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 cryrst  The garden of England 17 Oct 19 6.00am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I would be very, very surprised if they did vote for it without taking a long hard look at it first and I just don't think they have the time. I continue to believe this is all part of an election strategy and that this "deal" would be the basis of Johnson's Brexit manifesto. This is Johnson about to don his martyr clothing. "Look folks, I tried, I really tried, but those difficult MPs failed you yet again. So now we will have to ask you to back us at a GE. Give us the mandate. Give us a majority and we will GET BREXIT DONE" I can even see red baseball caps being manufactured in China right now, emblazoned with GBD. Electioneering is a wonderful thing if you know how to do it.
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DanH  SW2 17 Oct 19 7.31am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
How amateurish did May's negotiating look now!! Boris is coming back with May’s deal but worse. Still, he’ll tub thump like it’s a ‘victory’ because we’re ‘out’ and you’ll lap it up. Edited by DanH (17 Oct 2019 7.32am)
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| Matov 17 Oct 19 7.58am |
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Originally posted by DanH
Boris is coming back with May’s deal but worse. Still, he’ll tub thump like it’s a ‘victory’ because we’re ‘out’ and you’ll lap it up. Edited by DanH (17 Oct 2019 7.32am) Reserving judgement till the details but I am fearing the worst. Still miles to go with this.
"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell. |
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 Oct 19 8.04am |
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Sounds like the deal will fail so will Boris now keep his word whilst sticking to the Benn act, I hope so.
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| DanH SW2 17 Oct 19 8.10am |
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Originally posted by Matov
Reserving judgement till the details but I am fearing the worst. Still miles to go with this. I wish every Brexiteer was similarly inclined about details.
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palace_in_frogland  In a broken dream 17 Oct 19 8.44am |
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Originally posted by johnno42000
Will the fish know about the border in the sea? If it's a type of fish that the EU allows to be fished and we say no as it is in danger will the fish do a fish type of runner to the safe water? Will we allow fish to lounge about all day, eating our sea life? For Cod'sHake won't someone think of the fish? I’ve just red your post, but now I need time to mullet over.
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| steeleye20 Croydon 17 Oct 19 9.02am |
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Cod cannot be accused of disrespecting the referendum result. They left immediately, haked off to some other plaice. All that's left are red mullet 'remoaners'.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 Oct 19 9.07am |
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Bl**dy foreign fish come over here swimming in our waters eating our plankton send em back home I say.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Oct 19 9.50am |
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Originally posted by cryrst
Electioneering is a wonderful thing if you know how to do it. "Electioneering" is what got us into this mess in the first place. Making promises you know you cannot deliver (aka lying), appealing to the worst sentiments of the narrow minded, and encouraging divisions might win elections but is it really showing leadership and the best way to develop a society?
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| Midlands Eagle 17 Oct 19 9.55am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
"Electioneering" is what got us into this mess in the first place. Making promises you know you cannot deliver (aka lying), appealing to the worst sentiments of the narrow minded, and encouraging divisions might win elections but is it really showing leadership and the best way to develop a society? I don't know but why not ask George Osborne as he was one of the worst culprits
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Teddy Eagle  17 Oct 19 9.56am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
"Electioneering" is what got us into this mess in the first place. Making promises you know you cannot deliver (aka lying), appealing to the worst sentiments of the narrow minded, and encouraging divisions might win elections but is it really showing leadership and the best way to develop a society? Maybe not but an election campaign of “Oh, go on. Let us have a go” isn’t going to win much.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 Oct 19 9.58am |
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Labour has announced they will vote for a 2nd referendum which of course would mean a lengthy extension. I can see the public loving that
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| W12 17 Oct 19 10.05am | |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
"Electioneering" is what got us into this mess in the first place. Making promises you know you cannot deliver (aka lying), appealing to the worst sentiments of the narrow minded, and encouraging divisions might win elections but is it really showing leadership and the best way to develop a society? Go and look up the rise of the spiteful mutants on YouTube and you might learn something about yourself Edited by Midlands Eagle (17 Oct 2019 10.32am)
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Oct 19 10.32am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I don't know but why not ask George Osborne as he was one of the worst culprits I can think of many current politicians who are much worse. In the minds of "leave" voters Osborne's primary "sin" it seems was making predictions about the consequences of a leave vote succeeding. Consequences which haven't materialise. Yet. He was being political but there was more truth underlying what he suggested than in many other statements made at that time.
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| Midlands Eagle 17 Oct 19 10.34am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Not so. He said that the economy would collapse immediately if the result of the referendum was "leave" and that he would have to hold an emergency budget
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Oct 19 10.40am |
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Originally posted by W12
Go and look up the rise of the spiteful mutants on YouTube and you might learn something about yourself Edited by Midlands Eagle (17 Oct 2019 10.32am) Populism is designed to appeal to those who see things in simple black and white terms. Or in other words "narrow minded". Whilst currently most populist regimes are from the right they can just as easily come from the left.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 17 Oct 19 10.44am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
How amateurish did May's negotiating look now!!
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Oct 19 10.44am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Not so. He said that the economy would collapse immediately if the result of the referendum was "leave" and that he would have to hold an emergency budget I know, and it didn't happen as he predicted, but the signs are there that the underlying truth of the prediction will become apparent, if we have a hard Brexit.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 17 Oct 19 10.56am |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I know, and it didn't happen as he predicted, but the signs are there that the underlying truth of the prediction will become apparent, if we have a hard Brexit. The blokes who go around with a Sandwich board saying the end of the world is nigh. One day, hopefully thousands of years from now, they will be right. In the meantime most people are looking at the here and now and the politicians and the economists can't even get that right.
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