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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 May 22 5.38pm

Originally posted by W12

At the same time who is getting richer?

Edited by W12 (05 May 2022 11.49am)

The CONS !

 

Stirlingsays Flag 07 May 22 6.02pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

The CONS !

Wrong thread CP.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 07 May 22 6.03pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Wrong thread CP.

Cheers Stirling.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 07 May 22 6.05pm

LA....who infamously refused to prosecute rioters and criminals during Trump's presidency have decided to charge Dave Chappelle's armed attacker (knife..though he doesn't appear to have used it) with misdemeanors rather than with more serious felony charges.

Old Dave isn't happy and who can blame him.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 May 2022 6.07pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 May 22 10.21pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

All you have are slurs.

Whereas he made telling points you can't refute.

So telling that, having been out all day in the sunshine, I could not remember any of them, and I was certainly not planning to watch that slime ball more than once. But I did. There is nothing to "refute". He doesn't actually say anything! He is all drama. Fury for impact. Zero sincerity. It's just empty words spoken for effect to spoon-feed those with hate already in their hearts.

No-one with half a mind is fooled by people like him.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 07 May 22 10.29pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

When Project Veritas were handed Ashley Biden's diary and gave it to law enforcement, the FBI raided their offices and their journalist's homes and Veritas claimed they were spied on.

When Politico were handed a draft Supreme Court decision and published it.....nothing.

If anyone actually needed any proof for how the security systems have been corrupted it's right there.

Edited by Stirlingsays (07 May 2022 5.52pm)

How do you know this?

Or are you just assuming it, as there hasn't been any publicity?

The FBI will be investigating, of that I am 100% sure.

I am also sure they will be the ones to decide if, when and how their investigations will be made public.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 22 7.33am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

How do you know this?

Or are you just assuming it, as there hasn't been any publicity?

The FBI will be investigating, of that I am 100% sure.

I am also sure they will be the ones to decide if, when and how their investigations will be made public.


Because it hasn't happened.

If the FBI had raided Politico it would be all over the news as it was for Project Veritas.

You're just frantically looking for any excuse you can think of.....even utterly unrealistic ones.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 22 7.38am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

So telling that, having been out all day in the sunshine, I could not remember any of them, and I was certainly not planning to watch that slime ball more than once. But I did. There is nothing to "refute". He doesn't actually say anything! He is all drama. Fury for impact. Zero sincerity. It's just empty words spoken for effect to spoon-feed those with hate already in their hearts.

No-one with half a mind is fooled by people like him.


The guy who thinks comments on Hol can affect the war in the Ukraine thinks that others are easy fooled.

You couldn't make up half of Wisbech's posts if you even deliberately tried not to be credible.

So Tucker Carlson didn't say anything then.

So he wasn't highlighting the double standards that the left and Democrats have in America on who they regard as dangerous and 'extreme'. He didn't spend a whole segment highlighting rioting and criminality over 18 months, that the Democrats largely ignored and didn't prosecute, while they spent time talking about 'white supremacy'......you apparently didn't notice.....ok, sure.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 May 2022 7.54am)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 22 1.08pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Because it hasn't happened.

If the FBI had raided Politico it would be all over the news as it was for Project Veritas.

You're just frantically looking for any excuse you can think of.....even utterly unrealistic ones.

So that's a no, then.

The FBI can, and do, operate in complete secrecy if they deem it necessary. If they want publicity, then they will do it openly. They are pretty good at their job.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 22 1.22pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

So that's a no, then.

The FBI can, and do, operate in complete secrecy if they deem it necessary. If they want publicity, then they will do it openly. They are pretty good at their job.

What evidence do you have for that?

I think that once again, the position you take isn't credible. There are significant problems with political partisanship within the security services.....there is actually ample evidence for that.


Edited by Stirlingsays (08 May 2022 1.24pm)

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 22 1.26pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


The guy who thinks comments on Hol can affect the war in the Ukraine thinks that others are easy fooled.

You couldn't make up half of Wisbech's posts if you even deliberately tried not to be credible.

So Tucker Carlson didn't say anything then.

So he wasn't highlighting the double standards that the left and Democrats have in America on who they regard as dangerous and 'extreme'. He didn't spend a whole segment highlighting rioting and criminality over 18 months, that the Democrats largely ignored and didn't prosecute, while they spent time talking about 'white supremacy'......you apparently didn't notice.....ok, sure.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 May 2022 7.54am)

I certainly don't think comments from you are going to affect the war in Ukraine. I do think that the type of attitudes you display are inappropriate at this time and, whilst you are but one voice, you are unfortunately not alone. You are amplifying the noises generated by those "experts on everything" making self-righteous critical videos from their basements. It needs to be called out wherever it occurs. I just happen to share this space.

Tucker Carlson is one of the rabble rousers for those "experts on everything". Stirring up discontent, and widening division.

That you think he is "highlighting the double standards that the left and Democrats have in America on who they regard as dangerous and 'extreme' ", only confirms that. He did no such thing at all. He merely repeated tired old accusations which have suffered the fate of so many similar events. Repeat a lie often enough, to an audience willing to believe it, and it becomes a fact in their minds.

I said he said nothing. That's all he did.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 22 1.34pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I certainly don't think comments from you are going to affect the war in Ukraine. I do think that the type of attitudes you display are inappropriate at this time and, whilst you are but one voice, you are unfortunately not alone. You are amplifying the noises generated by those "experts on everything" making self-righteous critical videos from their basements. It needs to be called out wherever it occurs. I just happen to share this space.

Tucker Carlson is one of the rabble rousers for those "experts on everything". Stirring up discontent, and widening division.

That you think he is "highlighting the double standards that the left and Democrats have in America on who they regard as dangerous and 'extreme' ", only confirms that. He did no such thing at all. He merely repeated tired old accusations which have suffered the fate of so many similar events. Repeat a lie often enough, to an audience willing to believe it, and it becomes a fact in their minds.

I said he said nothing. That's all he did.


Liars certainly do create problems Mr ex Marketing manager.

Ok, tell me what Carlson said that wasn't true.....be specific.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 May 2022 1.35pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 22 7.34pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays


Liars certainly do create problems Mr ex Marketing manager.

Ok, tell me what Carlson said that wasn't true.....be specific.

Edited by Stirlingsays (08 May 2022 1.35pm)

I am not going to watch that diatribe again. It was all spurious, unsubstantiated claims and urban myths. So, all of it.

The basic premise was that the Democrats are a bunch of "lefty" no goods, not fit to hold office, who ignored criminal acts for their own reasons.

Do you really expect me to try and be specific about such general nonsense?

If you don't recognise that as just political mud being hurled at the fan, and blown towards the already biased, then I feel sorry for you. It's just a pot stirrer, designed to wind up the gullible. Nothing new or interesting. All old hat, boring and discredited.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 08 May 22 7.52pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I am not going to watch that diatribe again. It was all spurious, unsubstantiated claims and urban myths. So, all of it.

The basic premise was that the Democrats are a bunch of "lefty" no goods, not fit to hold office, who ignored criminal acts for their own reasons.

Do you really expect me to try and be specific about such general nonsense?

If you don't recognise that as just political mud being hurled at the fan, and blown towards the already biased, then I feel sorry for you. It's just a pot stirrer, designed to wind up the gullible. Nothing new or interesting. All old hat, boring and discredited.

So as expected.

You have nothing but slurs.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 May 22 9.28pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So as expected.

You have nothing but slurs.

Not at all.

I was just commenting, very accurately, on the slurs which Tucker Carlson made.

You cannot "slur" a slur. You can only point out it is one.

 


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OldFella Flag London 09 May 22 2.45pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Not at all.

I was just commenting, very accurately, on the slurs which Tucker Carlson made.

You cannot "slur" a slur. You can only point out it is one.

I've come to the carefully considered opinion that Wisbech Eagle is a parody account. It is the only plausible explanation.

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 09 May 22 3.56pm

Originally posted by OldFella

I've come to the carefully considered opinion that Wisbech Eagle is a parody account. It is the only plausible explanation.

If only, at least we would get some laughs.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 09 May 22 10.39pm

Originally posted by OldFella

I've come to the carefully considered opinion that Wisbech Eagle is a parody account. It is the only plausible explanation.

You need to consider again, because it isn't.

It's mine. I am real. A supporter for 68 years, who detests some attitudes displayed far too regularly here. I remember standing on the Holmesdale terrace for many seasons and being surrounded by happy people having a good time. Not a trace back then of the vitriol and abusive natures to be found here. There was banter, but never offence.

I call things as I see them. Disagree all you want to, but the opinions stated are real.

 


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Spiderman Flag Horsham 09 May 22 10.44pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

You need to consider again, because it isn't.

It's mine. I am real. A supporter for 68 years, who detests some attitudes displayed far too regularly here. I remember standing on the Holmesdale terrace for many seasons and being surrounded by happy people having a good time. Not a trace back then of the vitriol and abusive natures to be found here. There was banter, but never offence.

I call things as I see them. Disagree all you want to, but the opinions stated are real.

Go read the bbs, that is abusive towards fellow Palace fans who dare to have a different opinion to their majority. HOL pales into insignificance. Of course, the Brexit thread on there is right up your street

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 May 22 9.49am

Originally posted by Spiderman

Go read the bbs, that is abusive towards fellow Palace fans who dare to have a different opinion to their majority. HOL pales into insignificance. Of course, the Brexit thread on there is right up your street

Rarely even look at the BBS, as I don't like the format.

I don't doubt that there are abusive people there too. It seems endemic on social media these days. Whether it's better, or worse would depend, I suspect, which side of the debate you are on.

I have though read the Brexit thread there on occasions, but seeking confirmation of my own views is not something that interests me. I left the comfort blankets in my pram 75 years ago.

 


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