Mind you when I was over there with palace pre season..jesus its was expensive...16.50 pounds for a maccy d,s

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

I get that,but why would it lead to that if Ulster had our withdrawal plan.
And why are we bowing to terrorism.

always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

You aren't of course being serious. Age brings experience and wisdom, or at least it should.

All I have argued for is to use that in the interests of those who will be affected most by any changes/

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I had a German friend a long time ago who argued that democracy was too precious to be left to the people.

He seriously argued that there ought to be thresholds other than just a minimum age which you needed to pass before you were allowed a vote. His primary one was an intelligence test of some kind, although how he thought that would be administered was never made clear.

Of course I didn't agree but I bet his views have hardened after the Brexit fiasco.

By the way, that's not what I am saying, as you very well know! All I saying is that everyone needs to think of the impact on future generations and not just their own. If you do, then fine.

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I understand the point that he was trying to make. When the BBC are discussing Brexit or indeed any other serious matter they take to the streets for a bit of vox pop and seem to deliberately pick out the most stupid people that they can find who can barely string a couple of sentences together yet have the same voting rights as the brain of britain

What spurious nonsense. And perhaps the most dangerous idea of them all. We either have universal adult sufferage or else dictatorship. A benevolent dictatorship is probably the most effective of all forms of Governance (my wife for example speaks most highly of Yugoslavia under Tito) but democracy can only work if it has the highest possible of adult involvement.

And why I become so enraged about people wishing to dismiss the results of June 23rd. I appreciate I am a broken record on it but the facts speak for themselves. A huge turnout, each vote equally weighted, a simple question and a definite result. 52 beats 48 every time.

Why on earth would anybody want to f*** with that? To undermine the validity of what happened on that day? You don't like the result, that I get, tell us that it was advisory only and that Parliament has within its power to ignore it completely, again a valid point.

But to want us to effectively re-run it the losing option given a second chance? Utterly undermining the most core principles of the democratic process. Effectively telling 17.4 million voters that your votes were not deemed sufficient despite all the promises and pledges beforehand.

Desire Parliament to revoke A50, that I get. I might vehemently disagree but it is within the boundaries of how democracy works in the UK. But another referendum when the first has not been acted upon? Beyond ludicrous. Myopic stupidity to the 'nth degree.

People do not have to justify why they vote the way they do. If they tossed a coin, that is perfectly acceptable.

Your German friend needs to take a long hard look in the mirror and reflect back on his nation's history.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

That’s all very well but who decides what those interests are? And just out of interest, how do they know?

Even though I admire the way Bercow has handled all of this I wouldn't want to be him. I am quite happy being me!

The question now is whether the MPs will vote to approve the timetable and then try to talk it out beyond the deadline, or even if they are able to do that. If they aren't then I think it will be killed tonight and a GE called before the end of this week. I just cannot see this Parliament voting through this deal as it stands.

There is no doubt that locally people are gearing up for a GE when the very question of any kind of Brexit is back on the table. Only today I received two pieces of electioneering literature to exactly that effect. One from the LibDems, who are by far the most active so far, and one from "cornwallforeurope" who are a new organisation to me. The LibDem one was predictable but well done but the other did not support anyone. It was 100% "stop Brexit", was very professionally done and contained some new and powerful arguments. This is all 10 x better than the "remain" campaign was in 2016 and will make a big difference.

Are others getting these kind of things yet or is this unique to around here?

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Everyone has to decide that for themselves.

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