Wisbech you said Obama spoke the truth?
That we will be at the back of the line for a trade deal but then the left are getting all upset about chlorinated chicken. Make your minds up are we having a deal or not,or is it fake news again lol

People love Obama for many reasons but mainly because he is clearly a decent man who loves his country, and particularly the disadvantaged in it, before himself.

Trump is not pro anything that doesn't start with Trump.

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If you really cannot understand why what Obama said, and how and why he did so, was so different to Trump's latest stupidity then I am afraid you ought to look up the meaning of the "pot calling the kettle black".

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It's a bad thing if it's bs served up for the consumption of the gullible in a restaurant operated by Rupert Murdoch.

Doesn't anyone else smell the aroma of blatant interference that I do? Murdoch is a manipulator and always has been.

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That makes no sense to me!

Obama said that there were other deals to be negotiated before us, because we already had one and if we voluntarily gave it up we couldn't expect preferential treatment. He was supportive of the EU.

Trump wants to break up the EU so holds out a promise that is undeliverable, unless we massively compromise, which we won't.

Any separate deal with the USA would take a lot of time to negotiate unless it closely replicated exactly what already exists between the EU and the USA. That's the reality. Obama spoke the truth. Trump is just being the con man he always is.

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I'm not arguing if we get a good or bad deal, that's your deflection from my question that Obama lied. Nice try though.
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So yes you are biased.

Edited by dannyboy1978 (02 Jun 2019 7.20pm)

I know....I can't think of much I like about Murdoch or his empire....however it's somewhat telling that this is the media king that Wisbech, the self styled, 'one nation conservative' chooses to complain about.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

To repeat. Obama did not lie. He told the truth

Trump lies all the time. It's his default position and he doesn't even know he is doing it. This though wasn't so much a deliberate lie as an ignorant statement because I suspect he really believed it. At least at the moment his mouth was moving.

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I would question the validity of that statement. It was the Sunday Times which published the story. Circulation 712k. Times circulation 417k. The Sun has a daily readership of 9.86 million with another 29.3 million reading it online and 23.86 million check it on their phones. Murdoch is pretty subtle in appearing to promote balance whilst actually making sure which way the compass should point.

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You're conflating circulation and readership, for starters.

And Murdoch doesn't have a monopoly on US and UK media. People have a choice to what they consume. But people who don't follow your narrative are just stupid, right?