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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 03 Apr 24 4.29pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

20,000+ Palestinians killed, and everyone stays silent.
Tragically, 3 British Aid workers are killed, and suddenly the UK Government takes an interest.
Many more Palestinians are going to die of hunger and IDF action while the UK thinks of some more strong words to publish.

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

20,000+ Palestinians killed, and everyone stays silent.
Tragically, 3 British Aid workers are killed, and suddenly the UK Government takes an interest.
Many more Palestinians are going to die of hunger and IDF action while the UK thinks of some more strong words to publish.

Really?

 

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View Behind Enemy Lines's Profile Behind Enemy Lines Flag Sussex 03 Apr 24 5.31pm Send a Private Message to Behind Enemy Lines Add Behind Enemy Lines as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

20,000+ Palestinians killed, and everyone stays silent.
Tragically, 3 British Aid workers are killed, and suddenly the UK Government takes an interest.
Many more Palestinians are going to die of hunger and IDF action while the UK thinks of some more strong words to publish.

The three lads that were killed are British passport holders and as such the UK government has a duty to comment on them. The 20000 + Palestinians presumably do not hold the same legal status; therefore the difference. If they comment on every death in the world it would no longer be ‘supporting’ British nationals….maybe in the future when we have a one world government the situation will be different…

 


hats off to palace, they were always gonna be louder, and hate to say it but they were impressive ALL bouncing and singing.

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 03 Apr 24 5.37pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Behind Enemy Lines

The three lads that were killed are British passport holders and as such the UK government has a duty to comment on them. The 20000 + Palestinians presumably do not hold the same legal status; therefore the difference. If they comment on every death in the world it would no longer be ‘supporting’ British nationals….maybe in the future when we have a one world government the situation will be different…

That and the fact that there is news fatigue on Gaza. Oh, more deaths, how sad.

However, focus on 3 people who could have been your mates, then the story shifts to the war taking 3 of our own.

If it raises interest and, thus, political pressure, who cares how that is achieved.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 03 Apr 24 6.13pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Here's (maybe) some news. The UK might stop selling Israel arms, if things get worse.
How bad do thing really have to get ? Nevermind, it's all good for UK arms manufacturers.
"Rishi Sunak is facing growing pressure over UK arms sales to Israel, after the killing of seven aid workers by an Israeli strike in Gaza.
The Liberal Democrats, Scottish National Party (SNP) and a former UK national security adviser are calling for sales to be suspended now.
Labour says sales must stop if government lawyers believe Israel risks breaching international law.

The prime minister says the UK has a "very careful" arms licensing regime."

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 03 Apr 24 6.19pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Here's (maybe) some news. The UK might stop selling Israel arms, if things get worse.
How bad do thing really have to get ? Nevermind, it's all good for UK arms manufacturers.
"Rishi Sunak is facing growing pressure over UK arms sales to Israel, after the killing of seven aid workers by an Israeli strike in Gaza.
The Liberal Democrats, Scottish National Party (SNP) and a former UK national security adviser are calling for sales to be suspended now.
Labour says sales must stop if government lawyers believe Israel risks breaching international law.

The prime minister says the UK has a "very careful" arms licensing regime."

Wont happen.

If it does the regs will be ambiguous/bendable.

If they are strong, sales will continue via intermediaries and the authorities will turn a blind eye.

We are not going to properly and effectively ban sales to a friend. This is not Iran.

 

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Originally posted by silvertop

Wont happen.

If it does the regs will be ambiguous/bendable.

If they are strong, sales will continue via intermediaries and the authorities will turn a blind eye.

We are not going to properly and effectively ban sales to a friend. This is not Iran.

Israel used to buy British weapons - they found them the best. These days not so. They do buy some parts from the UK - not sure if they buy any particular full systems anymore. The current situation is that they would just source the same parts from India - and most of the parts will be for US systems and weapons. Whilst the US supplies Israel, it is just token gesturing for anyone else to stop.

 


Red and Blue Army!

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 03 Apr 24 11.40pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Originally posted by georgenorman

Really?

Well no

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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View NJ CLOCKTOWER's Profile NJ CLOCKTOWER Flag Tarragona 04 Apr 24 5.35am Send a Private Message to NJ CLOCKTOWER Add NJ CLOCKTOWER as a friend

Aid workers are often aware of the risks involved in their work, including exposure to conflict, disease, natural disasters, and other hazards. Despite the dangers, many are motivated by a desire to help those in need and make a positive impact in challenging environments.

 

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View NJ CLOCKTOWER's Profile NJ CLOCKTOWER Flag Tarragona 04 Apr 24 7.29am Send a Private Message to NJ CLOCKTOWER Add NJ CLOCKTOWER as a friend

Hamas has brilliantly manipulated the world's perceptions by framing their actions as responses to oppression or injustice, exploiting media to showcase their grievances.

They use propaganda to twist narratives, highlight civilian casualties caused by countermeasures, and portray themselves as defenders of a marginalized group or cause. Social media, sympathetic coverage, and strategic messaging can amplify their victimhood narrative, swaying public opinion.

Lots of people have fallen for it .They have forgotten about the disgusting massacre of innocent people and the taking of hostages.

Remember, who started this war it was Hamas when they invaded Israel. They knew very well that Israel was going to respond strongly but nobody expected them to retaliate as they did.

If you are an Empath you are more susceptible to manipulation due to your heightened sensitivity to others' emotions.

You might empathize deeply with manipulating terrorist group like Hamas making it harder for you to recognize deceitful tactics.

 

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Originally posted by NJ CLOCKTOWER

Aid workers are often aware of the risks involved in their work, including exposure to conflict, disease, natural disasters, and other hazards. Despite the dangers, many are motivated by a desire to help those in need and make a positive impact in challenging environments.

Oh, that’s fine then, never mind..?

It never fails to amaze me how fast goalposts can move - if you go back 12 months and imagine a British military ally bombing and killing 3 British aid workers in branded aid trucks in a de-conflicted area… there would be outrage both within the public and politicians.

Now we get a few stern words from the politicians and members of the public who go on as if this is a par for the course accident.

And they accuse others of being victims of propaganda.

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 04 Apr 24 9.39am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

The UK is selling arms to Israel. The UK sells arms to Saudi Arabia, sold them to South Africa (at the height of apartheid). The only reason we don't sell to big country's, is that they tend to have their own arms industries.
Whether the UK sells arms or components, the question is whether to take a moral stance (does selling of arms require morals ?), or whether to take a business stance.
And civilian casualties are an unfortunate by-product of war. The aid workers vehicles were clearly identifiable, they'd notified Israel in advance of their movements. And during the attack, the aid workers attempted to rescue their fellow workers, and were subsequently targeted themselves. This is according to verifiable photo evidence and witness statements.
As though 20,000 Palestinian civilian deaths wasn't reason enough to stop the killing. Now Aid Agencies have stopped distributing food and medicine,

 


"The facts have changed", Rishi Sunak

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