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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 31 Jan 19 7.22am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

Tony Blair: The backstop isn't the only flaw in the PM's Brexit deal. She's effectively saying 'Let's get on the train but we don't know the destination. We'll work it out after leaving'.

We were always promised we'd know the future relationship with the EU before leaving.

But we don't, a few weeks before some type of exit, we just don't have a clue.

It's like moving house, but not knowing where your new address is.

Nobody would do that, but leave would.

So would the conservative party, parliament, the media, and there is no figure to step in and make us see sense.

Leaving the EU was never going to be easy and there was never a precise way to do it but leave we must. Not everything in life is about money nore is it for the short term.

I think remainers are the true gammons with their constant wining!

"Oh it was only an advisory vote"
They should be ashamed of them selves.


Edited by dannyboy1978 (31 Jan 2019 7.23am)

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 31 Jan 19 7.43am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Leaving the EU was never going to be easy and there was never a precise way to do it but leave we must. Not everything in life is about money nore is it for the short term.

I think remainers are the true gammons with their constant wining!

"Oh it was only an advisory vote"
They should be ashamed of them selves.


Edited by dannyboy1978 (31 Jan 2019 7.23am)

And in both manifestos, EU Referendum Act voted for by Parliament 544 - 53.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 31 Jan 19 7.49am

Originally posted by cryrst

A while ago on lbc someone from abroad had they said 5k of treatment.
Whearby they offered to pay there and then and were told they couldnt and needed to be invoiced at their home address wherever that was.
Every hospital must have an accounts dept.
The mind boggles and a bit of blue sky thinking is needed.
I reckon a majority of patients from abroad would gladly pay for their treatment if they could but cant because of administration.

You kinda hit the nail on the head there

It's not the fault of foreigners or the EU but our own system and incompetence

That's Brexit in a nutshell, get people to blame foreign people and the EU for our own failings and they can get away with it

Just a shame so many people bought it

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 31 Jan 19 7.54am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

You kinda hit the nail on the head there

It's not the fault of foreigners or the EU but our own system and incompetence

That's Brexit in a nutshell, get people to blame foreign people and the EU for our own failings and they can get away with it

Just a shame so many people bought it

What do you mean by "blame foreign people"
Have you an instance of this?

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 31 Jan 19 8.03am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Leaving the EU was never going to be easy and there was never a precise way to do it but leave we must. Not everything in life is about money nore is it for the short term.

I think remainers are the true gammons with their constant wining!

"Oh it was only an advisory vote"
They should be ashamed of them selves.


Edited by dannyboy1978 (31 Jan 2019 7.23am)

It kind of is about money

If we want to be successful and prosper outside of the EU it will depend on growing our economy

We want to improve our way of life and standard of living, again, that would be built on growth and a strong economy

Who said they wanted to leave the EU and be poorer?

 


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Originally posted by Pussay Patrol


You kinda hit the nail on the head there

It's not the fault of foreigners or the EU but our own system and incompetence

That's Brexit in a nutshell, get people to blame foreign people and the EU for our own failings and they can get away with it

Just a shame so many people bought it

It's a greater shame that 51.9% of the voters were gullible fools and clearly not as intelligent as you

 

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 31 Jan 19 8.31am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

It's a greater shame that 51.9% of the voters were gullible fools and clearly not as intelligent as you

Greater London, Northern Ireland and Scotland all were remain, the other nine regions voted leave, East and West Midlands were both plus 18%, Yorkshire & Humber and North East were both plus 16%, so highly regional.

 

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 31 Jan 19 8.56am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by becky


Were we?

Yes by Mrs May, video clips of her explaining to the EU that is precisely what she had to do.

Usual May nonsense.

They must be wondering if any 'deal' with her would mean anything in reality.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 31 Jan 19 9.42am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by davenotamonkey

It's also deeply ironic, given the wonderful self-amending treaties his piece of s*** party signed us up to.

'Let's get on the train but we don't know the destination. We'll work it out after leaving'

So, Remainers. What's the destination for the EU train you wanted us on?

Is it the "Clegg Dangerous Fantasy" station?
Cameron's "non-existent reforming deal" station?
The Schuman-model station?
The hardcore leftist station (choo choo!)?
The Spinelli station with that raving ranting Verhoft*** as the Fat Controller?
The "remain but don't even bother reforming, because they don't listen, but I'm fine being a non-country" station?
The soft-remain "oh, they would never force us to adopt the euro, drop the rebate, join their army, despite all efforts to federalise and assimilate at breakneck speed" station?

What station did all the Remainiacs on here vote to pull into, and why do you think you own the tracks that decide the route of the train, once you've agreed to board? When were you ever asked what your destination was?

One thing is sure - with a Remain vote - there IS no "work it out after remaining". As Herr Juncker tells us: "there can be no democratic choice against the European (sic) treaties." It is always "more Europe". You just don't get to choose what that means.

Thank f*** we pulled the emergency stop in time to get off. I'll take the car thanks. It's not stuck on rails to a destination I have no choice and no interest in.

Good point. What does Remain mean?

- To some it's the status quo. Well the EU has already said it it progressing with it plans for further integration. This makes no sense we will continue to be the anchor that drags along slowing the EU ship of state down.
- To some it's to be right at the forefront of an EU superstate. At least that's a POV I can understand, get on board and shape the EU with France and Germany.
- And to some they voted to Remain out of fear of the unknown, again I get that "bird in the hand et al".

What ever happens in the next few months Remain politicians will need to spell out to the public what Remain means if they want to gather support of the undecided.

 


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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 31 Jan 19 10.10am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Pussay Patrol

It kind of is about money

If we want to be successful and prosper outside of the EU it will depend on growing our economy

We want to improve our way of life and standard of living, again, that would be built on growth and a strong economy

Who said they wanted to leave the EU and be poorer?

Who said they wanted freedom of movement
Who said they wanted mass immigration
Who wanted cultural change in cities

NO ONE. It was thrust on us without asking and people who will swallow some hardship. They always knew it wouldn't be easy so yes I did vote to be poorer in the short term for long term gain. I am not a buisness caring about 2019 profits for share holders I'm caring about my country and the way my community is.

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 31 Jan 19 10.25am

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Who said they wanted freedom of movement
Who said they wanted mass immigration
Who wanted cultural change in cities

NO ONE. It was thrust on us without asking and people who will swallow some hardship. They always knew it wouldn't be easy so yes I did vote to be poorer in the short term for long term gain. I am not a buisness caring about 2019 profits for share holders I'm caring about my country and the way my community is.

Wrong, not everyone thinks that way

Most people think immigration is a good thing and has a huge benefit

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 31 Jan 19 10.27am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

So the labour leave constituencies, probably who will be taking the biggest hit from brexit, now receiving special attention from Mrs May.

Arise Sir Dennis Skinner 'The beast of Bolsover' knighted for services to the tories.

Well Dennis do you know, we could really help you keep that coal-mine open if you see what we mean.....

 

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