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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 19 Jun 21 10.59am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

What you have said is literally the worst thing about the internet and why the discourse in this country is so poisonous. Any moron can set up a camera in their mum’s spare room spouting any old unfounded sh*te and you lap it up. And they’re so convincing you have the arrogance to call people who aren’t like you ‘normies’ like you’re on some sort of higher enlightened plane when really you’re just swallowing a load of crap from someone who dropped out of university because he missed his mum and is angry with the world because he couldn’t make it.

Seriously Dan, why do you have to personalise every topic? If you wanted a discussion on the merits of mainstream v alternative media that's one thing. But your schoolyard type 'hatred' is getting boring. Do you seriously want to turn each thread into a slagging match?

You can't even get your hatred correct anyway as I specifically told you I take in multiple views on what I'm interested in.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2021 11.12am)

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Seriously Dan, why do you have to personalise every topic? If you wanted a discussion on the merits of mainstream v alternative media that's one thing. But your schoolyard type 'hatred' is getting boring. Do you seriously want to turn each thread into a alagging match?

You can't even get your hatred correct anyway as I specifically told you I take in multiple views on what I've interested in.

So you’re allowed to peddle your stuff without any resistance? Got ya, free speech champion of the world.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 19 Jun 21 11.04am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

So you’re allowed to peddle your stuff without any resistance? Got ya, free speech champion of the world.

So I'm 'peddling my stuff', as opposed to?

Look if you want to personalise everything I'll do it, but I was analyzing this the same as others. Your free speech point is bizarre, I'm not saying you can't comment I'm purely criticising the style.

I wasn't even attacking anyone in particular and you should learn to play the ball and not the man.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2021 11.07am)

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 19 Jun 21 11.36am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I think the channel will obviously be a success as traditionally around 40 percent of the country vote Conservative consistently and they have criminally been deprived of a right leaning broadcaster since Murdoch gave up control of British Sky's political slant.

The idea that people will stop watching because the production isn't perfect or that some shows are crap just shows the blind spot that some on the left have for those who don't view the world through their lens.

I won't be watching it live though as I sent my BBC cancellation letter last week. Also, I agree with those who see most media news for what it is - gatekeeped and crafted opinion to suit a political demographic. Besides as a social conservative this channel carries that same defeated right wing perspective that exists as nothing more as painkiller as the world around them changes.

But on truth in news I've long been of the view that anyone serious about honest opinions has to pick their journalist because objectivity is largely a myth. Most normies don't see the world like that because they are less interested in any particular truth than having their own opinions fed back to them.

The great thing about the Internet is....or increasingly was (because censorship has altered the game) the fact that you could easily gain access to different non mainstream takes on the same news event from all political perspectives.

So I'd see what Jimmy Dore, Tim Pool, Sargon and others thought about what was controversial. If you're serious about news (and to be fair most people don't have the time) you need that analysis from different political bubbles before your take is truly your own.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2021 10.25am)

 


One more point

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 19 Jun 21 11.39am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

I wonder if tit-for-tat insulting posts would be done if the parties involved just pm'd each other or does the audience make a difference?

I think many would be less interested in confrontation if there wasn't an audience to admire their righteousness , at least in their own mind.

I often criticise when posters take positions that are factually wrong or insist their opinions are facts. Generally such posters shirk away for a while when asked to prove their facts or explain a statement.

e.g " I am pro China ".

When asked what Chinese govt policies they like there is no reply, when pressed it would be a " I don't need to explain myself to you " type reply, fair enough, but if someone posts a potentially controversial comment they should be prepared to back it up.

e.g

The Conservatives have a majority - fact

Everyone who voted for Corbyn is an anti semite - opinion

GB News is hate fuelled - opinion

GB news is best rated news show at certain hours of the day - fact

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 19 Jun 21 12.11pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

I wonder if tit-for-tat insulting posts would be done if the parties involved just pm'd each other or does the audience make a difference?

It's a fair point.

Dislikes or on-going arguments will inevitably contain insults (with some posters being notable exceptions). However, when it's every thread it ruins topics. The guy who starts the personal stuff has to own that.

As May West didn't say, there's a time and place for everything....well most things anyway.

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 19 Jun 21 12.19pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

So I'm 'peddling my stuff', as opposed to?

Look if you want to personalise everything I'll do it, but I was analyzing this the same as others. Your free speech point is bizarre, I'm not saying you can't comment I'm purely criticising the style.

I wasn't even attacking anyone in particular and you should learn to play the ball and not the man.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2021 11.07am)

Re-read your post. Your last 4 paragraphs are all about you. You made yourself the ball.

 

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QED my point.


Originally posted by DanH

Re-read your post. Your last 4 paragraphs are all about you. You made yourself the ball.

 


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Originally posted by DanH

Re-read your post. Your last 4 paragraphs are all about you. You made yourself the ball.

I'm not sure you are quite getting the meaning of that phrase.

As much as I may refer to myself I stand a distant second to your seemingly unhealthy obsession.

 


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Originally posted by HKOwen

QED my point.

Are you suggesting that I made this about me?

I was responding to a post criticising me. Am I expected to respond with a post that doesn't refer to that?

 


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Not at all Stirling, it was a comment on the preceding post from DanH.

I did not quote the post as then under my proposition I would have had to send him a PM and it goes on to infinity

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Are you suggesting that I made this about me?

I was responding to a post criticising me. Am I expected to respond with a post that doesn't refer to that?

 


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Originally posted by HKOwen

Not at all Stirling, it was a comment on the preceding post from DanH.

I did not quote the post as then under my proposition I would have had to send him a PM and it goes on to infinity

My apologies, my misunderstanding.

I'm probably getting paranoid.

I'm off for a coffee.

Edited by Stirlingsays (19 Jun 2021 1.01pm)

 


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