Well quite.

Of all the spurious nonsense written by R2's, it is this one that is the most dangerous. That somehow how Leaves margin of victory was not enough. LOL.

And why they are SO dangerous. Because if they get their way and we do not leave the EU, invalidating the result of the 2016 election, then a huge blow is inflicted on people's faith in our system. And not just on the 17.4 million. I know plenty of people who voted Remain in 2016 who believe the result should be implemented because they grasp the basic concept of how democracy works in terms of deciding elections. Along with sowing the seeds of perhaps the most dangerous and unpredictable political direction of English nationalism. Because after all, England voted to leave the EU. I think outside of London then every English region voted Leave (happy to be corrected on that btw).

Leaving the door open for people to emerge and able to make the claim, with justification, that voting changes nothing. That other action is required.

52 beats 48. There is no fudging that or claiming it as being to close to call. Leave won by a clear margin. No recounts, no claims that the votes were not, on the whole, fairly cast or counted. A straight forward majority.

And to try and dismiss that is beyond foolish.

so you are saying that you vote for the personality rather than the party at a GE? Really? I was under the impression that you vote for the party you support. When I voted, it was for the person representing the party, not because he /she was a jolly good chap..

Fair play, I’ve never seen someone more committed to a s*** joke - geezer must’ve referred to taking medication at least 20 times by now.

It’s like in school when you discover ‘your mum’ - rinse and repeat.

I understand the argument that those who think if MPs change parties they ought to resign and that it is a widely held opinion. My view, which is I think shared by most MPs, is if it ever became mandatory, or even habitual, for an MP to do so then the whole basis of our Parliamentary democracy would change.

It's not surprising that most MPs would be against having to resign if they changed parties mid term just as it isn't surprising that turkeys would prefer to scrap Christmas celebrations.

Parliament is supposed to act in the best interests of the people and not the best interests of themselves and if the people want a by election to be held if an MP switches parties then that is what should happen.

Let's have a referendum on it

Further to Johnsons briefing differently than his own minister on Northern Ireland.

Now cancelled meeting the an important select committee for the third time.

There were doubts about exactly how familiar Johnson was with the customs rules that he was attempting to rush through Parliament.

Doesn't know his own deal, does he?

That makes as much sense as the poll tax.

The thing stopping you leaving is the complete discourse on how to leave, which is even rife on the leave side, and you know it.

Hence a second referendum is required.

But you don't vote in a Tory, Labour or Liberal do you? You vote in a person to represent you, not a voting machine centrally operated from party headquarters.

Who would you say was the greatest Parliamentarian? I would suggest that Winston Churchill would top many lists. Churchill changed party not just once, but twice because of his principles. Would you have wanted him to have to stand down?

I don't want another referendum at all. I don't want any more referendums ever again. I want Parliament to decide. If this one can't then we ask a new one to try. Why don't you stand and then see if you can do any better?

Perhaps the tories were absent in order to read Johnson's agreement for first time, despite already having voted for it.

If his deal had been to remain they wouldn't have even realised it.

Actually parts of it are...