his legs done good and proper and I genuinely now cannot see us leaving on October 31st, at least in a meaningful way.

Parliament clearly do not want a general election but they want Brexit thwarted so will go for a second referendum first. Claiming that it will resolve the matter and allow for a new Government to be chosen without having that blight hanging around their necks.

You have won this battle. Possibly the war but I suspect/hope that now moves on to a new phase.

Celebrate today. Your boys and girls in the silly wigs done well.

 


"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

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