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  Hrolf The Ganger  24 Sep 19 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
So how/why have others been able to do it?
Bend the rules? So you admit there are rules after all. Well done. The reason for this sudden change of attitude is votes. Governments in Europe are scared that their ridiculous adherence to Brussels' policy might just allow the Right to make big gains. The people have had enough.
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| Spiderman Horsham 24 Sep 19 6.55pm |
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Originally posted by Alex1991
How do you know this ? Surely if a trade deal was as important to Europe as you think it is then this deal would have done 3 years ago. Of course it is important to the EU. Have you considered that a deal has not been done because:
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| W12 24 Sep 19 7.11pm | |
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f*** everyone who doesn’t respect the vote to leave. f*** you and damn you to hell.
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| Matov 24 Sep 19 7.23pm |
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Originally posted by W12
Tell me why the f*** people like me should care any more about politeness, reasonableness or having a reasonable debate. What have we got to gain from this either than perhaps not being sent to prison?
I voted on June 23rd in absolute good faith that the result would be acted upon. And three and half years later we are here, with a Parliament and a Judiciary that is doing everything in its power to make a fool out of me for holding such beliefs on that day. Backed up by idiots who are trying to pull a three-card trick on me by way of seeing my vote deemed utterly worthless whilst trying to maintain their own self-illusion as the good guys in this s*** show. If you want the result on June 23rd ignored, you are a w***er of the highest order. As simple and straight forward as that.
Edited by Matov (24 Sep 2019 7.23pm)
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| JL85 London,SE9 24 Sep 19 7.26pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Of course it is important to the EU. Have you considered that a deal has not been done because: Hmmm, are you prepared to back this statement up with some facts? Happy to be proved wrong.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 Sep 19 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by JL85
Hmmm, are you prepared to back this statement up with some facts? Happy to be proved wrong. How do you know? It hasn't happened.
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| JL85 London,SE9 24 Sep 19 7.33pm |
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Originally posted by W12
f*** everyone who doesn’t respect the vote to leave. f*** you and damn you to hell. Excellent. I expect this refers to a remainers like me. What does "not respecting the vote" actually mean? If I campaign for Labour or the Lib Dem’s or Greens or even the Brexit Party in the run up to the next GE, am I not respecting the result of the last GE? How long does one have to wait until said result has been "respected"?
Cheers.
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| JL85 London,SE9 24 Sep 19 7.35pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
How do you know? It hasn't happened. *will be. *amongst those in the financial sector, the incumbent government and the EU. I guess there is some doubt. But perhaps it’s widely accepted? Or forecast? Cheers.
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| Spiderman Horsham 24 Sep 19 7.35pm |
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Originally posted by JL85
Excellent. I expect this refers to a remainers like me. What does "not respecting the vote" actually mean? If I campaign for Labour or the Lib Dem’s or Greens or even the Brexit Party in the run up to the next GE, am I not respecting the result of the last GE? How long does one have to wait until said result has been "respected"?
Cheers. Err when we have left
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| Hrolf The Ganger 24 Sep 19 7.36pm |
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Originally posted by JL85
Excellent. I expect this refers to a remainers like me. What does "not respecting the vote" actually mean? If I campaign for Labour or the Lib Dem’s or Greens or even the Brexit Party in the run up to the next GE, am I not respecting the result of the last GE? How long does one have to wait until said result has been "respected"?
Cheers. A laughably stupid analogy since the result of an election has to be honoured before campaigning can starts for the next one. A nice own goal.
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| Spiderman Horsham 24 Sep 19 7.37pm |
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Originally posted by JL85
Hmmm, are you prepared to back this statement up with some facts? Happy to be proved wrong. How much do we pay in? Can they afford to lose that?
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| JL85 London,SE9 24 Sep 19 7.37pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
A laughably stupid analogy since the result of an election has to be honoured before campaigning can starts for the next one. A nice own goal. So if I stick a poster in my window, will I get nicked? Lol.
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| JL85 London,SE9 24 Sep 19 7.37pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
How much do we pay in? Can they afford to lose that? Please expand.
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cryrst  The garden of England 24 Sep 19 7.42pm |
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Originally posted by Alex1991
Of course not, I knew it existed and copied the exact wording so you could read it. What part of this is not the whole truth ? The facts are right there in front of you and you are still denying it ? Freddie Starr has been eating my hamster.
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| .TUX. 24 Sep 19 7.43pm |
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Originally posted by JL85
Hmmm, are you prepared to back this statement up with some facts? Happy to be proved wrong. May help, may not..............
Buy Litecoin. |
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| DanH SW2 24 Sep 19 7.46pm |
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Originally posted by Matov
I voted on June 23rd in absolute good faith that the result would be acted upon. And three and half years later we are here, with a Parliament and a Judiciary that is doing everything in its power to make a fool out of me for holding such beliefs on that day. Backed up by idiots who are trying to pull a three-card trick on me by way of seeing my vote deemed utterly worthless whilst trying to maintain their own self-illusion as the good guys in this s*** show. If you want the result on June 23rd ignored, you are a w***er of the highest order. As simple and straight forward as that.
Edited by Matov (24 Sep 2019 7.23pm) I don’t want it ignored, I want it carried out in the least damaging way possible. This government have made a total clusterf*ck of it and where we are already has caused irreparable damage, wherever we end up now. I agree with you that it not being carried through represents a miscarriage of democracy; and I am loathe to be on politicians’ side, but the majority of the dissenters have been doing so because it’s what they think is in the country’s best long term interests. This decision today is because the government have acted illegally. We have a proud and historic judicial and parliamentary system which stops the government acting beyond the reach of the law. If the government are allowed to act above the law we are entering the realms of a dictatorship. The law is there for a reason. No one has yet addressed my earlier point about the prorogue of Parliament being given as not being about Brexit and to give the new PM time to establish policy before the Queen’s Speech. This whole entire reaction just proves the *unanimous* decision today was correct.
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Teddy Eagle  24 Sep 19 7.50pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
I don’t want it ignored, I want it carried out in the least damaging way possible. This government have made a total clusterf*ck of it and where we are already has caused irreparable damage, wherever we end up now. I agree with you that it not being carried through represents a miscarriage of democracy; and I am loathe to be on politicians’ side, but the majority of the dissenters have been doing so because it’s what they think is in the country’s best long term interests. This decision today is because the government have acted illegally. We have a proud and historic judicial and parliamentary system which stops the government acting beyond the reach of the law. If the government are allowed to act above the law we are entering the realms of a dictatorship. The law is there for a reason. No one has yet addressed my earlier point about the prorogue of Parliament being given as not being about Brexit and to give the new PM time to establish policy before the Queen’s Speech. This whole entire reaction just proves the *unanimous* decision today was correct. The government is accused of acting illegally despite the Attorney General telling them their action would be legal. Whose advice should they have taken if not his?
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| DanH SW2 24 Sep 19 7.53pm |
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Originally posted by Teddy Eagle
The government is accused of acting illegally despite the Attorney General telling them their action would be legal. Whose advice should they have taken if not his? His should be the first, of many, heads that should roll. Also, not ‘accused’ any more. They HAVE acted illegally, as ruled by the highest court in the country. Edited by DanH (24 Sep 2019 7.54pm)
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| cryrst The garden of England 24 Sep 19 7.55pm |
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Originally posted by DanH
I don’t want it ignored, I want it carried out in the least damaging way possible. This government have made a total clusterf*ck of it and where we are already has caused irreparable damage, wherever we end up now. I agree with you that it not being carried through represents a miscarriage of democracy; and I am loathe to be on politicians’ side, but the majority of the dissenters have been doing so because it’s what they think is in the country’s best long term interests. This decision today is because the government have acted illegally. We have a proud and historic judicial and parliamentary system which stops the government acting beyond the reach of the law. If the government are allowed to act above the law we are entering the realms of a dictatorship. The law is there for a reason. No one has yet addressed my earlier point about the prorogue of Parliament being given as not being about Brexit and to give the new PM time to establish policy before the Queen’s Speech. This whole entire reaction just proves the *unanimous* decision today was correct. And so what!
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