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serial thriller The Promised Land 20 Oct 20 4.47pm
Originally posted by Badger11 It's Canada plus and would be oven ready if the EU accepted it. However they haven't so we now go with no deal and tell their fishermen to keep out of our waters. I also have an oven ready deal for me to play up front for Palace next season on 100k a week. Only thing I need now is for Steve Parish to stop being so stubborn and sign it. Edited by serial thriller (20 Oct 2020 4.48pm) If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

serial thriller

The Promised Land 20 Oct 20 4.47pm

Originally posted by Badger11

It's Canada plus and would be oven ready if the EU accepted it. However they haven't so we now go with no deal and tell their fishermen to keep out of our waters.

I also have an oven ready deal for me to play up front for Palace next season on 100k a week.

Only thing I need now is for Steve Parish to stop being so stubborn and sign it.

Edited by serial thriller (20 Oct 2020 4.48pm)

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

palace_in_frogland In a broken dream 20 Oct 20 4.50pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 The best solution is simply to extend the present transition in view of the strain imposed by the pandemic. That should avoid food shortages and price hikes and all the border lorry absurdities. The politics has been done, the UK left early this year. But that is only an interruption to the the UKs paranoia, it is hard to see how it will cease. In 15 years time the tories will still be tearing the country, and themselves, apart over Europe. In fact leaving the EU, as we can see here, just makes our lost generation even more paranoid, not less. So, you’re finally accepting that Labour are not getting back in then?

palace_in_frogland

In a broken dream 20 Oct 20 4.50pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

The best solution is simply to extend the present transition in view of the strain imposed by the pandemic.

That should avoid food shortages and price hikes and all the border lorry absurdities.

The politics has been done, the UK left early this year.

But that is only an interruption to the the UKs paranoia, it is hard to see how it will cease.

In 15 years time the tories will still be tearing the country, and themselves, apart over Europe.

In fact leaving the EU, as we can see here, just makes our lost generation even more paranoid, not less.

So, you’re finally accepting that Labour are not getting back in then?

Badger11 Beckenham 20 Oct 20 4.51pm
Originally posted by serial thriller I also have an oven ready deal for me to play up front for Palace next season on 100k a week. Only thing I need now is for Steve Parish to stop being so stubborn and sign it. Edited by serial thriller (20 Oct 2020 4.48pm) If you can score 20 goals a season I'm sure he would give you that. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 20 Oct 20 4.51pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

I also have an oven ready deal for me to play up front for Palace next season on 100k a week.

Only thing I need now is for Steve Parish to stop being so stubborn and sign it.

Edited by serial thriller (20 Oct 2020 4.48pm)

If you can score 20 goals a season I'm sure he would give you that.

One more point

steeleye20 Croydon 20 Oct 20 5.18pm
The EU will probably ignore the UKs fishing limits, as Russia already does. No alternative, we will have to use Trident, subject to the availability of the crew.

steeleye20

Croydon 20 Oct 20 5.18pm

The EU will probably ignore the UKs fishing limits, as Russia already does.

No alternative, we will have to use Trident, subject to the availability of the crew.

steeleye20 Croydon 20 Oct 20 5.28pm
Originally posted by palace_in_frogland No, I think the tories northern vote is collapsing. If Corbyn had been elected, by the way, we would have a new agreement and furthermore we would be voting to accept or reject in a new referendum.

steeleye20

Croydon 20 Oct 20 5.28pm

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

No, I think the tories northern vote is collapsing.

If Corbyn had been elected, by the way, we would have a new agreement and furthermore we would be voting to accept or reject in a new referendum.

cryrst The garden of England 20 Oct 20 5.42pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 No, I think the tories northern vote is collapsing. If Corbyn had been elected, by the way, we would have a new agreement and furthermore we would be voting to accept or reject in a new referendum. Three and a half years of stress still for you leftys then. Basking in the glory. And if corbyn had been elected abbott would have given us all a million to stay home and this virus would be gone obviously. Maybe the vote collapsing is labours due to andy pandy sacrificing people for 13 % more money. What a guy.

cryrst

The garden of England 20 Oct 20 5.42pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

No, I think the tories northern vote is collapsing.

If Corbyn had been elected, by the way, we would have a new agreement and furthermore we would be voting to accept or reject in a new referendum.

Three and a half years of stress still for you leftys then. Basking in the glory.
And if corbyn had been elected abbott would have given us all a million to stay home and this virus would be gone obviously. Maybe the vote collapsing is labours due to andy pandy sacrificing people for 13 % more money. What a guy.

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 20 Oct 20 6.02pm
Originally posted by serial thriller I also have an oven ready deal for me to play up front for Palace next season on 100k a week. Only thing I need now is for Steve Parish to stop being so stubborn and sign it. Edited by serial thriller (20 Oct 2020 4.48pm) Covid is the best thing that could’ve happened for Brexit - complete distraction and removal of any accountability.

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 20 Oct 20 6.02pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

I also have an oven ready deal for me to play up front for Palace next season on 100k a week.

Only thing I need now is for Steve Parish to stop being so stubborn and sign it.

Edited by serial thriller (20 Oct 2020 4.48pm)

Covid is the best thing that could’ve happened for Brexit - complete distraction and removal of any accountability.

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 20 Oct 20 6.06pm
Originally posted by cryrst Three and a half years of stress still for you leftys then. Basking in the glory. And if corbyn had been elected abbott would have given us all a million to stay home and this virus would be gone obviously. Maybe the vote collapsing is labours due to andy pandy sacrificing people for 13 % more money. What a guy. Modern politics in a nutshell - elect one of the worst governments we’ve ever seen and claim it as a win, “bask in the glory” and vote the same failures in again next time round. Depressing.

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 20 Oct 20 6.06pm

Originally posted by cryrst

Three and a half years of stress still for you leftys then. Basking in the glory.
And if corbyn had been elected abbott would have given us all a million to stay home and this virus would be gone obviously. Maybe the vote collapsing is labours due to andy pandy sacrificing people for 13 % more money. What a guy.

Modern politics in a nutshell - elect one of the worst governments we’ve ever seen and claim it as a win, “bask in the glory” and vote the same failures in again next time round.

Depressing.

Matov 20 Oct 20 6.23pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 No, I think the tories northern vote is collapsing. If Corbyn had been elected, by the way, we would have a new agreement and furthermore we would be voting to accept or reject in a new referendum. Firstly I see little evidence of the Tories northern vote 'collapsing'. The polls have shown Labour catching up and even in one over-taking but I believe they have fallen back again. And the reality is that due to Covid no polls can be given any real validity. Johnson is not even 1 year into a 5 year term and with a huge majority, is not going anywhere any time soon. As to your onastic fantasys about a second referendum I suspect we would not have a 'deal'. Essentially Labour would have agreed to agree to anything the EU asked before putting that to us along with the option of Remaining. Followed by a farce of a vote in the face of an organised boycott along with millions unwilling to pay it any attention. Brexit would not have been sorted, merely elevated to even more division in the country. Or do you honestly think it would settle the issue? Do you think people would just sit back and accept the outcome? Edited by Matov (20 Oct 2020 6.24pm) "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

20 Oct 20 6.23pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

No, I think the tories northern vote is collapsing.

If Corbyn had been elected, by the way, we would have a new agreement and furthermore we would be voting to accept or reject in a new referendum.

Firstly I see little evidence of the Tories northern vote 'collapsing'. The polls have shown Labour catching up and even in one over-taking but I believe they have fallen back again.

And the reality is that due to Covid no polls can be given any real validity. Johnson is not even 1 year into a 5 year term and with a huge majority, is not going anywhere any time soon.

As to your onastic fantasys about a second referendum I suspect we would not have a 'deal'. Essentially Labour would have agreed to agree to anything the EU asked before putting that to us along with the option of Remaining.

Followed by a farce of a vote in the face of an organised boycott along with millions unwilling to pay it any attention. Brexit would not have been sorted, merely elevated to even more division in the country. Or do you honestly think it would settle the issue? Do you think people would just sit back and accept the outcome?

Edited by Matov (20 Oct 2020 6.24pm)

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

cryrst The garden of England 20 Oct 20 9.52pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Modern politics in a nutshell - elect one of the worst governments we’ve ever seen and claim it as a win, “bask in the glory” and vote the same failures in again next time round. Depressing. That's a matter of opinion and fortunately either of us could be correct.

cryrst

The garden of England 20 Oct 20 9.52pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Modern politics in a nutshell - elect one of the worst governments we’ve ever seen and claim it as a win, “bask in the glory” and vote the same failures in again next time round.

Depressing.

That's a matter of opinion and fortunately either of us could be correct.

Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 20 11.15pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Oops. What happened to Boris Johnson's oven ready deal? He forgot to check whether those who were at the dinner table were likely to want to eat Turkey Twizzlers and gravy with a side of bs. They are looking for something more sophisticated. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Wisbech Eagle

Truro Cornwall 20 Oct 20 11.15pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Oops. What happened to Boris Johnson's oven ready deal?

He forgot to check whether those who were at the dinner table were likely to want to eat Turkey Twizzlers and gravy with a side of bs.

They are looking for something more sophisticated.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

Tim Gypsy Hill '64 Stoke sub normal 20 Oct 20 11.55pm
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle He forgot to check whether those who were at the dinner table were likely to want to eat Turkey Twizzlers and gravy with a side of bs. They are looking for something more sophisticated. Well, the other option is spam. [Link] Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Tim Gypsy Hill '64

Stoke sub normal 20 Oct 20 11.55pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

He forgot to check whether those who were at the dinner table were likely to want to eat Turkey Twizzlers and gravy with a side of bs.

They are looking for something more sophisticated.

Well, the other option is spam.

[Link]

Systematically dragged down by the lawmakers

Maine Eagle USA 21 Oct 20 3.19pm
Originally posted by Badger11 It's Canada plus and would be oven ready if the EU accepted it. However they haven't so we now go with no deal and tell their fishermen to keep out of our waters. Oh so it was oven ready, except the guy who owns the other half of the oven unfortunately disagreed. Not oven ready then was it. You got lied to. I guess Boris should have said it was 50% oven ready. Not so catchy though eh. Cant put that on a bus. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 21 Oct 20 3.19pm

Originally posted by Badger11

It's Canada plus and would be oven ready if the EU accepted it. However they haven't so we now go with no deal and tell their fishermen to keep out of our waters.

Oh so it was oven ready, except the guy who owns the other half of the oven unfortunately disagreed.

Not oven ready then was it.

You got lied to. I guess Boris should have said it was 50% oven ready.

Not so catchy though eh. Cant put that on a bus.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Badger11 Beckenham 21 Oct 20 3.51pm
Originally posted by Maine Eagle Oh so it was oven ready, except the guy who owns the other half of the oven unfortunately disagreed. Not oven ready then was it. You got lied to. I guess Boris should have said it was 50% oven ready. Not so catchy though eh. Cant put that on a bus. I think it was a valid comment all the UK asked for was the same as Canada had got plus a few extras. This deal had been previously offered to Mrs May and she had turned it down. The EU have now decided that they can't or won't offer us this deal. If they will not budge then there is nothing to negotiate and there fisherman will be out of our waters and probably out of jobs instead of being in them with a reduced catch. If I was the EU I would recognize the inevitable that it is our sovereign territory and focus on getting the best deal for their fishermen. It is all well and good the Eurocracts drawing a line and saying they will not cross but the're not the ones who will lose their jobs. I bet the fisherman would like them to negotiate. Edited by Badger11 (21 Oct 2020 3.54pm) Edited by Badger11 (21 Oct 2020 3.55pm) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 21 Oct 20 3.51pm

Originally posted by Maine Eagle

Oh so it was oven ready, except the guy who owns the other half of the oven unfortunately disagreed.

Not oven ready then was it.

You got lied to. I guess Boris should have said it was 50% oven ready.

Not so catchy though eh. Cant put that on a bus.

I think it was a valid comment all the UK asked for was the same as Canada had got plus a few extras.

This deal had been previously offered to Mrs May and she had turned it down. The EU have now decided that they can't or won't offer us this deal.

If they will not budge then there is nothing to negotiate and there fisherman will be out of our waters and probably out of jobs instead of being in them with a reduced catch.

If I was the EU I would recognize the inevitable that it is our sovereign territory and focus on getting the best deal for their fishermen. It is all well and good the Eurocracts drawing a line and saying they will not cross but the're not the ones who will lose their jobs. I bet the fisherman would like them to negotiate.

Edited by Badger11 (21 Oct 2020 3.54pm)

Edited by Badger11 (21 Oct 2020 3.55pm)

One more point

steeleye20 Croydon 21 Oct 20 4.48pm
On the contrary the new EU SURE job support program, massively over-subscribed yesterday, will keep europeans in work and protect living standards. Whether there is a deal or not, there is bound to be a big shake-out of British jobs, the Chancellors gimmicks will not save them. Combine that with the pandemic and you have a disaster. I think fishing is the last of our worries.

steeleye20

Croydon 21 Oct 20 4.48pm

On the contrary the new EU SURE job support program, massively over-subscribed yesterday, will keep europeans in work and protect living standards.

Whether there is a deal or not, there is bound to be a big shake-out of British jobs, the Chancellors gimmicks will not save them.

Combine that with the pandemic and you have a disaster.

I think fishing is the last of our worries.

Hrolf The Ganger 21 Oct 20 5.44pm
All the bitter little Remainers are out today. I was always in favour of no deal.

Hrolf The Ganger

21 Oct 20 5.44pm

All the bitter little Remainers are out today.

I was always in favour of no deal.

Matov 21 Oct 20 6.05pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger I was always in favour of no deal. Absolutely. A complete reset. For me the only way Brexit is an actual sucess is if we just walk away and trade on WTO terms. I actually fear a deal because I simply cannot believe that anything the EU would be willing to sign is in the UK's interest. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

21 Oct 20 6.05pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

I was always in favour of no deal.

Absolutely. A complete reset. For me the only way Brexit is an actual sucess is if we just walk away and trade on WTO terms. I actually fear a deal because I simply cannot believe that anything the EU would be willing to sign is in the UK's interest.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

DanH SW2 21 Oct 20 7.22pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger All the bitter little Remainers are out today. I was always in favour of no deal. Because you don’t understand what it means.

DanH

SW2 21 Oct 20 7.22pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

All the bitter little Remainers are out today.

I was always in favour of no deal.

Because you don’t understand what it means.

Maine Eagle USA 21 Oct 20 7.52pm
Originally posted by DanH Because you don’t understand what it means. Why let a little thing like comprehension stand in the way of a strongly held belief built on a foundation of quicksand peddled by snake oil salesmen? No deal will come to pass, and all the fools who sing its praises will finally understand, only at the end. Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

Maine Eagle

USA 21 Oct 20 7.52pm

Originally posted by DanH

Because you don’t understand what it means.

Why let a little thing like comprehension stand in the way of a strongly held belief built on a foundation of quicksand peddled by snake oil salesmen?

No deal will come to pass, and all the fools who sing its praises will finally understand, only at the end.

Trump lost. Badly. Hahahahahahaha.

DanH SW2 21 Oct 20 8.13pm
Originally posted by Matov Absolutely. A complete reset. For me the only way Brexit is an actual sucess is if we just walk away and trade on WTO terms. I actually fear a deal because I simply cannot believe that anything the EU would be willing to sign is in the UK's interest. It’s not just trade though is it? And you know that.

DanH

SW2 21 Oct 20 8.13pm

Originally posted by Matov

It’s not just trade though is it? And you know that.

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