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Originally posted by The Dolphin
I listened to some alternative views last night and although Boris is in deep doo doo and almost certainly told some untruths two points of view were interesting. You couldn't write parody that good.
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We are all waiting for the Civil Servant to produce a master-class of deflection, misinformation and downright lies to save Johnson. Presented in impeccable Sir Humphrey style we will end up in awe at how someone could get away with it and find ourselves scratching our heads at how we could doubt the most dis-honest person I can ever remember being PM. I am particularly interested in how they handle his apology to the Queen which is an admittance of his wrong-doing.
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This is surely a perfect opportunity for the conservatives to throw Boris under a bus and blame him for everything that has gone even remotely awry over the last two years. If they come up with a decent plan to deal with the current inflation and cost of living issues and put a suitable candidate up for PM then this has to be the way forward and will see them stay in power for the foreseeable future. If they don’t do this I reckon the public have had enough of the lies and arrogance and it will lose the conservatives (to probably a coalition government) the next election. I really can’t see labour winning one outright.
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Originally posted by Eaglecoops
This is surely a perfect opportunity for the conservatives to throw Boris under a bus and blame him for everything that has gone even remotely awry over the last two years. If they come up with a decent plan to deal with the current inflation and cost of living issues and put a suitable candidate up for PM then this has to be the way forward and will see them stay in power for the foreseeable future. If they don’t do this I reckon the public have had enough of the lies and arrogance and it will lose the conservatives (to probably a coalition government) the next election. I really can’t see labour winning one outright. A fair summary and I broadly agree - as much as I'd love to see him go as humiliatingly as possible, politically the Tories can only improve once he's out, and plenty of time to win back votes before a GE.
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I want him to stay!
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The former Labour prime minister said that without a radical shift in policy Britain faces “a steady, inexorable compound decline, similar to the 1960s and 1970s”. Sir Tony said that whether or not Mr Johnson survives the Partygate scandal, Downing Street’s biggest problem is the absence of a plan for the country’s future. Regardless of posters feelings about TB, how true that is. Our position in the world, the way others see us, has been trashed by Johnson's self-interest.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The former Labour prime minister said that without a radical shift in policy Britain faces “a steady, inexorable compound decline, similar to the 1960s and 1970s”. Sir Tony said that whether or not Mr Johnson survives the Partygate scandal, Downing Street’s biggest problem is the absence of a plan for the country’s future. Regardless of posters feelings about TB, how true that is. Our position in the world, the way others see us, has been trashed by Johnson's self-interest. One can be sure that Sir Tony has the perfect plan for our futures, and also one that involves him and Lady B making lots more money.....
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Originally posted by The Dolphin
I want him to stay! Seconded.
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Originally posted by cryrst
Seconded. Down to 66.667%
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I want him to stay on the basis that he is a vote winner, and I just can't imagine a country run by Liz Truss or that Tony Blair impersonator, Rishi Sunak. More importantly, I don't want that sham of an opposition party getting anywhere near government. Best case scenario is that Boris' lurch toward liberalism encourages people to seek a new proper conservative party that represents the majority of British people and their culture.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I want him to stay on the basis that he is a vote winner, and I just can't imagine a country run by Liz Truss or that Tony Blair impersonator, Rishi Sunak. More importantly, I don't want that sham of an opposition party getting anywhere near government. Best case scenario is that Boris' lurch toward liberalism encourages people to seek a new proper conservative party that represents the majority of British people and their culture. It is a mark of self confidence: the English have not spent a great deal of time defining themselves because they haven’t needed to.” English people don’t like to be told ‘enjoy your meal’. They will enjoy their meal if they feel like enjoying it. It is advisable not to command them such things in case they have other plans with their meal, such as preferring to dislike it.”
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I could possibly bear Boris on his own although he is a bloody arrogant t***, but it’s his wife Carrie really running the show. She like most women these days has weedled herself in, popped out a couple of sprogs to turn the lock and in a gloriously shambolic way orchestrated the current meltdown.
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