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Eaglecoops CR3 27 Feb 21 1.23pm
Originally posted by Badger11 Benteke is not worth his reported £120pw however I would have no problem offering him a contact at half that. If he didn't want to accept a pay cut his options are limited, not sure many PL clubs would pay that salary and nobody in the Championship. In Europe many of the top clubs have admitted they are in financial trouble whilst in China the era of mega pay deals now seems over. He may still get a pay day in the USA but other than that I think he will have to take a pay cut with or without us. There was lots of talk about this when his contract was extended last year and I’m sure it was reported that he accepted a reduced salary. Or Is the £120k per week the reduced salary?

Eaglecoops

CR3 27 Feb 21 1.23pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Benteke is not worth his reported £120pw however I would have no problem offering him a contact at half that.

If he didn't want to accept a pay cut his options are limited, not sure many PL clubs would pay that salary and nobody in the Championship.

In Europe many of the top clubs have admitted they are in financial trouble whilst in China the era of mega pay deals now seems over.

He may still get a pay day in the USA but other than that I think he will have to take a pay cut with or without us.

There was lots of talk about this when his contract was extended last year and I’m sure it was reported that he accepted a reduced salary. Or Is the £120k per week the reduced salary?

TheBigToePunt 27 Feb 21 1.33pm
Originally posted by Eaglecoops There was lots of talk about this when his contract was extended last year and I’m sure it was reported that he accepted a reduced salary. Or Is the £120k per week the reduced salary? Can't be true that he was on more than 120pw at any stage, surely? I'd give him 60pw plus 15 for every goal, and 10 for every assist. And a bollocking.

TheBigToePunt

27 Feb 21 1.33pm

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

There was lots of talk about this when his contract was extended last year and I’m sure it was reported that he accepted a reduced salary. Or Is the £120k per week the reduced salary?

Can't be true that he was on more than 120pw at any stage, surely?

I'd give him 60pw plus 15 for every goal, and 10 for every assist.

And a bollocking.

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 27 Feb 21 1.54pm
His salary was never reduced he is still on 120k a week, if we had offered him a reduced contract before his contract had finished he would have been entitled to a free transfer, i think parish gambled on extending it hoping that he would improve and someone would come in, now that doesn't matter because the Jan window came and went, as a free he will get more money elsewhere than the 60k we might offer. Eze is on 30K and Ayew 32.500k both are better than Benteke. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 27 Feb 21 1.54pm

His salary was never reduced he is still on 120k a week, if we had offered him a reduced contract before his contract had finished he would have been entitled to a free transfer, i think parish gambled on extending it hoping that he would improve and someone would come in, now that doesn't matter because the Jan window came and went, as a free he will get more money elsewhere than the 60k we might offer. Eze is on 30K and Ayew 32.500k both are better than Benteke.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

dreamwaverider London 27 Feb 21 2.06pm
Originally posted by TheBigToePunt Can't be true that he was on more than 120pw at any stage, surely? I'd give him 60pw plus 15 for every goal, and 10 for every assist. And a bollocking. Hahaha. I heard he settled for 60k/ wk last year. I would offer him another year at £40k/wk. If he doesn’t take it then sell him for £5m.

dreamwaverider

London 27 Feb 21 2.06pm

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

Can't be true that he was on more than 120pw at any stage, surely?

I'd give him 60pw plus 15 for every goal, and 10 for every assist.

And a bollocking.

Hahaha.
I heard he settled for 60k/ wk last year. I would offer him another year at £40k/wk. If he doesn’t take it then sell him for £5m.

dreamwaverider London 27 Feb 21 2.07pm
Footballers salaries should be public information.

dreamwaverider

London 27 Feb 21 2.07pm

Footballers salaries should be public information.

dreamwaverider London 27 Feb 21 2.10pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad His salary was never reduced he is still on 120k a week, if we had offered him a reduced contract before his contract had finished he would have been entitled to a free transfer, i think parish gambled on extending it hoping that he would improve and someone would come in, now that doesn't matter because the Jan window came and went, as a free he will get more money elsewhere than the 60k we might offer. Eze is on 30K and Ayew 32.500k both are better than Benteke. I don’t reckon he would. More like £30k/wk. Times are changing

dreamwaverider

London 27 Feb 21 2.10pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

His salary was never reduced he is still on 120k a week, if we had offered him a reduced contract before his contract had finished he would have been entitled to a free transfer, i think parish gambled on extending it hoping that he would improve and someone would come in, now that doesn't matter because the Jan window came and went, as a free he will get more money elsewhere than the 60k we might offer. Eze is on 30K and Ayew 32.500k both are better than Benteke.

I don’t reckon he would. More like £30k/wk. Times are changing

Eaglecoops CR3 27 Feb 21 2.12pm
Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad His salary was never reduced he is still on 120k a week, if we had offered him a reduced contract before his contract had finished he would have been entitled to a free transfer, i think parish gambled on extending it hoping that he would improve and someone would come in, now that doesn't matter because the Jan window came and went, as a free he will get more money elsewhere than the 60k we might offer. Eze is on 30K and Ayew 32.500k both are better than Benteke. Maybe I shouldn’t have said extended. As far as I can remember he was at the end of his current contract and we offered him a new 1 year one. There must be a thread on here somewhere that covers all this but in a brief search I couldn’t find it. I would have been amazed if a failing striker was offered £120k per week.

Eaglecoops

CR3 27 Feb 21 2.12pm

Originally posted by Lanzo-Ad

Maybe I shouldn’t have said extended. As far as I can remember he was at the end of his current contract and we offered him a new 1 year one. There must be a thread on here somewhere that covers all this but in a brief search I couldn’t find it.

I would have been amazed if a failing striker was offered £120k per week.

southnorwoodhill 27 Feb 21 2.22pm
Only Crystal Palace could extend the contract of a player who has held back potential other signings because of his original transfer fee and outrageous salary has meant the money that might have been used elsewhere has been tied up in retaining the services of a complete duffer. What other club would extend the contract of a striker who in 3 seasons had scored the grand total of 6 goals?

southnorwoodhill

27 Feb 21 2.22pm

Only Crystal Palace could extend the contract of a player who has held back potential other signings because of his original transfer fee and outrageous salary has meant the money that might have been used elsewhere has been tied up in retaining the services of a complete duffer. What other club would extend the contract of a striker who in 3 seasons had scored the grand total of 6 goals?

TheBigToePunt 27 Feb 21 3.06pm
Originally posted by dreamwaverider Hahaha. I heard he settled for 60k/ wk last year. I would offer him another year at £40k/wk. If he doesn’t take it then sell him for £5m. We can't sell him. He can go for free this summer as he's out of contract. Even if he signs a new four year deal I doubt we'd ever recoup anything much for him in terms of transfer fee now, as he is not only crap but also getting old.

TheBigToePunt

27 Feb 21 3.06pm

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Hahaha.
I heard he settled for 60k/ wk last year. I would offer him another year at £40k/wk. If he doesn’t take it then sell him for £5m.

We can't sell him. He can go for free this summer as he's out of contract.

Even if he signs a new four year deal I doubt we'd ever recoup anything much for him in terms of transfer fee now, as he is not only crap but also getting old.

Elphers40 Sunny South Coast 28 Feb 21 2.34pm
Has to go and with this being a “no brained” I just do not understand the logic of JP sitting on the bench and CB starting.

Elphers40

Sunny South Coast 28 Feb 21 2.34pm

Has to go and with this being a “no brained” I just do not understand the logic of JP sitting on the bench and CB starting.

Qwijibo Bournemouth 28 Feb 21 3.13pm
Originally posted by Elphers40 Has to go and with this being a “no brained” I just do not understand the logic of JP sitting on the bench and CB starting. Because the opposition have the ball 65% of the time and he is the only one that can vaguely hold the ball up long enough for any support to move forward.

Qwijibo

Bournemouth 28 Feb 21 3.13pm

Originally posted by Elphers40

Has to go and with this being a “no brained” I just do not understand the logic of JP sitting on the bench and CB starting.

Because the opposition have the ball 65% of the time and he is the only one that can vaguely hold the ball up long enough for any support to move forward.

Eaglehamster Storrington 28 Feb 21 5.11pm
I'd be surprised if he'd get £20K pw anywhere. We've all become immune to sheer magnitude of players' pay. Anywhere else in the world £20K pw is a fantastic amount of money. His job here was as a striker. He has failed abysmally in that role. It may not have helped him being in a Roy system but he has failed nevertheless. Everyone in football knows that. He is worthless IMV. I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

Eaglehamster

Storrington 28 Feb 21 5.11pm

I'd be surprised if he'd get £20K pw anywhere. We've all become immune to sheer magnitude of players' pay.
Anywhere else in the world £20K pw is a fantastic amount of money.

His job here was as a striker. He has failed abysmally in that role. It may not have helped him being in a Roy system but he has failed nevertheless. Everyone in football knows that. He is worthless IMV.

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

Den1923 28 Feb 21 5.30pm
Originally posted by Elphers40 Has to go and with this being a “no brained” I just do not understand the logic of JP sitting on the bench and CB starting. Is that not because if he makes 15 PL starts then we have to buy him?

Den1923

28 Feb 21 5.30pm

Originally posted by Elphers40

Has to go and with this being a “no brained” I just do not understand the logic of JP sitting on the bench and CB starting.

Is that not because if he makes 15 PL starts then we have to buy him?

TheBigToePunt 28 Feb 21 5.45pm
Originally posted by Qwijibo Because the opposition have the ball 65% of the time and he is the only one that can vaguely hold the ball up long enough for any support to move forward. That's certainly the theory, and is probably why he started today ahead of Mateta, and why he stayed on the pitch throughout. Thing is, watching him fail to attack a steady stream of crosses from Townsend (which admittedly doesn't happen every week) just felt like the last straw. But there have been so many last straws now that I've lost count. Two final points. Firstly, arsenal were expected to release the walking comedy show that is David Luiz at the end of last season, especially after he'd in thrown one of his clown routines at Man City. They didn't though, they kept him even though it seemed that anyone else would be better. Even an overpaid, underperforming joke of a player must be retained unless your can certainly get a better one, or at least a cheaper one who is no worse. That rule doesn't just apply to us. Second, and on a different topic, if Bentekes last contract extension was with one eye on preserving his value as an asset we could sell, that surely will not be a factor this summer? He is not only still crap, but another year older and the world of football will have far less money to throw around now.

TheBigToePunt

28 Feb 21 5.45pm

Originally posted by Qwijibo

Because the opposition have the ball 65% of the time and he is the only one that can vaguely hold the ball up long enough for any support to move forward.

That's certainly the theory, and is probably why he started today ahead of Mateta, and why he stayed on the pitch throughout.

Thing is, watching him fail to attack a steady stream of crosses from Townsend (which admittedly doesn't happen every week) just felt like the last straw. But there have been so many last straws now that I've lost count.

Two final points. Firstly, arsenal were expected to release the walking comedy show that is David Luiz at the end of last season, especially after he'd in thrown one of his clown routines at Man City. They didn't though, they kept him even though it seemed that anyone else would be better. Even an overpaid, underperforming joke of a player must be retained unless your can certainly get a better one, or at least a cheaper one who is no worse. That rule doesn't just apply to us.

Second, and on a different topic, if Bentekes last contract extension was with one eye on preserving his value as an asset we could sell, that surely will not be a factor this summer? He is not only still crap, but another year older and the world of football will have far less money to throw around now.

Teddy Eagle 28 Feb 21 5.47pm
Originally posted by Eaglehamster I'd be surprised if he'd get £20K pw anywhere. We've all become immune to sheer magnitude of players' pay. Anywhere else in the world £20K pw is a fantastic amount of money. His job here was as a striker. He has failed abysmally in that role. It may not have helped him being in a Roy system but he has failed nevertheless. Everyone in football knows that. He is worthless IMV. You’re absolutely right. £20,000 a week is equivalent to 3 lottery wins by the age of 32 but there are players getting many times that much. If a million pounds a year isn’t enough then get another job that pays more.

Teddy Eagle

28 Feb 21 5.47pm

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

I'd be surprised if he'd get £20K pw anywhere. We've all become immune to sheer magnitude of players' pay.
Anywhere else in the world £20K pw is a fantastic amount of money.

You’re absolutely right.
£20,000 a week is equivalent to 3 lottery wins by the age of 32 but there are players getting many times that much.
If a million pounds a year isn’t enough then get another job that pays more.

PatrickA London 28 Feb 21 5.53pm
Hodgson said at the post match press conference that Benteke had done ‘an excellent job’ for the team and was selected ahead of Mateta for his defensive qualities. This, along with the substitution of an attacking midfield player by a defensive midfield player says it all really. Originally posted by Qwijibo Because the opposition have the ball 65% of the time and he is the only one that can vaguely hold the ball up long enough for any support to move forward.

PatrickA

London 28 Feb 21 5.53pm

Hodgson said at the post match press conference that Benteke had done ‘an excellent job’ for the team and was selected ahead of Mateta for his defensive qualities.
This, along with the substitution of an attacking midfield player by a defensive midfield player says it all really.

Originally posted by Qwijibo

Because the opposition have the ball 65% of the time and he is the only one that can vaguely hold the ball up long enough for any support to move forward.

Eaglehamster Storrington 28 Feb 21 5.58pm
Originally posted by PatrickA Hodgson said at the post match press conference that Benteke had done ‘an excellent job’ for the team and was selected ahead of Mateta for his defensive qualities. This, along with the substitution of an attacking midfield player by a defensive midfield player says it all really. After reading this, any remaining doubts about Roy have been resolved in my mind. I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

Eaglehamster

Storrington 28 Feb 21 5.58pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

After reading this, any remaining doubts about Roy have been resolved in my mind.

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

palace99 New Mills 01 Mar 21 9.44am
Originally posted by TheBigToePunt That's certainly the theory, and is probably why he started today ahead of Mateta, and why he stayed on the pitch throughout. Thing is, watching him fail to attack a steady stream of crosses from Townsend (which admittedly doesn't happen every week) just felt like the last straw. But there have been so many last straws now that I've lost count. Two final points. Firstly, arsenal were expected to release the walking comedy show that is David Luiz at the end of last season, especially after he'd in thrown one of his clown routines at Man City. They didn't though, they kept him even though it seemed that anyone else would be better. Even an overpaid, underperforming joke of a player must be retained unless your can certainly get a better one, or at least a cheaper one who is no worse. That rule doesn't just apply to us. Second, and on a different topic, if Bentekes last contract extension was with one eye on preserving his value as an asset we could sell, that surely will not be a factor this summer? He is not only still crap, but another year older and the world of football will have far less money to throw around now. Yes , good points. Andros did ok yesterday but Tekkers lack of movement and desire to even try and get on the end of cross was so obvious - Hughes mentioned it on BBC at half time but it's been discussed for over 3 years now so clearly nothing is going to change. Did you see the WBA goal v Man U a few weeks back. The striker was behind the defender but muscled in front of him at the last minute to head his goal - other than 1st season Tekkers just hasn't tried to do this. Now in his 30s and on high wages and 4 years of poor performances and goals his resale value will be zero even if under contract. IMHO David Luiz is much improved this season!!

palace99

New Mills 01 Mar 21 9.44am

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

That's certainly the theory, and is probably why he started today ahead of Mateta, and why he stayed on the pitch throughout.

Yes , good points. Andros did ok yesterday but Tekkers lack of movement and desire to even try and get on the end of cross was so obvious - Hughes mentioned it on BBC at half time but it's been discussed for over 3 years now so clearly nothing is going to change.
Did you see the WBA goal v Man U a few weeks back. The striker was behind the defender but muscled in front of him at the last minute to head his goal - other than 1st season Tekkers just hasn't tried to do this.
Now in his 30s and on high wages and 4 years of poor performances and goals his resale value will be zero even if under contract.
IMHO David Luiz is much improved this season!!

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Mar 21 9.50am
Originally posted by palace99 Yes , good points. Andros did ok yesterday but Tekkers lack of movement and desire to even try and get on the end of cross was so obvious - Hughes mentioned it on BBC at half time but it's been discussed for over 3 years now so clearly nothing is going to change. Did you see the WBA goal v Man U a few weeks back. The striker was behind the defender but muscled in front of him at the last minute to head his goal - other than 1st season Tekkers just hasn't tried to do this. Now in his 30s and on high wages and 4 years of poor performances and goals his resale value will be zero even if under contract. IMHO David Luiz is much improved this season!! Benteke is not one to make darts to the near post to get on the end of a cross, he waits at the far post as we witnessed against Brighton! Giroud and Cavani attack the near-post.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 01 Mar 21 9.50am

Originally posted by palace99

Benteke is not one to make darts to the near post to get on the end of a cross, he waits at the far post as we witnessed against Brighton!
Giroud and Cavani attack the near-post.

Fatherken 01 Mar 21 9.59am
all we need then is a player who attacks the near post job done

Fatherken

01 Mar 21 9.59am

all we need then is a player who attacks the near post job done

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