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BlueJay Flag UK 14 Jun 22 4.11pm

Originally posted by Wilesy01


Interested to get your opinion on the state of the American economy vs the British economy.

Looking at how the dollar is routing the pound (GBP is now 1.20 vs the USD and shows plenty of signs of declining further) I'd argue any economic turbulence in the US is nothing compared to where we are domestically.

Assuming you're frothing at the mouth at Johnson
, Sunak and co. for this cost of living crisis and the reasons as to why inflation and growth projections are weaker here than the US??

Now his views make a lot more sense..

But I digress, I can't help think that the combined impact of Brexit (not a judgement on it, just the immediate impact), Ukraine (which is a much bigger hit to Europe) and Covid inevitably knocks us for six more than some. It's hard to know the full impact of the world economy taking a dive on any country yet I feel! hold on tight.

 

BlueJay Flag UK 14 Jun 22 4.28pm

Capitol Police officer dismisses descriptions of Jan. 6 as a tour - [Link]

"U.S. Capitol Police Officer Aquilino Gonell dismissed the idea that Jan. 6, 2021 — the day a mob of pro-Trump supporters stormed the Capitol to stop Congress from certifying the 2020 election — was a tour, as some lawmakers had suggested.


“Well, those people, they never had talked to me about it. They never had like a minute or so, so I could tell them or show them my injuries. I could assure you that that was not a tour,” the police sergeant said. “And those people — that whoever assaulted me and my fellow officers, they should be in jail, not just — [they] were not the good guys during that day.”


The ultimate Virgin Experience Day.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 14 Jun 22 4.57pm

Originally posted by Wilesy01

Interested to get your opinion on the state of the American economy vs the British economy.

Looking at how the dollar is routing the pound (GBP is now 1.20 vs the USD and shows plenty of signs of declining further) I'd argue any economic turbulence in the US is nothing compared to where we are domestically.

Assuming you're frothing at the mouth at Johnson, Sunak and co. for this cost of living crisis and the reasons as to why inflation and growth projections are weaker here than the US??

I think in short things are going to get much worse in the US and worse here....that's what I'm hearing though I admit economics has never been a strength of mine (I'm hoping that once the war ends things ease a bit).

From what I can gather I think we have a little better protection but not much.

I take zero pleasure in any of it.....If I'm honest when it comes down to people suffering far beyond the culture war you could put a Chimp in there and if things were better I'd be happier.

Until the bananas ran out.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jun 2022 4.59pm)

 


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Stirlingsays Flag 14 Jun 22 5.12pm

I'll add that I don't think the inflation rates being told to us aren't accurate ones....definitely in the US.

Here is an interesting take from a trader chap that I sometimes follow.

[Link]

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jun 2022 5.12pm)

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 14 Jun 22 5.17pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

Now his views make a lot more sense..

But I digress, I can't help think that the combined impact of Brexit (not a judgement on it, just the immediate impact), Ukraine (which is a much bigger hit to Europe) and Covid inevitably knocks us for six more than some. It's hard to know the full impact of the world economy taking a dive on any country yet I feel! hold on tight.

The UK economy was in serious trouble before any of those. It provided a useful smokescreen for personal ineptitude and greed

Not quite sure how the US handles anything politically at the moment with Biden at the helm. He always seems in need of medication.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 14 Jun 22 5.41pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly



The UK economy was in serious trouble before any of those.
It provided a useful smokescreen for personal ineptitude and greed

Not quite sure how the US handles anything politically at the moment with Biden at the helm. He always seems in need of medication.

That'a certainly true, and even more worrisome really. A perfect storm. The US is in pretty terrible shape also. Maybe it'll take a year or more to get a grasp on how bad things are going to get.

 

BlueJay Flag UK 14 Jun 22 5.56pm

Sandy Hook conspiracy theorist says she's 'proud' to harass families of children who were killed in mass shootings - [Link]

Quote Prove to the world you've lost your son," Kelley Watt wrote, under the username "gr8mom," to Lenny Pozner, whose six-year-old, Noah, was killed in the 2012 Sandy Hook elementary school shooting.

A suburban Tulsa grandmother of two, Watt has spent the greater part of the last decade "researching" mass shooting incidents — which she considers false flag operations intended to push gun control legislation through the United States government, despite the fact that no significant legislation has been passed in response to such shootings.

Her "research" involves sending harassing messages to surviving family members of people who have died in mass shootings, including the attack at Sandy Hook elementary school that left 20 first-grade students and six adults dead.

"I just had a strong sense that this didn't happen," she said. "Too many of those parents just rub me the wrong way."

Watt shared her story with Elizabeth Williamson for the recently released book "Sandy Hook: An American Tragedy and the Battle for Truth," and told the author she was "proud" of what she has done and continues to do.

She explained that she spends hours trying to prove her baseless claims about Sandy Hook. Some of her theories include: that the photos of the shooter's bedroom were too barren to have a teenager living in it; that Chris and Lynn McDonnell – whose seven-year-old, Grace, was killed in the shooting – didn't cry enough for parents who had just lost a daughter; and that other parents were "too old to have kids that age."

But nothing, not even proof that she's wrong, has yet dissuaded Watt from her theories, which are in line with those pushed by the likes of InfoWars host Alex Jones — who was found liable in at least four defamation cases for spreading lies that the Sandy Hook shooting was a "hoax."

For example, Watt spent several years trying to prove that no company had been contracted to clean the elementary school crime scene. When presented with the name of the business and police report, was momentarily silent before casting further doubt on the evidence.

"I haven't seen that document," Watt said. "But where are the receipts?"

Moving the goalposts of an argument in this way is a common tactic among conspiracy theorists, who are often driven by the feelings of superiority and specialness that they know something other people don't.

Watt's daughter, Madison, said she doesn't have much hope for changing her mother's mind. The conspiracy-mongering has led, at least in part, to the dissolution of Watt's marriage and contributed to tense relationships with her children. The stakes of acknowledging that she is wrong now after she has lost so much, are too great, according to her daughter.

"There's a great deal of narcissism in this idea that 'everyone's got it wrong and we're in this select group of people that knows.' It would explode her own persona to allow any doubt to come in," Madison said of her mother's progressively more extreme theories.

"Her whole identity has been built on this for so many years. She's invested so much."

The sad realities of going 'all in' on a persective to the detriment of others. No doubt we all have degrees this way and that in terms of politics and beliefs but when it goes too far what a sad, sad state of affairs it becomes.

Edited by BlueJay (14 Jun 2022 6.07pm)

 

Stirlingsays Flag 14 Jun 22 7.50pm

No wonder homeschooling isn't so popular on the left anymore....for those who don't know, the babylonbee is satirical.

Edited by Stirlingsays (14 Jun 2022 7.52pm)

 


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W12 14 Jun 22 8.25pm

Most people will not be able to believe or comprehend what’s coming because they have never had to live through it. Still, it will be pretty much the norm people have had to deal with historically.

The only upside is that people will be no rainbow flags, racial politics or transgenderism because everyone will be in the same boat and everyone will have much more important things to worry about like feeding their families and keeping themselves warm.

 

Stirlingsays Flag 14 Jun 22 8.35pm

Pretty concerning.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 14 Jun 22 8.41pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Pretty concerning.

She seems to have gone to the same school at handling questions as bungle and his cabinet- only she could throw the odd peppa peppa pig world comment in, anyone been there ? Its a great place sir, but cant answer next question!

 

BlueJay Flag UK 14 Jun 22 8.54pm

Originally posted by W12

Most people will not be able to believe or comprehend what’s coming because they have never had to live through it. Still, it will be pretty much the norm people have had to deal with historically.

The only upside is that people will be no rainbow flags, racial politics or transgenderism because everyone will be in the same boat and everyone will have much more important things to worry about like feeding their families and keeping themselves warm.

You'll still be moaning about them all reagrdless. You'd opt for a wind up laptop with wifi, over heating or food for your family . The alt-media lifeline! Anyway, back to the football...

 

Stirlingsays Flag 14 Jun 22 9.08pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

She seems to have gone to the same school at handling questions as bungle and his cabinet- only she could throw the odd peppa peppa pig world comment in, anyone been there ? Its a great place sir, but cant answer next question!

I haven't been there....with two small boys though I think I'll look into it.

 


'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 14 Jun 22 9.31pm

bump

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 14 Jun 22 9.35pm

Im stuck on page 250, can you move me up becky and stop banning freedom of speach

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 14 Jun 22 9.44pm

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I haven't been there....with two small boys though I think I'll look into it.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 14 Jun 22 9.51pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I think he is too damaged now to stand a chance of succeeding, so it would depend on how stupid the voters were in the Primaries on whether he got the GOP nomination, or stood as an independent and really handed it to the Dems.

There you go again. All republican voters are stupid!
Left wing tripe again.

 

BlueJay Flag UK 14 Jun 22 9.57pm

Originally posted by cryrst

There you go again. All republican voters are stupid!
Left wing tripe again.

A fair chunk of voters stateside are nuts (rather than necessarily stupid), but it's certainly not party specific . Getting worse too. One to mark off the travel list for a while I think.

 

W12 14 Jun 22 10.02pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

You'll still be moaning about them all reagrdless. You'd opt for a wind up laptop with wifi, over heating or food for your family . The alt-media lifeline! Anyway, back to the football...

Nope, technology has huge potential when directed at the right problems. I have a very good understand of the potential of AI, machine learning and Quantum computers especially which will totally change the game.

The people who are questioning where the flying cars are and why are we not exploring Mars are actually correct. All of human ingenuity is now focused on making a very small number of oligarchs richer and controlling the rest of us to remove any competition. The vast majority of the western world is going backwards now in terms of quality of life despite the rise in productively driven by technology and subsequently the rest of the world will suffer unless we can turn that around.

 

cryrst Flag The garden of England 14 Jun 22 10.03pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

A fair chunk of voters stateside are nuts (rather than necessarily stupid), but it's certainly not party specific . Getting worse too. One to mark off the travel list for a while I think.

He clearly aimed it at republican voters though.

 

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