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taylors lovechild Flag 06 Jul 21 8.41am

Looking at the pictures of Vieira on the training pitch his sheer physical presence and confident demeanour suggest to me that at least to begin with he'll quickly get the players onboard and willing to fight for him. Players who have previously worked under him have spoken of his ability to keep things simple and to communicate effectively, which is very different from what we heard about FdB. Wilf is also an Arsenal fan, so I think he'll probably like this appointment (if he doesn't leave). As has been said elsewhere, the key will be getting an experienced assistant alongside him for when things aren't going so well. This Welsh chap sounds ideal if we can get him. The key to our hearts will be if we can smash our opponents in game six of the season!

 
doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 06 Jul 21 8.45am

Originally posted by Spiderman

I cannot believe how so many seem to be writing this appointment off as a disaster. When you have players like David Silva saying he is one of the best coaches he has played under, that will do for me.
Not sure what some fans wanted, personally Favre, once he was linked, would have been my choice but he didn’t want it. Move on.
I have confidence that this appointment will work and that we are in for an exciting time, not immediately but given time.
We should all get behind him and make him feel wanted


Well said Spider. It seems some fans can't get their head round the fact that the level of manager they want didn't want to come to Palace on the terms available. Frankly, I'm glad we didn't get Nuno with all his baggage and Favre's about-turn leaves me with serious questions about his suitability.

Vieira is a winner and a leader and is up for the challenge despite knowing that the club had wanted to appoint other names before him. He wants to make his mark in the PL and I'm more than happy for him to make that mark with us. I just hope that the board will now back him with the transfer funds that will have been promised him and will give him time to settle. In many ways our tough start to this campaign may work in our favour as the more winnable games (in the main) don't come until late October onwards.

If it's true that he was sent to New York in preparation to replace Guardiola had Guardiola not extended his contract, then that says a lot about Vieira's status as a potential PL manager in the eyes of the Citeh hierarchy.

 
Eaglecoops Flag CR3 06 Jul 21 8.56am

Originally posted by doombear


Well said Spider. It seems some fans can't get their head round the fact that the level of manager they want didn't want to come to Palace on the terms available. Frankly, I'm glad we didn't get Nuno with all his baggage and Favre's about-turn leaves me with serious questions about his suitability.

Vieira is a winner and a leader and is up for the challenge despite knowing that the club had wanted to appoint other names before him. He wants to make his mark in the PL and I'm more than happy for him to make that mark with us. I just hope that the board will now back him with the transfer funds that will have been promised him and will give him time to settle. In many ways our tough start to this campaign may work in our favour as the more winnable games (in the main) don't come until late October onwards.

If it's true that he was sent to New York in preparation to replace Guardiola had Guardiola not extended his contract, then that says a lot about Vieira's status as a potential PL manager in the eyes of the Citeh hierarchy.

Incredibly upbeat for a doom bear! I hear what you say and agree with most of it although my concerns are more with the players we have than the manager. Wilf off, Eze out, only Benteke currently confirmed as re-signed of the potential leavers. A squad that is yet another year older with our best centre half’s constantly injured, no senior wingers if Townsend goes and our midfield very underwhelming.

I reckon we need 5 quality players to be competitive. Will we be able to afford them and attract them?

 
doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 06 Jul 21 9.09am

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

Incredibly upbeat for a doom bear! I hear what you say and agree with most of it although my concerns are more with the players we have than the manager. Wilf off, Eze out, only Benteke currently confirmed as re-signed of the potential leavers. A squad that is yet another year older with our best centre half’s constantly injured, no senior wingers if Townsend goes and our midfield very underwhelming.

I reckon we need 5 quality players to be competitive. Will we be able to afford them and attract them?


And you are right to be (those are my concerns as well).

We need to distinguish between the appointment of the manager and the resources he will have at his disposal come 14th August. If we fail to strengthen our squad with at least 4 or 5 quality players, then it won't matter who is the manager - we will struggle. Even with strengthened resources, it will take time for the squad to gel.

I just have a good feeling about Vieira. Don't know why and it may be totally wrong but I'm looking forward to 21st August and being at our first home game.

 
Midlands Eagle Flag 06 Jul 21 9.26am

Originally posted by doombear


I just have a good feeling about Vieira. Don't know why and it may be totally wrong

I don't normally comment on threads like this but I agree with you and feel that given backing from the shareholders he could do very well for us

 
HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 06 Jul 21 9.37am

and let's congratulate Dazza who despite losing money on Lampard and Favre did win on Vieira.........

Hopefully no new manager thread for a few years

 

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Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 06 Jul 21 9.43am

Originally posted by HKOwen

and let's congratulate Dazza who despite losing money on Lampard and Favre did win on Vieira.........

Hopefully no new manager thread for a few years


Even the blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.

 

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Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 06 Jul 21 9.45am

Vieira wasn't one of my top choices but I'm quite intrigued to see what he brings to the table now he's here and, specifically, the type of players and style of football that he goes for.

The last couple of years have been all about safety, both in terms of supporting Palace and life in general. I'm definitely ready for a change, taking a few risks and the excitement that brings.

Cannot wait to get back to Selhurst and get a few beers down me.

 

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...
The Dolphin Flag 06 Jul 21 9.47am

Originally posted by sickboy

It's natural for some of us.
My wife reckons I can make the most stylish and expensive suits look like they're being modelled by a tramp.
I suppose she's technically right.

You are not alone!
I do exactly the same to clothes

 
The Dolphin Flag 06 Jul 21 9.50am

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Vieira wasn't one of my top choices but I'm quite intrigued to see what he brings to the table now he's here and, specifically, the type of players and style of football that he goes for.

The last couple of years have been all about safety, both in terms of supporting Palace and life in general. I'm definitely ready for a change, taking a few risks and the excitement that brings.

Cannot wait to get back to Selhurst and get a few beers down me.

Seconded!
He would not have been my choice but let's support him and the team now.
Exciting months ahead hopefully!

 
Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 06 Jul 21 10.27am

Originally posted by The Dolphin

Seconded!
He would not have been my choice but let's support him and the team now.
Exciting months ahead hopefully!


Absolutely. I think people will start cheering up once a few contract renewals and signings are confirmed.

I've been as negative as anyone over the last year under Roy but things are looking up now and, despite England being in the semi-finals of a major tournament, I'd be lying if I said it wasn't the prospect of a first trip to Selhurst in two years that's really revving my engine at the moment!

 

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...
Painter Flag Croydon 06 Jul 21 11.01am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

As your sycophancy does yours

I am not fashion conscious! Don’t care what people wear.

 
Sansbup Flag Norfolk 06 Jul 21 11.23am

I'm surprised there is significant negativity concerning PV's appointment and prospects of success. He was a top top player, by all accounts a respected coach and has some management experience.

But I suppose some of you can potentially say "I told you so" in due course, so I hope that's some comfort for you.

Personally I'm excited to see where we are by Christmas and if we're bottom then I'll eat humble pie. I wonder if the naysayers will do the same if he's a success?

 
Spiderman Flag Horsham 06 Jul 21 11.36am

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace


Even the blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.

And there is plenty to find on here

 
Palacesince64 Flag Edinburgh 06 Jul 21 12.21pm

Originally posted by Sansbup

I'm surprised there is significant negativity concerning PV's appointment and prospects of success. He was a top top player, by all accounts a respected coach and has some management experience.

But I suppose some of you can potentially say "I told you so" in due course, so I hope that's some comfort for you.

Personally I'm excited to see where we are by Christmas and if we're bottom then I'll eat humble pie. I wonder if the naysayers will do the same if he's a success?

Well said. I’m delighted he’s on board. It’s been a struggle for SP but we have a manager who wants to be part of the project. The other names mentioned were either put off by the enormity of the task or made unreasonable demands. Good riddance to all of them I say.

Given our current squad we could be bottom at Christmas with Guardiola in charge so we should wish PV luck and get behind him regardless of what happens this season. Let’s not have a PV out thread please! To change our style, utilise the academy more and still be in th PL next season is a huge challenge for any manager. If he plays good football and brings some kids through and we stay up the man is a genius.

Viva Vieira! COYP!

 
Putitout Flag Oxford 06 Jul 21 12.53pm

As said by some already, the make up of the squad is every bit as much a concern as whether Patrick, has enough manager qualities to succeed. Personally for what it’s worth in a public debate, I think he has ,
Getting the squad sorted out might prove a bit more of a problem.
For a start , has Viera , been able to see enough of any of the out of contract players, either playing or training to have good reason to keep? An honest assessment would take weeks as against days.
If we are going for new blood, any assessment ,s should be over now or very soon as work needs to be in place to cover any holes left by the end of the window, and that can only happen when we are fully into who actually goes.
Some of the out of contracts, could be given a late offer if all else was not in place, but only if those that can do a job have not moved on.. I would like to see a fair bit of new blood , so I’m hoping the decisions have been taken, but these things are expensive and never easy, so here’s hoping.

 
doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 06 Jul 21 1.29pm

Originally posted by Palacesince64

Well said. I’m delighted he’s on board. It’s been a struggle for SP but we have a manager who wants to be part of the project. The other names mentioned were either put off by the enormity of the task or made unreasonable demands. Good riddance to all of them I say.

Given our current squad we could be bottom at Christmas with Guardiola in charge so we should wish PV luck and get behind him regardless of what happens this season. Let’s not have a PV out thread please! To change our style, utilise the academy more and still be in th PL next season is a huge challenge for any manager. If he plays good football and brings some kids through and we stay up the man is a genius.

Viva Vieira! COYP!


This! PV will need longer than until Christmas 2021 so let's hope the board will give that to him.

If we avoid relegation this season then PV will have been a success IMO.

 
Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Jul 21 1.34pm

If Vieira proves to be a success, I suspect other clubs higher in the 'Food chain' will come calling if they wish to replace their managers.

On a general point, had the club appointed Lampard,Dyche,Favre,Nuno, HOL would be awash with excitement and there would have been a real sense of optimism.I don't sense these emotions at the present time.

Edited by Willo (06 Jul 2021 1.38pm)

 
Knightstar Flag Guildford 06 Jul 21 1.59pm

I think Vieira will prove to be a good choice. He was a World-class player and has some useful managerial experience and will have gained from his time at City under Mancini.
I also think the out of contract situation isn't that bad if we can get Townsend, Ward and Cahill on extensions. That would give us a squad of 19 if I've counted right and then we need to buy or loan the following:
1 x RB (as 1st choice prior to Ferguson return)
2 x CH (to be groomed alongside Tompkins/Cahill)
1 x DM (box to box in the PV mould)
1 x AM (to cover for Eze until he returns)
1 x RW (as 1st choice with Andros as backup)

This should all be doable and all the talk of relegation should cease. Come on, be positive!

COYP!


 
CrazyBadger Flag Ware 06 Jul 21 2.14pm

I dare say Survival is Vieira's no.1 priority, and if there is real danger of relegation then his job will be at risk.

We just need to give him as much time as is reasonable to sort it.

 

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