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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 20 Jul 22 2.34pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Johnson signs off at PMQs with 'hasta la vista baby'.

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Well, I suspect my views are at variance with yours Stirling, but I watched PMQs earlier and Boris stands head and shoulders above the contestants for his job in the way he deals with the questions.

The odd thing is, judging by the reception he received at the end, that he would appear to be the more popular as a leader and I suspect if he were to be included in the race, he would win.

What some of his 'colleagues' and the media did to bring about his downfall is a tragedy.

 


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Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Well, I suspect my views are at variance with yours Stirling, but I watched PMQs earlier and Boris stands head and shoulders above the contestants for his job in the way he deals with the questions.

The odd thing is, judging by the reception he received at the end, that he would appear to be the more popular as a leader and I suspect if he were to be included in the race, he would win.

What some of his 'colleagues' and the media did to bring about his downfall is a tragedy.

Watched it too, thought he was quite funny today. Again Starmer said nothing and Blackford is just a clown.
Boris describing Starmer as a “useless human bollard” was a classic.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jul 22 2.54pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Well, I suspect my views are at variance with yours Stirling, but I watched PMQs earlier and Boris stands head and shoulders above the contestants for his job in the way he deals with the questions.

The odd thing is, judging by the reception he received at the end, that he would appear to be the more popular as a leader and I suspect if he were to be included in the race, he would win.

What some of his 'colleagues' and the media did to bring about his downfall is a tragedy.

For star quality and for his debating skills Johnson wipes the floor with all of the candidates.

However there are many valid criticisms made of Johnson that are also true...not withstanding those that might come from my wing of conservatism, which takes a pretty dim view of their 'cap in hand' WEF globalism and support for woke social liberalism.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jul 2022 2.54pm)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jul 22 4.15pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

As predicted Sunak and Truss are into the final two.

You will get mid wit Truss as the new PM.

Edited by Stirlingsays (20 Jul 2022 4.16pm)

 


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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 20 Jul 22 4.25pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Well, I suspect my views are at variance with yours Stirling, but I watched PMQs earlier and Boris stands head and shoulders above the contestants for his job in the way he deals with the questions.

The odd thing is, judging by the reception he received at the end, that he would appear to be the more popular as a leader and I suspect if he were to be included in the race, he would win.

What some of his 'colleagues' and the media did to bring about his downfall is a tragedy.

And what you fail to understand is that he is an affable after dinner speaker and deliverer of clever bon mots, so will always garner popular (and populist) support.

However, he was always faking it as a statesman. He lacked both acumen and presence and was kept under tight wrap by his minders who always knew his severe limitations.

He got found out. And if you are genuinely labouring under a delusion that it woz the media wot dunnit, quite frankly you must be joking. They only reported what they saw, including the Tory press barons who realised that he had become a liability for both party and country.

The only tragedies are that:

a. It took them that long; and
b. In Truss, he may actually be replaced by someone who is even less able; but with any hint of electable charm long eroded (if it were ever there?).

This is the biggest shot in the foot by the Tories since Hague.

 

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View daven's Profile daven Flag Hailsham 20 Jul 22 4.33pm Send a Private Message to daven Add daven as a friend

Quite fitting that PM4PM should end at 4pm

 

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View Palace Old Geezer's Profile Palace Old Geezer Flag Midhurst 20 Jul 22 4.55pm Send a Private Message to Palace Old Geezer Add Palace Old Geezer as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

And what you fail to understand is that he is an affable after dinner speaker and deliverer of clever bon mots, so will always garner popular (and populist) support.

However, he was always faking it as a statesman. He lacked both acumen and presence and was kept under tight wrap by his minders who always knew his severe limitations.

He got found out. And if you are genuinely labouring under a delusion that it woz the media wot dunnit, quite frankly you must be joking. They only reported what they saw, including the Tory press barons who realised that he had become a liability for both party and country.

The only tragedies are that:

a. It took them that long; and
b. In Truss, he may actually be replaced by someone who is even less able; but with any hint of electable charm long eroded (if it were ever there?).

This is the biggest shot in the foot by the Tories since Hague.

Thing is silver, the Tories won the last election with a huge majority largely because of Boris.

I don't deny he became a liability, but the quality of those likely to replace him doesn't look at all encouraging.

 


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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Jul 22 5.10pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Thing is silver, the Tories won the last election with a huge majority largely because of Boris.

I don't deny he became a liability, but the quality of those likely to replace him doesn't look at all encouraging.

True and tbh lefty’s cheering his demise might want to look away now. I do hope the younger generation believing a bit of socialism is good get what’s coming to them. It normally takes about 6 years of it for the penny to drop. Roll on 2024.
I will not be affected I would hope but geez is a good dose of reality on its way

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 20 Jul 22 5.18pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by Palace Old Geezer

Thing is silver, the Tories won the last election with a huge majority largely because of Boris.

I don't deny he became a liability, but the quality of those likely to replace him doesn't look at all encouraging.


The Tories won the last election based on the reality that almost everybody else on offer wanted to reverse the Brexit result. That was is.

Get Brexit Done.

Yes, Boris has the special sauce. Without a shadow of a doubt. But the man is simply not of a quality you need in a Prime Minister.

Not that I have any faith in either Sunak nor Truss. And with the alternatives in a man like Starmer, or a potential King Maker in that freak Krankie up in Scotch Land, and the UK is simply bereft of any politician worthy of being lauded as a leader.

Never felt so despondent about the future of the UK. There is simply no obvious candidate who can genuinely bring any quality to the leadership role. No vision on offer, no sense of anybody being willing to go the crucial extra mile.

I genuinely think we are going into a winter of potentially global discontent that could last well into 2024.

And with nobody worthy of even the slightest bit of faith in making any kind of decision that benefits the UK above the desires of their own venality.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jul 22 5.40pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I am looking forward to attending the hustings in the South-East.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 20 Jul 22 6.26pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I am looking forward to attending the hustings in the South-East.

Cmon spill the beans willo. You know you want to

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 20 Jul 22 6.29pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

'Can't Penny Mordaunt just self-identify as one of the winning candidates?' (Darren Grimes)

 


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