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 EverybodyDannsNow  SE19 22 Oct 19 10.43am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
We live in interesting times as some one once said. I voted remain and then think this deal is about the best outcome - it is funny watching people who were adamant it had to be no deal 3 months ago now happy to swallow this, all in the name of believing they won something.
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 Hrolf The Ganger 22 Oct 19 10.47am |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
The same people who clung onto Farage’s every word prior don’t want to hear it anymore, as it stops them claiming they ‘won’ Brexit now - quite funny really. Remarkable and purposeful niavety.
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| Midlands Eagle 22 Oct 19 10.55am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
So your saying somone with life experience who may have voted in the 1970's referendum and has a wider view of life is less likely to vote correctly in the UK'S interest than teens? I think that what Wissy is trying to say is that once you get to 70 your faculties have diminished considerably so you probably don't have the mental faculties to understand the issues so it would be a kindness to the rest of the nation if one was barred from voting once you reach that age
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Oct 19 11.16am |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
I think that what Wissy is trying to say is that once you get to 70 your faculties have diminished considerably so you probably don't have the mental faculties to understand the issues so it would be a kindness to the rest of the nation if one was barred from voting once you reach that age According to the profile of 'Wisbech Eagle' he was born in 1944 which makes him somewhat 'north' of 70. Perhaps there should be an age limit on HOL so that those in their 70s cannot spout errant hogwash due to diminished faculties ! I have NOT quite reached that age but I suspect many will have concluded that my spouting enters this category ! A rare interjection by 'Yours Truly' on this thread! Brexit and politics consumes a considerable part of my life outside of HOL so I have a proclivity to give the 'News and politics' threads a wide berth. Willo the Spartan! Edited by Willo (22 Oct 2019 11.18am)
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| Badger11 Beckenham 22 Oct 19 11.18am |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I voted remain and then think this deal is about the best outcome - it is funny watching people who were adamant it had to be no deal 3 months ago now happy to swallow this, all in the name of believing they won something. I was never adamant about a no deal I just don't like this deal which is May's with a Boris twist. My preference was always for a simple free trade deal and maybe in the future we will end up there but as of today I don't know what the outcome will be. Remainers have fought a very effective insurgency whilst the government has lurched from one crisis to the next. Parliament has wasted 3 years rejecting ever possible outcome and the so called Government of National Unity led by Corbyn has quietly disappeared because the opposition whilst opposing Brexit are just as divided about the solution. And whilst the Remainers have been very effective it is still possible that they will over play their hand and we end up with a no deal Brexit. Still all to play for.
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| dannyboy1978 22 Oct 19 11.19am |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I voted remain and then think this deal is about the best outcome - it is funny watching people who were adamant it had to be no deal 3 months ago now happy to swallow this, all in the name of believing they won something. I thought you remoaners were all for people changing their mind,
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| chris123 hove actually 22 Oct 19 11.31am |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
I thought you remoaners were all for people changing their mind, You seem to have trouble telling one from the other this morning.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Oct 19 11.37am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I was never adamant about a no deal I just don't like this deal which is May's with a Boris twist. My preference was always for a simple free trade deal and maybe in the future we will end up there but as of today I don't know what the outcome will be. Remainers have fought a very effective insurgency whilst the government has lurched from one crisis to the next. Parliament has wasted 3 years rejecting ever possible outcome and the so called Government of National Unity led by Corbyn has quietly disappeared because the opposition whilst opposing Brexit are just as divided about the solution. And whilst the Remainers have been very effective it is still possible that they will over play their hand and we end up with a no deal Brexit. Still all to play for. MPs have taken us for total idiots and have insulted our intelligence.They have hidden behind procedural devices and played party politics in order to thwart Brexit. These MPs spout on about "Honouring the result of the referendum" but they refuse to implement the referendum result,furthermore they refuse to let the electorate vote in a General Election.Labour have consistently called for a GE yet when challenged by the PM for one they back off.Remainers demand a 'Peoples vote" whilst they continue to try and overturn the 2016 'Peoples vote'.The Lib Dems unashamedly wish to ignore the votes of 17.4 million in the 2016 referendum. Remainers/Labour etc etc been totally disingenuous in terms of the arguments they have advanced in relation to the agreed deal.At the end of the day all they want is to prevent Brexit and to prevent a Conservative agreed deal from being passed.Lbour,SNP etc etc will not vote for ANY deal for party political purposes. I shall leave it here.Got to consider my blood pressure!
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| dannyboy1978 22 Oct 19 11.44am |
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Originally posted by chris123
You seem to have trouble telling one from the other this morning. Lost argument so you change subject. Next please.
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| dannyboy1978 22 Oct 19 11.58am |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Corbyn Comedy Gold. JC raised a urgent question in the house. Why hasn't the the withdrawal bill been published so MPs can review it? Stephen Barclay replied that publication of the bill had been delayed by the Parliamentarian authorities due to an urgent question being raised in the house by one JC asking when will the bill be published? I think even Speaker Bercow find that one funny. Sometimes politicians don't know when to shut up.
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| Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 22 Oct 19 12.02pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
Corbyn Comedy Gold. JC raised a urgent question in the house. Why hasn't the the withdrawal bill been published so MPs can review it? Stephen Barclay replied that publication of the bill had been delayed by the Parliamentarian authorities due to an urgent question being raised in the house by one JC asking when will the bill be published? I think even Speaker Bercow find that one funny. Sometimes politicians don't know when to shut up.
Corbyn has 'Form' making himself look a chump. In terms of his question about reviewing the bill, will he actually bother to read it in detail and dissect it ? At the end of the day Labour's position is to oppose the bill no matter what is in it. All this mess is the direct result of a hung parliament.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 22 Oct 19 12.08pm |
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Originally posted by Willo
Corbyn has 'Form' making himself look a chump. In terms of his question about reviewing the bill, will he actually bother to read it in detail and dissect it ? At the end of the day Labour's position is to oppose the bill no matter what is in it. All this mess is the direct result of a hung parliament. A sensible person would have called Barclay direct and just asked. If JC was unhappy with the response then raise an urgent question in the house. By raising an urgent question he fell foul of the protocols I assume there is something that says don't publish a bill until an urgent question has been asked and answered. Whilst I found it funny it yet again demonstrates that our MPs are too busy point scoring rather than doing their job. Sir sir "Barclay minor" hasn't done his homework.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 22 Oct 19 12.11pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
I got it on Whatsapp but try this.
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| EverybodyDannsNow SE19 22 Oct 19 12.31pm |
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Originally posted by Badger11
I was never adamant about a no deal I just don't like this deal which is May's with a Boris twist. My preference was always for a simple free trade deal and maybe in the future we will end up there but as of today I don't know what the outcome will be. Remainers have fought a very effective insurgency whilst the government has lurched from one crisis to the next. Parliament has wasted 3 years rejecting ever possible outcome and the so called Government of National Unity led by Corbyn has quietly disappeared because the opposition whilst opposing Brexit are just as divided about the solution. And whilst the Remainers have been very effective it is still possible that they will over play their hand and we end up with a no deal Brexit. Still all to play for. I should have made clear that wasn’t a dig at you specifically - I have found your contributions to this thread consistently interesting and logical.
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| Badger11 Beckenham 22 Oct 19 12.41pm |
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Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow
I should have made clear that wasn’t a dig at you specifically - I have found your contributions to this thread consistently interesting and logical. Thanks and I wasn't offended because you are correct some of us have found ourselves in odd positions mainly through frustration. I suspect that if I collated all my posts on here and compared their logic I would find myself wanting.
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| chris123 hove actually 22 Oct 19 12.49pm |
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Originally posted by dannyboy1978
Lost argument so you change subject. Next please. I'm trying to engage, but this, like your previous post to something I'd written earlier today really doesn't make any sense that I can figure.
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| robdave2k 22 Oct 19 1.44pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
When we need a good belly laugh we only have to remind each other some of the reasons why people think it's a good idea to leave the EU! Last Christmas we improvised a Two Ronnies sketch with two leavers in a pub doing just that. The opportunities for humour that you all provide is endless. Have you not watched the Mash report? Don’t worry I believe you.
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| Midlands Eagle 22 Oct 19 2.40pm |
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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
When we need a good belly laugh we only have to remind each other some of the reasons why people think it's a good idea to leave the EU! Last Christmas we improvised a Two Ronnies sketch with two leavers in a pub doing just that. The opportunities for humour that you all provide is endless. Wow. You and your family must be an absolute bundle of laughs and I'm sure that your neighbours make sure that you are top of their list for invites to their New Years Eve parties
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