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Mwncisee Middlesbrough 06 Jul 21 3.37pm
I think people may have to temper their expectations, especially with regards to the number of signings. I feel people on here band around numbers they think we need that are a way off what the club will realistically be able to achieve and are then despondent when that number is not achieved. I cannot see the club brining any more than 5 new playing staff into the club at an absolute maximum. More likely three. Pressure will then be put on PV to fill the gaps in the squad with players that have come through the clubs academy/development squad.

Mwncisee

Middlesbrough 06 Jul 21 3.37pm

I think people may have to temper their expectations, especially with regards to the number of signings. I feel people on here band around numbers they think we need that are a way off what the club will realistically be able to achieve and are then despondent when that number is not achieved.

I cannot see the club brining any more than 5 new playing staff into the club at an absolute maximum. More likely three. Pressure will then be put on PV to fill the gaps in the squad with players that have come through the clubs academy/development squad.

Eaglehamster Storrington 06 Jul 21 4.02pm
I really hope PV recognises and encourages talent from the academy. Roy was a bit reticent in this I think. 2 or 3 useful and enthusiastic recruits from there could make a big difference. I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

Eaglehamster

Storrington 06 Jul 21 4.02pm

I really hope PV recognises and encourages talent from the academy. Roy was a bit reticent in this I think.

2 or 3 useful and enthusiastic recruits from there could make a big difference.

I have now sufficient funds to last me the rest of my life. Provided I don't buy anything.

est1905 06 Jul 21 5.19pm
Originally posted by Sansbup I'm surprised there is significant negativity concerning PV's appointment and prospects of success. He was a top top player, by all accounts a respected coach and has some management experience. But I suppose some of you can potentially say "I told you so" in due course, so I hope that's some comfort for you. Personally I'm excited to see where we are by Christmas and if we're bottom then I'll eat humble pie. I wonder if the naysayers will do the same if he's a success? 1. He is NOT a respected coach....yet. 2. He has very very little management experience. 3. Being a 'top top' player means absolutely nothing. The best players very rarely make the best managers. That said, I want him to be a success as much as anyone. But then there is the risk he might be a massive success and Arteta gets the boot. I think we all know what will happen then dont we!

est1905

06 Jul 21 5.19pm

Originally posted by Sansbup

I'm surprised there is significant negativity concerning PV's appointment and prospects of success. He was a top top player, by all accounts a respected coach and has some management experience.

But I suppose some of you can potentially say "I told you so" in due course, so I hope that's some comfort for you.

Personally I'm excited to see where we are by Christmas and if we're bottom then I'll eat humble pie. I wonder if the naysayers will do the same if he's a success?

1. He is NOT a respected coach....yet.
2. He has very very little management experience.
3. Being a 'top top' player means absolutely nothing. The best players very rarely make the best managers.
That said, I want him to be a success as much as anyone. But then there is the risk he might be a massive success and Arteta gets the boot. I think we all know what will happen then dont we!

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 06 Jul 21 5.33pm
Originally posted by est1905 1. He is NOT a respected coach....yet. 2. He has very very little management experience. 3. Being a 'top top' player means absolutely nothing. The best players very rarely make the best managers. That said, I want him to be a success as much as anyone. But then there is the risk he might be a massive success and Arteta gets the boot. I think we all know what will happen then dont we! Good summation I think. I'm looking at point 1. as a positive - he has everything to prove. Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 06 Jul 21 5.33pm

Originally posted by est1905

Good summation I think.

I'm looking at point 1. as a positive - he has everything to prove.

Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 06 Jul 21 5.41pm
Originally posted by Willo If Vieira proves to be a success, I suspect other clubs higher in the 'Food chain' will come calling if they wish to replace their managers. On a general point, had the club appointed Lampard,Dyche,Favre,Nuno, HOL would be awash with excitement and there would have been a real sense of optimism.I don't sense these emotions at the present time. Edited by Willo (06 Jul 2021 1.38pm) Not in my case. They all had their plus points but also their negatives. I think PV is a bold appointment and with risk comes excitement. Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 06 Jul 21 5.41pm

Originally posted by Willo

If Vieira proves to be a success, I suspect other clubs higher in the 'Food chain' will come calling if they wish to replace their managers.

On a general point, had the club appointed Lampard,Dyche,Favre,Nuno, HOL would be awash with excitement and there would have been a real sense of optimism.I don't sense these emotions at the present time.

Edited by Willo (06 Jul 2021 1.38pm)

Not in my case. They all had their plus points but also their negatives.

I think PV is a bold appointment and with risk comes excitement.

Old, Ungifted and White

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 06 Jul 21 5.46pm
Originally posted by Knightstar I think Vieira will prove to be a good choice. He was a World-class player and has some useful managerial experience and will have gained from his time at City under Mancini. I also think the out of contract situation isn't that bad if we can get Townsend, Ward and Cahill on extensions. That would give us a squad of 19 if I've counted right and then we need to buy or loan the following: 1 x RB (as 1st choice prior to Ferguson return) 2 x CH (to be groomed alongside Tompkins/Cahill) 1 x DM (box to box in the PV mould) 1 x AM (to cover for Eze until he returns) 1 x RW (as 1st choice with Andros as backup) This should all be doable and all the talk of relegation should cease. Come on, be positive! COYP! Townsend/Cahill NOT resigning, according to rumours. RB, you wouldn't resign Ward/Clyne? IMHO, Ferguson will NEVER play for us in the EPL. Woods & RB-H are looking very god from the youth teams. Rak-Sakyi is about(hopefully) to be added to the 1st team squad That's 5 of your 6 required. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 06 Jul 21 5.46pm

Originally posted by Knightstar

I think Vieira will prove to be a good choice. He was a World-class player and has some useful managerial experience and will have gained from his time at City under Mancini.
I also think the out of contract situation isn't that bad if we can get Townsend, Ward and Cahill on extensions. That would give us a squad of 19 if I've counted right and then we need to buy or loan the following:
1 x RB (as 1st choice prior to Ferguson return)
2 x CH (to be groomed alongside Tompkins/Cahill)
1 x DM (box to box in the PV mould)
1 x AM (to cover for Eze until he returns)
1 x RW (as 1st choice with Andros as backup)

This should all be doable and all the talk of relegation should cease. Come on, be positive!

COYP!

Townsend/Cahill NOT resigning, according to rumours.
RB, you wouldn't resign Ward/Clyne? IMHO, Ferguson will NEVER play for us in the EPL.
Woods & RB-H are looking very god from the youth teams. Rak-Sakyi is about(hopefully) to be added to the 1st team squad
That's 5 of your 6 required.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

djmikeyp 06 Jul 21 6.15pm
It's great to see the smiling faces in the photos coming out of Vieira's first sessions. It might be a simplistic view, but our team always seems to play at its best when the players appear happy,rather than looking in despair because they're a goal behind. A positive attitude can go a huge way to overcoming any perceived inferiority when playing against so-called bigger teams.

djmikeyp

06 Jul 21 6.15pm

It's great to see the smiling faces in the photos coming out of Vieira's first sessions. It might be a simplistic view, but our team always seems to play at its best when the players appear happy,rather than looking in despair because they're a goal behind. A positive attitude can go a huge way to overcoming any perceived inferiority when playing against so-called bigger teams.

ex hibitionist Hastings 06 Jul 21 6.31pm
Now he's here and he's made a few noises I am personally very pleased, hopeful and optimistic. He has a great pedigree having gone through the Man City set up, he did well for two full seasons at Nice, there are always negative aspects, he is clearly no mug, there is a good set up in place and I have every confidence that he'll be able to make the changes he needs game by game to get results we need. It shows how far we've come that so many of us can feel trepidation at having as manager someone of the calibre of Patrick Vieira.

ex hibitionist

Hastings 06 Jul 21 6.31pm

Now he's here and he's made a few noises I am personally very pleased, hopeful and optimistic. He has a great pedigree having gone through the Man City set up, he did well for two full seasons at Nice, there are always negative aspects, he is clearly no mug, there is a good set up in place and I have every confidence that he'll be able to make the changes he needs game by game to get results we need. It shows how far we've come that so many of us can feel trepidation at having as manager someone of the calibre of Patrick Vieira.

Putitout Oxford 06 Jul 21 6.56pm
Viera, talks of bringing players to the club in his interview, it does look as if this is definitely the plan. It begins to look more and more as if it’s out with the old and in with the young. If it’s true that Cahill , will be off with Sako, and Dann, then we really could do with a quality central defender young or not so young to come in. Should be interesting seeing what comes to pass.

Putitout

Oxford 06 Jul 21 6.56pm

Viera, talks of bringing players to the club in his interview, it does look as if this is definitely the plan. It begins to look more and more as if it’s out with the old and in with the young. If it’s true that Cahill , will be off with Sako, and Dann, then we really could do with a quality central defender young or not so young to come in.
Should be interesting seeing what comes to pass.

ambrose7 Croydon 06 Jul 21 7.28pm
Originally posted by eagleman13 Townsend/Cahill NOT resigning, according to rumours. RB, you wouldn't resign Ward/Clyne? IMHO, Ferguson will NEVER play for us in the EPL. Woods & RB-H are looking very god from the youth teams. Rak-Sakyi is about(hopefully) to be added to the 1st team squad That's 5 of your 6 required. Am I right in thinking your team would be something like: Guaita Ward Tomkins Kelly Mitchell Ayew McArthur Luka Zaha Benteke Mateta? That looks really weak - it needs signings to genuinely impact the starting 11. We released Sam Woods. Rak-Sakyi isn't at the standard yet either, way too lightweight - evident just by watching U23 football let alone Premier League, and not good enough to get around that David Silva style. Looking forward to seeing who we can get - we can offer genuine first team football which has to be attractive. 26th January 2010 - Enter Administration 2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough 1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds 7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.

ambrose7

Croydon 06 Jul 21 7.28pm

Originally posted by eagleman13

Am I right in thinking your team would be something like:

Guaita
Ward
Tomkins
Kelly
Mitchell
Ayew
McArthur
Luka
Zaha
Benteke
Mateta?

That looks really weak - it needs signings to genuinely impact the starting 11.

We released Sam Woods. Rak-Sakyi isn't at the standard yet either, way too lightweight - evident just by watching U23 football let alone Premier League, and not good enough to get around that David Silva style.

Looking forward to seeing who we can get - we can offer genuine first team football which has to be attractive.

26th January 2010 - Enter Administration
2nd May 2010 - D-Day 1 - Survival at Hillsborough
1st June 2010 - D-Day 2 - Survival at Lloyds
7th June 2010 - CPFC2010 exchange contracts.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Jul 21 7.34pm
Has he changed his mind yet? COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 06 Jul 21 7.34pm

Has he changed his mind yet?

COYP

sprites Auckland 06 Jul 21 7.36pm
Originally posted by ambrose7 Am I right in thinking your team would be something like: Guaita Ward Tomkins Kelly Mitchell Ayew McArthur Luka Zaha Benteke Mateta? That looks really weak - it needs signings to genuinely impact the starting 11. We released Sam Woods. Rak-Sakyi isn't at the standard yet either, way too lightweight - evident just by watching U23 football let alone Premier League, and not good enough to get around that David Silva style. Looking forward to seeing who we can get - we can offer genuine first team football which has to be attractive. That’s not actually that weak a team.

sprites

Auckland 06 Jul 21 7.36pm

Originally posted by ambrose7

Am I right in thinking your team would be something like:

Guaita
Ward
Tomkins
Kelly
Mitchell
Ayew
McArthur
Luka
Zaha
Benteke
Mateta?

That looks really weak - it needs signings to genuinely impact the starting 11.

Looking forward to seeing who we can get - we can offer genuine first team football which has to be attractive.

That’s not actually that weak a team.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 06 Jul 21 7.42pm
Originally posted by Canterbury Palace Vieira wasn't one of my top choices but I'm quite intrigued to see what he brings to the table now he's here and, specifically, the type of players and style of football that he goes for. The last couple of years have been all about safety, both in terms of supporting Palace and life in general. I'm definitely ready for a change, taking a few risks and the excitement that brings. Cannot wait to get back to Selhurst and get a few beers down me. Probably more chance of us making top 4 than beers being organised properly at selhurst for the start of the season. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 06 Jul 21 7.42pm

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

Vieira wasn't one of my top choices but I'm quite intrigued to see what he brings to the table now he's here and, specifically, the type of players and style of football that he goes for.

The last couple of years have been all about safety, both in terms of supporting Palace and life in general. I'm definitely ready for a change, taking a few risks and the excitement that brings.

Cannot wait to get back to Selhurst and get a few beers down me.

Probably more chance of us making top 4 than beers being organised properly at selhurst for the start of the season.

COYP

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 06 Jul 21 7.49pm
Originally posted by ambrose7 Am I right in thinking your team would be something like: Guaita Ward Tomkins Kelly Mitchell Ayew McArthur Luka Zaha Benteke Mateta? That looks really weak - it needs signings to genuinely impact the starting 11. We released Sam Woods. Rak-Sakyi isn't at the standard yet either, way too lightweight - evident just by watching U23 football let alone Premier League, and not good enough to get around that David Silva style. Looking forward to seeing who we can get - we can offer genuine first team football which has to be attractive. MY team, NO, just replying to an earlier post. Disagree with R-S, he's been added to the 1st team squad. If you don't play them, you will never know, bit like our manager. This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 06 Jul 21 7.49pm

Originally posted by ambrose7

Am I right in thinking your team would be something like:

Guaita
Ward
Tomkins
Kelly
Mitchell
Ayew
McArthur
Luka
Zaha
Benteke
Mateta?

That looks really weak - it needs signings to genuinely impact the starting 11.

Looking forward to seeing who we can get - we can offer genuine first team football which has to be attractive.

MY team, NO, just replying to an earlier post.
Disagree with R-S, he's been added to the 1st team squad. If you don't play them, you will never know, bit like our manager.

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Plaistow Eagle 06 Jul 21 8.16pm
X Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle I’m with you IMO great appointment - really excited....!! As you have outlined an absolute winner - also played under Wenger, coached under Guardiola - two of the greatest Managers of the last two decades..!! Also thought he came across very well as a pundit in the Euros - talked a lot of sense..!! There’s no way he’d come to Palace unless he thought/knew he would/was going to be backed in terms of investment. Viera is not just a Premier League star he’s a global star..!! I just don’t understand some of the negative comments on here - moaning no Manager being appointed - then one is who is a massive name - still moaning. Just no pleasing some folk..!! Come on PV let’s now start getting in some exciting young talent - starting with Micheal Olise - also French so with PV now as Manager must give us a good chance..!! Come on Viera...!! COYP OMG...!! What did I say Micheal Olise..!! Come on Viera; [Link] If this is true, this is an unbelievable signing..!! This boy is unreal; [Link] What a front line; Eze, Zaha, Olise, Tekkers..!! I’m hyperventilating need to go and lie down..!! Come on Viera...!! COYP

Plaistow Eagle

06 Jul 21 8.16pm

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

I’m with you IMO great appointment - really excited....!!

As you have outlined an absolute winner - also played under Wenger, coached under Guardiola - two of the greatest Managers of the last two decades..!!

Also thought he came across very well as a pundit in the Euros - talked a lot of sense..!!

There’s no way he’d come to Palace unless he thought/knew he would/was going to be backed in terms of investment.

Viera is not just a Premier League star he’s a global star..!!

I just don’t understand some of the negative comments on here - moaning no Manager being appointed - then one is who is a massive name - still moaning. Just no pleasing some folk..!!

Come on PV let’s now start getting in some exciting young talent - starting with Micheal Olise - also French so with PV now as Manager must give us a good chance..!!

Come on Viera...!!

COYP

OMG...!!

What did I say Micheal Olise..!! Come on Viera;

[Link]

If this is true, this is an unbelievable signing..!!

This boy is unreal;

[Link]

What a front line; Eze, Zaha, Olise, Tekkers..!!

I’m hyperventilating need to go and lie down..!!

Come on Viera...!!

COYP

ex hibitionist Hastings 06 Jul 21 11.05pm
Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle X OMG...!! What did I say Micheal Olise..!! Come on Viera; [Link] If this is true, this is an unbelievable signing..!! This boy is unreal; [Link] What a front line; Eze, Zaha, Olise, Tekkers..!! I’m hyperventilating need to go and lie down..!! Come on Viera...!! COYP have you been talking to Dazza?

ex hibitionist

Hastings 06 Jul 21 11.05pm

Originally posted by Plaistow Eagle

OMG...!!

What did I say Micheal Olise..!! Come on Viera;

[Link]

If this is true, this is an unbelievable signing..!!

This boy is unreal;

[Link]

What a front line; Eze, Zaha, Olise, Tekkers..!!

I’m hyperventilating need to go and lie down..!!

Come on Viera...!!

COYP

have you been talking to Dazza?

ItsCPFCforme 07 Jul 21 1.01am
Originally posted by est1905 1. He is NOT a respected coach....yet. 2. He has very very little management experience. 3. Being a 'top top' player means absolutely nothing. The best players very rarely make the best managers. That said, I want him to be a success as much as anyone. But then there is the risk he might be a massive success and Arteta gets the boot. I think we all know what will happen then dont we! He has been coaching for approaching ten years now and has already managed with moderate success at New York and Nice. He is not a total novice I don’t know why people keep repeating this mantra.

ItsCPFCforme

07 Jul 21 1.01am

Originally posted by est1905

He has been coaching for approaching ten years now and has already managed with moderate success at New York and Nice. He is not a total novice I don’t know why people keep repeating this mantra.

dreamwaverider London 07 Jul 21 4.55am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman Probably more chance of us making top 4 than beers being organised properly at selhurst for the start of the season. Beers not being right at Selhurst sums up Palace. They have little organisational ability to deliver simple things properly. They are far too tight. The same for the new website which still struggles and this website too is very slow. The customer experience at Palace is poor and little is done to change it. Same with the squad management and players deal , tactics transfer policies and team performance. But now Vieira has arrived and is already making some very interesting noises. This guy was a top global star winning the World Cup with France. Maybe he is th messiah to show a New way forwards. A simpler easier way both on and off the pitchfork. So good luck Pat. Show us the way. Inspire the club both on and off the pitch. It’s long overdue. Give the ball a big kick and I think we may all be very happily surprised Bon chance mon brave.

dreamwaverider

London 07 Jul 21 4.55am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Probably more chance of us making top 4 than beers being organised properly at selhurst for the start of the season.

Beers not being right at Selhurst sums up Palace. They have little organisational ability to deliver simple things properly. They are far too tight. The same for the new website which still struggles and this website too is very slow. The customer experience at Palace is poor and little is done to change it. Same with the squad management and players deal , tactics transfer policies and team performance.
But now Vieira has arrived and is already making some very interesting noises. This guy was a top global star winning the World Cup with France. Maybe he is th messiah to show a New way forwards. A simpler easier way both on and off the pitchfork.
So good luck Pat. Show us the way. Inspire the club both on and off the pitch. It’s long overdue. Give the ball a big kick and I think we may all be very happily surprised Bon chance mon brave.

Midlands Eagle 07 Jul 21 6.19am
Originally posted by Willo On a general point, had the club appointed Lampard,Dyche,Favre,Nuno, HOL would be awash with excitement and there would have been a real sense of optimism.I don't sense these emotions at the present time. Do you actually read what others post on HOL or are you confusing us with "the few supporters who you have spoken to outside of this forum who you claim are underwhelmed at the appointment of Vieira." For your information HOL (which you may have forgotten are ALL Palace fans) were decidedly underwhelmed at the prospect of hiring Lampard or Dyche and also had reservations about Nuno and Favre

Midlands Eagle

07 Jul 21 6.19am

Originally posted by Willo

Do you actually read what others post on HOL or are you confusing us with "the few supporters who you have spoken to outside of this forum who you claim are underwhelmed at the appointment of Vieira."

For your information HOL (which you may have forgotten are ALL Palace fans) were decidedly underwhelmed at the prospect of hiring Lampard or Dyche and also had reservations about Nuno and Favre

crystal-purley Purley 07 Jul 21 7.44am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Do you actually read what others post on HOL or are you confusing us with "the few supporters who you have spoken to outside of this forum who you claim are underwhelmed at the appointment of Vieira." For your information HOL (which you may have forgotten are ALL Palace fans) were decidedly underwhelmed at the prospect of hiring Lampard or Dyche and also had reservations about Nuno and Favre Agreed. Favre would have been my first choice but . . . There seems to be more positivity than I would have expected especially with what seems to be a lack of money. Pat seems a good choice and I believe will be a success for us. Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

crystal-purley

Purley 07 Jul 21 7.44am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

For your information HOL (which you may have forgotten are ALL Palace fans) were decidedly underwhelmed at the prospect of hiring Lampard or Dyche and also had reservations about Nuno and Favre

Agreed. Favre would have been my first choice but
. . .
There seems to be more positivity than I would have expected especially with what seems to be a lack of money. Pat seems a good choice and I believe will be a success for us.

Enjoying getting up later and not having someone who knows better than me (apart from the missus of course).

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