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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 18 Jul 22 9.55am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

That is so spot on it dazed me momentarily.

It is difficult to envisage anyone less suited to leading this country. Keith Vaz? Peter Bone?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jul 22 10.16am Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

So now your saying that by having the power to elect the new PM that they would do it in our best interests. I think this is wrong as it could be about who’s who’s and best ‘mates’. The members don’t have that relationship so nepotism cannot be a factor.

We are talking about Parliament being sovereign. Who leads the Government is secondary to that.

Parliament is charged with the duty of acting in our best interests. Being cynical about how individual members might exercise that responsibility doesn't change that.

Any PM chosen in the circumstances I have described would necessarily have been an interim one, whose primary task would have been to oversee the holding of a confirmation vote. Should that have returned a reversal of the 2016 decision, as I expect and the Brexiteers feared, then our withdrawal would have been suspended, and the Parties would have fought a GE on a different basis. Knowing the situation, the EU would almost certainly have then offered conciliatory terms, which both parties, or large parts of both parties, would have endorsed.

We may well have ended up with a coalition, who knows, but the interim PM would be PM no longer.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Jul 22 10.35am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We are talking about Parliament being sovereign. Who leads the Government is secondary to that.

Parliament is charged with the duty of acting in our best interests. Being cynical about how individual members might exercise that responsibility doesn't change that.

Any PM chosen in the circumstances I have described would necessarily have been an interim one, whose primary task would have been to oversee the holding of a confirmation vote. Should that have returned a reversal of the 2016 decision, as I expect and the Brexiteers feared, then our withdrawal would have been suspended, and the Parties would have fought a GE on a different basis. Knowing the situation, the EU would almost certainly have then offered conciliatory terms, which both parties, or large parts of both parties, would have endorsed.

We may well have ended up with a coalition, who knows, but the interim PM would be PM no longer.

Wrong thread but the EU don’t not appear to want to offer conciliatory terms even now!

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 18 Jul 22 11.15am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I think the leadership should be treated as a game of shag, marry, avoid.
I'm somewhere between all three on Penny.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 18 Jul 22 11.43am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

'Tory leadership TV debate shelved amid infighting concerns'.

It's too much for Sky viewers.

And me.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 18 Jul 22 12.15pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

I don't agree with Cryst on much out side football, but his point seemed common sense. He wasn't doffing cap to the toffs. I think he was saying that those who come from senior management will have had a better understanding of nation management. I am self employed and experience stress in my job, but I know I could not cope with the relentless 24/7 of front bench politics. Tony Blaire aged about 40 years on the job.

Senior Management eh? So how many PLC CEO jobs lie with old Etonians? I believe those days are rapidly going mate, now that City people no longer have to wear their old school tie every Friday (yes, that was a thing).

I just looked up the top 3, 2 of which are run by people from overseas. The third is run by someone who went to Birmingham Polytechnic.

Some people on here really do live in the past.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 18 Jul 22 12.22pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Senior Management eh? So how many PLC CEO jobs lie with old Etonians? I believe those days are rapidly going mate, now that City people no longer have to wear their old school tie every Friday (yes, that was a thing).

I just looked up the top 3, 2 of which are run by people from overseas. The third is run by someone who went to Birmingham Polytechnic.

Some people on here really do live in the past.

Maybe the future looks a bit too bleak !

 

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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 18 Jul 22 8.17pm

Originally posted by Nicholas91

That is so spot on it dazed me momentarily.

I thank you!

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 18 Jul 22 10.01pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Wrong thread but the EU don’t not appear to want to offer conciliatory terms even now!

Are you surprised? Whilst we had a two faced PM determined to "get Brexit done" with an "oven ready deal", what was there for them to be conciliatory about?

Deals have to work for both sides.

 


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View YT's Profile YT Online Flag Oxford 18 Jul 22 10.49pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We are talking about Parliament being sovereign. Who leads the Government is secondary to that.

Parliament is charged with the duty of acting in our best interests. Being cynical about how individual members might exercise that responsibility doesn't change that.

Any PM chosen in the circumstances I have described would necessarily have been an interim one, whose primary task would have been to oversee the holding of a confirmation vote. Should that have returned a reversal of the 2016 decision, as I expect and the Brexiteers feared, then our withdrawal would have been suspended, and the Parties would have fought a GE on a different basis. Knowing the situation, the EU would almost certainly have then offered conciliatory terms, which both parties, or large parts of both parties, would have endorsed.

We may well have ended up with a coalition, who knows, but the interim PM would be PM no longer.

Charged by whom?

 


Palace since 19 August 1972. Palace 1 (Tony Taylor) Liverpool 1 (Emlyn Hughes)

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 18 Jul 22 11.01pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by YT

Charged by whom?

originally ? it was a Cavalry Charge....Oliver Cromwell.

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 18 Jul 22 11.18pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I think the leadership should be treated as a game of shag, marry, avoid.
I'm somewhere between all three on Penny.

Would.

I think

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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