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 Spiderman  Horsham 16 Jan 19 1.53pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Surely that is what you remoaners are after - one democratic vote after another until you get the result that you want My thoughts exactly. Wasn't the referendum a democratic vote? I voted to leave, as did a majority, many are trying to reverse that decision....that is not democracy
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| Spiderman Horsham 16 Jan 19 1.57pm |
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Originally posted by Frickin Saweet
this is what worries me the most. I voted remain for quite personal reasons that my wife is from the EU and I couldn't endorse anything that makes it harder to see family across Europe or her to feel like a second-class citizen. But even with all that said, if the Govt reneges on democratic process it does far more damage than any short term economic uncertainty that leaving the EU causes. What would be the point in voting for anything again? Totally agree. I wouldn't worry FS your wife won't be considered as a 2nd class citizen and do you really think European countries will want to lose the UK tourist trade? I don't think so.
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 19 2.30pm |
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Originally posted by Cucking Funt
So 17.4 million people (52% of the turnout) is a "sizeable minority"? Edited by Cucking Funt (16 Jan 2019 1.04pm) That was in 2016 but it seems not to be the case now. The only way to find out would be to ask how people feel now, after all those "events". Not that I recommend another referendum, because I want Parliament to do it's duty and act upon it's own.
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 19 2.35pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
My thoughts exactly. Wasn't the referendum a democratic vote? I voted to leave, as did a majority, many are trying to reverse that decision....that is not democracy No the referendum was NOT a democratic vote because referendums have no legal status in UK democracy. The ONLY thing that gives them legitimacy is Parliamentary acceptance and what Parliament gives it can take away. My argument is that because of events Parliament can now see, even more clearly than in 2016, that leaving the EU would be a costly mistake for the UK. If they believe that then their duty is to act upon it.
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| Wisbech Eagle Online Truro Cornwall 16 Jan 19 2.41pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Surely that is what you remoaners are after - one democratic vote after another until you get the result that you want Not at all. I don't want another vote in which we throw our future to the winds of chance, political shenanigans, bad weather, or the influence of Russia or media barons. I want our elected representatives to do their job and, having as professionals studied all the implications, decide on our behalf. The world cannot be governed by barrack room lawyers.
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| Spiderman Horsham 16 Jan 19 2.45pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No the referendum was NOT a democratic vote because referendums have no legal status in UK democracy. The ONLY thing that gives them legitimacy is Parliamentary acceptance and what Parliament gives it can take away. My argument is that because of events Parliament can now see, even more clearly than in 2016, that leaving the EU would be a costly mistake for the UK. If they believe that then their duty is to act upon it.
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| Stirlingsays 16 Jan 19 2.48pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not at all. I don't want another vote in which we throw our future to the winds of chance, political shenanigans, bad weather, or the influence of Russia or media barons. I want our elected representatives to do their job and, having as professionals studied all the implications, decide on our behalf. The world cannot be governed by barrack room lawyers.
So we will be leaving in some form or other.
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| DANGERCLOSE london 16 Jan 19 2.49pm |
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T.M. will win the vote of confidence tonight. She goes back to EU with more demands. Corbyn is dreaming if he thinks he’ll be P.M.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 16 Jan 19 3.07pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not at all. I don't want another vote in which we throw our future to the winds of chance, political shenanigans, bad weather, or the influence of Russia or media barons. I want our elected representatives to do their job and, having as professionals studied all the implications, decide on our behalf. The world cannot be governed by barrack room lawyers. Me too, but our bunch of MPs invoked Article 50 against advice and without any idea of the future. You probably in your career have to sign off something as deliverable and be very careful about what you do. That doesn't apply to parliament. Less than 2 months to go and anything could happen.
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| Hrolf The Ganger 16 Jan 19 3.20pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
No the referendum was NOT a democratic vote because referendums have no legal status in UK democracy. The ONLY thing that gives them legitimacy is Parliamentary acceptance and what Parliament gives it can take away. My argument is that because of events Parliament can now see, even more clearly than in 2016, that leaving the EU would be a costly mistake for the UK. If they believe that then their duty is to act upon it.
In reality, agreeing on a referendum automatically placed the power of decision with the people. All that has happened since is that those who did not like the result have weaseled and plotted to overturn it.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 16 Jan 19 3.47pm |
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Actually good to see JC get on the front foot today. That feels more like a democracy. Doesn't have the numbers but the gammon are squirming in their privileged seats.
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 Cucking Funt Clapham on the Back 16 Jan 19 3.50pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
That was in 2016 but it seems not to be the case now. The only way to find out would be to ask how people feel now, after all those "events". Not that I recommend another referendum, because I want Parliament to do it's duty and act upon it's own. That's just a long-winded way of saying "it's not fair because I didn't win".
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