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 topcat  Holmesdale / Surbiton 17 Oct 19 5.19pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
My view is that I do not think it will get through. If this is the case a GE should be called immediately but Labour do not appear to be up for the fight. We shall see but I think it probably will. Politicians must understand that the population are bored of the whole process now and just want it over. It's a Brexit of sorts although certainly not the hard one that many wanted. It's not a good deal but perhaps the best one that the EU would give us.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 17 Oct 19 5.22pm |
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Originally posted by topcat
We shall see but I think it probably will. Politicians must understand that the population are bored of the whole process now and just want it over. It's a Brexit of sorts although certainly not the hard one that many wanted. It's not a good deal but perhaps the best one that the EU would give us. Tend to agree
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| DANGERCLOSE London 17 Oct 19 5.23pm |
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Oct 19 5.40pm |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I don't like your truth. Your assumption that 'populist' is wrong by definition is plain daft. Populism is a word adopted by the Left to belittle opposing opinion and nothing more. It has replaced the ever increasingly incredible terms related to racism and the Right wing. There isn't my truth or your truth. There is just truth. "Populist" is a term applied to both left and right leaning politicians by observers whose own political views are also mixed. It isn't "wrong by definition". It just is. It is a style of politics which has become more apparent in recent years which, in my view, is an unhealthy development driven by the ability of certain politicians to use modern media to reach the people directly without the filter of objective analysis by informed observers. Thus facts become distorted and lies become truths.
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| W12 17 Oct 19 5.42pm | |
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Originally posted by DANGERCLOSE
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Oct 19 5.45pm |
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Originally posted by susmik
Lower deck lawyers I have sh1t them!! I have no need to comment any more or desire to drag this kind of nonsense out when there are much more important things happening. If you want to continue to make an idiot of yourself then do it alone. I won't help you as you are more than capable of doing that on your own.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Oct 19 5.54pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
Jean-Claude Juncker rules out an extension which means that it's either Boris's deal or no deal so f*** you remainers if you'll pardon my French It's not up to Juncker! Johnson was apparently angling to get the EU to rule out an extension in the wording of their agreement but that seems not to have happened. I doubt very much whether they will express a view on this until after the UK Parliament has decided. Although I acknowledge it would only take one member to veto it and it's all over.
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| W12 17 Oct 19 6.02pm | |
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Labour, LibDems, SNP and DUP oppose this deal (and probably a few Tories). There is no way this is going through. Cannot see this not being extended with more bollox ensuing.
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| Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 17 Oct 19 6.04pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
As a matter of interest does anyone know how many Remain supporters on this thread were adamant that Boris had no intention of trying to get a deal? I am still sceptical that Cummings may have set this up to fail and that he is expecting that the result will be a refusal by the EU to extend, thus forcing a "no deal" exit on the 31st.
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 georgenorman 17 Oct 19 6.25pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I am still sceptical that Cummings may have set this up to fail and that he is expecting that the result will be a refusal by the EU to extend, thus forcing a "no deal" exit on the 31st. We live in hope!
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| Spiderman Horsham 17 Oct 19 6.42pm |
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Originally posted by georgenorman
We live in hope!
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Maybe BJ is not such a buffoon that some seem to think| Spiderman Horsham 17 Oct 19 6.43pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have no need to comment any more or desire to drag this kind of nonsense out when there are much more important things happening. If you want to continue to make an idiot of yourself then do it alone. I won't help you as you are more than capable of doing that on your own. Someone else getting touchy?
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| Spiderman Horsham 17 Oct 19 6.43pm |
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Originally posted by W12
Labour, LibDems, SNP and DUP oppose this deal (and probably a few Tories). There is no way this is going through. Cannot see this not being extended with more bollox ensuing. Agreed
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| SW19 CPFC Addiscombe West 17 Oct 19 7.02pm |
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Originally posted by Spiderman
Getting touchy? Haha Nope. Just reminding others to read and use whatever small amount of intellect available to make sure they’re not jumping the gun I agree with W12 - as much as I’d like it to go through, as someone who wanted a deal, this will not get through Parliament. However - contrary to most Brexiters on here who seem to have completely forgotten how many false dawns they have had, no-deal exit on the 31st by default is far from certain. If you do some reading you’ll understand why. Just keeps rollin on
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| Invalid user 2019 17 Oct 19 7.13pm |
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Originally posted by W12
Labour, LibDems, SNP and DUP oppose this deal (and probably a few Tories). There is no way this is going through. Cannot see this not being extended with more bollox ensuing. There's definitely plenty of opposition. I do wonder if brexit debate fatigue will set in though, and it might just get over the line. I always figured that the potential solution would be one that nobody was entirely over the moon about, and that seems to sum this up.
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cryrst  The garden of England 17 Oct 19 7.14pm |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
Johnson lost yet another vote in the HOC today meaning that MPs will have longer on Saturday to debate and also propose amendments. That could actually be quite significant, maybe allowing Benn to kick in. But why are they voting on this so soon, surely the 'deal' will be a complicated international treaty, how will they have sufficient knowledge to decide within only 2 days? 65 pages on the net.
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| Invalid user 2019 17 Oct 19 7.15pm |
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Not that I'm saying it will have enough support. Just that the clock is ticking down and so a few more than expected might decide to stick rather than twist!
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| susmik PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 17 Oct 19 7.15pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
I have no need to comment any more or desire to drag this kind of nonsense out when there are much more important things happening. If you want to continue to make an idiot of yourself then do it alone. I won't help you as you are more than capable of doing that on your own. As I said "Lower deck lawyers I've sh1t them !!!
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| Spiderman Horsham 17 Oct 19 7.16pm |
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Originally posted by SW19 CPFC
Haha Nope. Just reminding others to read and use whatever small amount of intellect available to make sure they’re not jumping the gun I agree with W12 - as much as I’d like it to go through, as someone who wanted a deal, this will not get through Parliament. However - contrary to most Brexiters on here who seem to have completely forgotten how many false dawns they have had, no-deal exit on the 31st by default is far from certain. If you do some reading you’ll understand why. Just keeps rollin on Here we go again
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