Bias against Trump
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 Stirlingsays  01 Aug 17 11.35pm |
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Originally posted by Jimenez
One person who certainly has a bias against Trump is JK Rowling. Found to be completely wrong about him when a video emerged and went viral. She's had the decency to apologise to the boy and family, but not Trump himself so deep is her hatred. She isn't a fair minded person at all. She's an example of where the opposition to Trump get it wrong.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 02 Aug 17 9.57am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
She isn't a fair minded person at all. She's an example of where the opposition to Trump get it wrong. I fail to understand why people take the opinions of unqualified celebrities so seriously (both left or right wing). I suspect its lazy f**king journalism and the fact that people are sheep who like to re-bleet rather than seek to understand the topic. I don't like Trump, at all politically, but I couldn't give a f*** what the author of some kids novels think.
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| DanH SW2 02 Aug 17 10.47am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I fail to understand why people take the opinions of unqualified celebrities so seriously (both left or right wing). I suspect its lazy f**king journalism and the fact that people are sheep who like to re-bleet rather than seek to understand the topic. I don't like Trump, at all politically, but I couldn't give a f*** what the author of some kids novels think. Well one of them is now in the White House.
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| .TUX. 05 Aug 17 7.49am |
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Should Greenspan be right, would Trump be blamed?
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| Stirlingsays 05 Aug 17 7.56am |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I fail to understand why people take the opinions of unqualified celebrities so seriously (both left or right wing). I suspect its lazy f**king journalism and the fact that people are sheep who like to re-bleet rather than seek to understand the topic. I don't like Trump, at all politically, but I couldn't give a f*** what the author of some kids novels think. It's that celebrity thing isn't it....they get elevated in status and people care about what they think even though it can be like asking your plumber about life on Mars. It's why Trump is doing this job in the first place.
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| Stirlingsays 05 Aug 17 8.00am |
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Why not, he's blamed for everything, just like Obama before him. Trump doesn't really run the economy, he runs his twitter feed, watches Fox and attends functions.
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Farawayeagle  Sydney 05 Aug 17 8.38am |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Why not, he's blamed for everything, just like Obama before him. Trump doesn't really run the economy, he runs his twitter feed, watches Fox and attends functions. Come on mate you can think deeper than that. Presidents are seriously involved in decisions that affect the economy. You just repeated the list of things the democratic media spew out about him. You can't directly connect every action but the American economy and its politics are much more complex than European ones. People dismissed Trump at every turn during the election and he continues to surprise them. He is still hugely popular with his base. I am not a Trump supporter but I am a student of politics going back 40 years. The anti brigade should not underestimate him. Edited by Farawayeagle (05 Aug 2017 8.39am)
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| Stirlingsays 05 Aug 17 8.52am |
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Originally posted by Farawayeagle
Come on mate you can think deeper than that. Presidents are seriously involved in decisions that affect the economy. You just repeated the list of things the democratic media spew out about him. You can't directly connect every action but the American economy and its politics are much more complex than European ones. People dismissed Trump at every turn during the election and he continues to surprise them. He is still hugely popular with his base. I am not a Trump supporter but I am a student of politics going back 40 years. The anti brigade should not underestimate him. Edited by Farawayeagle (05 Aug 2017 8.39am) My observations on Trump don't come from an anti Trump position....hell I started the thread...read the title....the overly emotional stuff on him and bias against him...even here just winds me up. No my observations on Trump come from observations made from how he is spending his time and what he's said. I like aspects of Trump....I can't and won't deny that I was happy to see Clinton lose as I'm anti 'progressive politics'...but it's not the same as saying I'm pro Trump....I don't want the poor not to have healthcare...I'm not pro-gun (though I respect their right)...I do believe in a level of welfare below which a society won't accept its citizens to fall.....Also I don't think it's good that Trump teaches us that lying and being an arse basically still works....It's not good. Sure Trump is popular. That support comes from the strong anti establishment core within a lot of America...and the fact that Trump is a great sh1t-talker...is very loose with facts and analysis and paints most things with a very simplistic brush....people like that....He says what they want to hear. A lot of the Democratic message to white people, especially males is....you should feel bad about yourself and you need to give up a slice of the pie.....Trump, implicitly says 'fcuk that'.....I'm going to 'take back the jobs'.....Well, I agree with him about the politically correct crap...but....he can't turn back time and over rule economic theory on manufacturing......He could bring back higher tech manufacturing maybe...but the realities of wages mean that a lot of people just brought into a lot of economic illiteracy. But I like his positions on nationalism and the fact that he correctly sees the existential threats that lay for future generations....He puts his country first and likes the UK.....whereas Obama had his 'pivot' towards China and entertained terrible groups like 'Black lives matter' at the White House.. Edited by Stirlingsays (05 Aug 2017 9.05am)
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| Red Al Reading 05 Aug 17 9.09am |
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
They have hijacked the internet with propaganda and falsehoods. Trump is the one who lies regularly and puts out falsehoods in his personal and official communications...
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| .TUX. 05 Aug 17 10.02am |
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Originally posted by Farawayeagle
Come on mate you can think deeper than that. Presidents are seriously involved in decisions that affect the economy. You just repeated the list of things the democratic media spew out about him. You can't directly connect every action but the American economy and its politics are much more complex than European ones. People dismissed Trump at every turn during the election and he continues to surprise them. He is still hugely popular with his base. I am not a Trump supporter but I am a student of politics going back 40 years. The anti brigade should not underestimate him. Edited by Farawayeagle (05 Aug 2017 8.39am) Not really, but you're not alone in thinking this. The Fed (Central Banks in general) controls the money/credit supply. This dictates which way any given economy will go.
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Ray in Houston  Houston 08 Aug 17 6.11pm |
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Originally posted by .TUX.
The Fed (Central Banks in general) controls the money/credit supply. This dictates which way any given economy will go. Actually, Presidents can't change tax laws either. That's why they talk about the "Bush/Obama/Trump administration": the main job is to oversee the functioning of the federal government. Now, the office of President clearly has a very large ability to drive public policy and, in the running of the government, has significant leeway. But laws are made by Congress, and Congress sets the budget and holds the purse strings. A President cannot declare war and has limited ability to deploy forces (although Congress has largely abdicated is duties in this regard so Presidents from W. Bush onwards have mostly done whatever they want). It's one of the few amusing things about watching Trump flail in the job; he hasn't yet figured out that - rather than being the boss - he's a somewhat powerless administrator. And the more he shows his unsuitability for the job, the less authority he will be allowed. In fact, the 25th Amendment to the Constitution allows for the President to be removed from office if the other teachers in the common room say so. Edited by Ray in Houston (08 Aug 2017 6.18pm)
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| .TUX. 08 Aug 17 6.58pm |
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Originally posted by Ray in Houston
Actually, Presidents can't change tax laws either. That's why they talk about the "Bush/Obama/Trump administration": the main job is to oversee the functioning of the federal government. Now, the office of President clearly has a very large ability to drive public policy and, in the running of the government, has significant leeway. But laws are made by Congress, and Congress sets the budget and holds the purse strings. A President cannot declare war and has limited ability to deploy forces (although Congress has largely abdicated is duties in this regard so Presidents from W. Bush onwards have mostly done whatever they want). It's one of the few amusing things about watching Trump flail in the job; he hasn't yet figured out that - rather than being the boss - he's a somewhat powerless administrator. And the more he shows his unsuitability for the job, the less authority he will be allowed. In fact, the 25th Amendment to the Constitution allows for the President to be removed from office if the other teachers in the common room say so. Edited by Ray in Houston (08 Aug 2017 6.18pm) You get my gist. And yes, Congress may well hold the purse strings, but they are not the ones who fill it.
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