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 We are goin up!  Coulsdon 10 Jan 17 5.57pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Oh you flirt That's your opinion and fair enough. I struggle to understand how, regardless of your political convictions, anyone can actively hate Corbyn. His favourite past times are working on his allotment and looking at drain pipes ffs. He just seems like one of those nice old men down the road who sometimes come out of their homes with ketchup on their collar and their flies undone. Maybe after a generation of political savvy Cameron/Blair types, we need someone like Corbyn in charge to calm everything down
Take away the fact he's wrong on pretty much everything, his ability to interact with voters is pitiful. Not only does he not reflect any of their concerns, nor does he have any solutions to them. Plus he can barely string two sentences together. Chocolate teapot.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Jan 17 6.05pm |
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Originally posted by fed up eagle
Well where to start! The guys as marxist as they come. Anyone see him on the Andrew Marr show on Sunday? I was listening to BBC Radio 5live this morning on the way to work and apparently even Tories are signing upto the Labour party and putting in a vote for him in the leadership race, along with hard line crazy leftists. Would be hilarious if he won the leadership contest. Labour would be even more unelectable, which serves them right after what they've done to this country. Is he f**k. He's actually left wing, which is unusual for a Labour leader these days, but he's most certainly not a hardcore Marxist by any stretch of the imagination.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Jan 17 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
Take away the fact he's wrong on pretty much everything, his ability to interact with voters is pitiful. Not only does he not reflect any of their concerns, nor does he have any solutions to them. Plus he can barely string two sentences together. Chocolate teapot. Of course you could also be describing Donald Trump. I don't know, I don't expect him to win an election, but its refreshing change to Blair, Brown, Millband et al...
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| matt_himself Matataland 10 Jan 17 6.11pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Oh you flirt That's your opinion and fair enough. I struggle to understand how, regardless of your political convictions, anyone can actively hate Corbyn. His favourite past times are working on his allotment and looking at drain pipes ffs. He just seems like one of those nice old men down the road who sometimes come out of their homes with ketchup on their collar and their flies undone. Maybe after a generation of political savvy Cameron/Blair types, we need someone like Corbyn in charge to calm everything down
How can Corbyn not be described as a career politician? What else has he done with his life?
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| matt_himself Matataland 10 Jan 17 6.12pm |
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
Take away the fact he's wrong on pretty much everything, his ability to interact with voters is pitiful. Not only does he not reflect any of their concerns, nor does he have any solutions to them. Plus he can barely string two sentences together. Chocolate teapot. But he is a nice old man with an allotment.
"That was fun and to round off the day, I am off to steal a charity collection box and then desecrate a place of worship.” - Smokey, The Selhurst Arms, 26/02/02 |
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Jan 17 6.13pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
It won't and it just highlights that he appears to be pursuing a Stalinist, managed economy agenda, which will continue to turn people away from voting Labour. This is a populist stunt designed to try and keep Labour in the news. He will never implement this if he ever got elected. Marxist. Planned economies are Marxist. Stalinist policy was geared really around the five year plans for development and progress, and was a planned economy, but really it expounded on Marxist-Leninist theory. I quite like the idea, of setting a limit on how much people can be paid, as well as how little. It'll never happen though, as the capitalist system would never allow it to happen. But I do tend to agree, that its vile that people earning millions a year, do so on the work of people earning minimum wage.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 10 Jan 17 6.14pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Is he f**k. He's actually left wing, which is unusual for a Labour leader these days, but he's most certainly not a hardcore Marxist by any stretch of the imagination. You don't really get to be Marxist and a Pacifist. The system isn't going to change because people ask nicely.
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| gambler Kent 10 Jan 17 6.23pm |
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He's an absolute loony and should do the best thing for the labour party. Which is to f*** off.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Jan 17 6.38pm |
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Originally posted by We are goin up!
Take away the fact he's wrong on pretty much everything, his ability to interact with voters is pitiful. Not only does he not reflect any of their concerns, nor does he have any solutions to them. Plus he can barely string two sentences together. Chocolate teapot. Blah blah blah... No evidence but slate anyway blah blah blah out of touch (yet has made his party the biggest in Europe with a massive mandate) blah blah wrong on everything (even George Osborne admitted austerity was a mistake) blah blah no solutions (really , perhaps it's because the press don't cover what he says only print pretty much what you've just posted)
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 10 Jan 17 9.20pm |
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Originally posted by matt_himself
How long will be until Jezza says something else crazy, for example that all private property should be abolished and all urban dwellers will be moved to the country to live traditional peasant lives, followed by Seumas Milne being despatched to a press conference and 'clarifying' that it is a 'personal view' of Jezza's and not Labour Policy? Whilst Jeremy Hunt burns the bodies of those who have died unnecessarily because of NHS cuts in order to heat his house and IDS snorts the Ashes of those who've died because they were forced into work despite them not being fit to Before you accuse me of being ridiculous, I'm just reciprocating.
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 11 Jan 17 9.57am |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
The trouble with Jezza is he is just inept. Take his comments about freedom of movement. On the one hand he is not wedded to the idea but he expects the government to set out their case. He wants to be fluid but won't afford the same luxury to the people trying to untangle this mess. I think there's a little bit of him being inept and a little bit of Labour not really knowing how best to appeal to the electorate. So he's going out espousing policies, but when they're not instantly striking the right chord, the Labour party are trying to roll it back and say something else. As for the bit in bold - that's the job of the opposition. He is meant to challenge the people trying to untangle the mess. Especially when they are doing such a god awful job.
"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show |
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| OknotOK Cockfosters, London 11 Jan 17 9.59am |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
I struggle to understand how, regardless of your political convictions, anyone can actively hate Corbyn. His favourite past times are working on his allotment and looking at drain pipes ffs. He just seems like one of those nice old men down the road who sometimes come out of their homes with ketchup on their collar and their flies undone. I thought it was manhole covers? I'm not sure why I've fixated on this point, but it seems very important to me....
"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show |
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| We are goin up! Coulsdon 11 Jan 17 12.55pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
Of course you could also be describing Donald Trump. I don't know, I don't expect him to win an election, but its refreshing change to Blair, Brown, Millband et al... What??? Trump is incredibly effective at communicating with voters! And his ideas are going to come into practice because he won an election. He's the complete opposite of Corbyn.
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| We are goin up! Coulsdon 11 Jan 17 12.56pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Blah blah blah... No evidence but slate anyway blah blah blah out of touch (yet has made his party the biggest in Europe with a massive mandate) blah blah wrong on everything (even George Osborne admitted austerity was a mistake) blah blah no solutions (really , perhaps it's because the press don't cover what he says only print pretty much what you've just posted)
"No evidence"... he's about 15% behind in the polls!!! Get your head out of your arse.
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Y Ddraig Goch  In The Crowd 11 Jan 17 1.05pm |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
I think there's a little bit of him being inept and a little bit of Labour not really knowing how best to appeal to the electorate. So he's going out espousing policies, but when they're not instantly striking the right chord, the Labour party are trying to roll it back and say something else. As for the bit in bold - that's the job of the opposition. He is meant to challenge the people trying to untangle the mess. Especially when they are doing such a god awful job. Are they though? Genuine question, no we don't know what they have planned and it may well be that they don't either but the idea that they should provide a running commentary is barmy. The reality is they will take what they can get and give as little as possible as will the EU. It would be pointless for the government, whoever is in charge to say waht they intend to get out of negotiations. Cameron tried that and we know how that ended
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| We are goin up! Coulsdon 11 Jan 17 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch
Are they though? Genuine question, no we don't know what they have planned and it may well be that they don't either but the idea that they should provide a running commentary is barmy. The reality is they will take what they can get and give as little as possible as will the EU. It would be pointless for the government, whoever is in charge to say waht they intend to get out of negotiations. Cameron tried that and we know how that ended
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