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View blackpalacefan's Profile blackpalacefan Flag 28 Jun 16 7.23pm Send a Private Message to blackpalacefan Add blackpalacefan as a friend

Corbyn comes across like an ordinary person really. By that I mean he says exactly what he believes and doesn't often factor in the view of the party he is supposed to be uniting. If his views were slightly removed from the party as a whole maybe that would work, but being that people can't quit soon enough i'd say it's the right thing to do to step down. Sure, he's probably popular enough to win a vote but he's holding his own party to ransom at a time where they should be making gains. The man has principles whether you agree with him or not, but he's not a politician and doesn't know how to lead a party.

 

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View Cucking Funt's Profile Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 28 Jun 16 7.28pm Send a Private Message to Cucking Funt Add Cucking Funt as a friend

Originally posted by turkish eagle

Scapegoating when they need to look in the faces of their voters to understand what happened.

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If they don't understand now, they never will.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

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View davidpercival's Profile davidpercival Flag Croydon 28 Jun 16 10.23pm Send a Private Message to davidpercival Add davidpercival as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
I agree that Blair/Brown continued the Thatcherite policies. I was using the word Tories to speak about all the political classes who do the bidding of the rich and powerful against the rest of us.
immigrants obviously require housing, schools, hospitals etc same as everyone else but they contribute to the creation of wealth that can supply them - if we have a government that wants to provide them. Instead we have austerity which means less of all those things so the rich encourage the rest of us to fight amongst ourselves over the scant resources that exist.
Have you ever wondered why we went from building over 400,000 houses a year between the late 40s to the 70s and now we can't even build 200,000 despite the country being much richer? And most of the pathetically small number of those that are built can only be afforded by the better off. Hardly any council or social houses. More and more people are forced into frequently deplorable privately owned properties or Council bread and breakfast. It is because the working class has been weakened so the ruling class think we can be ignored and we can blame each other instead of them.


So let's get this straight. It's all the Tories fault?
So 13 years of Blair's Labour had nothing to do with it?
So mass immigration has no effect on housing, jobs, the NHS and the welfare state I suppose?

I expect we need to return to pre Thatcherite 1970's Britain right?

I need some of what you are smoking.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 29 Jun 16 8.07am

Heard a theory that a lot of Blairites don't want Corbyn to be leader of the opposition when the Chilcot enquiry comes out soon.

Also noted that all the MP's who are against Corbyn voted for the odious welfare bill. Looking after people. My arse!

 

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View Sportyteacher's Profile Sportyteacher Flag London 29 Jun 16 8.24am Send a Private Message to Sportyteacher Add Sportyteacher as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Heard a theory that a lot of Blairites don't want Corbyn to be leader of the opposition when the Chilcot enquiry comes out soon.

Also noted that all the MP's who are against Corbyn voted for the odious welfare bill. Looking after people. My arse!

I think that you're onto something here as we know that Blair and Straw are due to receive a pummelling from Chilcott enquiry report that is due for publication on 6th July.

Funny how we never hear of The Conservative Party's role within voting for military action at the time when their leader was privy to same MOD intelligence feedback. Without Conservative party voting support, the motion for military action would not have gone through. Their leaders at the time: Iain Duncan Smith ably supported by Cameron; Osborne and co.

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View Y Ddraig Goch's Profile Y Ddraig Goch Flag In The Crowd 29 Jun 16 8.33am Send a Private Message to Y Ddraig Goch Add Y Ddraig Goch as a friend

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

I think that you're onto something here as we know that Blair and Straw are due to receive a pummelling from Chilcott enquiry report that is due for publication on 6th July.

Funny how we never hear of The Conservative Party's role within voting for military action at the time when their leader was privy to same MOD intelligence feedback. Without Conservative party voting support, the motion for military action would not have gone through. Their leaders at the time: Iain Duncan Smith ably supported by Cameron; Osborne and co.

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That's what the Chilcot inquiry will tell us. It may be they went in willingly knowing it was a pack of lies, alternatively maybe they were made to believe that there were WMDs.

 


the dignified don't even enter in the game

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jamiemartin721 Flag Reading 29 Jun 16 10.11am

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch


That's what the Chilcot inquiry will tell us. It may be they went in willingly knowing it was a pack of lies, alternatively maybe they were made to believe that there were WMDs.

Certainly its looking like Blair isn't going to come off well....

 


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Hoof Hearted 29 Jun 16 10.47am

Can't someone put a pillow over his head?

 

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View Palacetinian's Profile Palacetinian Flag Surrey Fam 29 Jun 16 10.55am Send a Private Message to Palacetinian Add Palacetinian as a friend

There was always going to be Blairite coup at some stage. When the council results weren't that bad it got deferred. But when the shock of Thursday hit then the PLP decide that was the time to do it.

It's all about the sole of the Labour party and the direction it takes.

Read this for details of the coup when revealed by teh Daily Telegraph back on 3rd May...

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Hoof Hearted 29 Jun 16 11.18am

My Mrs had to walk through the "massed throng" of protestors in support of Corbyn in Bristol last night.

She said all she could see was placards designed by The Socialist Worker and Momentum.

Surely both these organisations are better affiliated to the Communist Party rather than Labour?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 29 Jun 16 11.23am

A friend posted this in an email. it may of course all be nonsense.

"It now emerges that Hilary Benn and Angela Eagle have been secretly briefing against Jeremy Corbyn for the last 9 months. They have constantly fed information to Laura Kuenssberg and the Murdoch press corps about pending coups and dissatisfaction in the Parliamentary Party.They were planning to move against him on several occasions and chickened out'. The debate on the RAF bombing intervention on Syria on the 2.12.15 was to be the preliminary opportunity for Benn to strike by
speaking out against the Labour line ( which he did to much Tory
applause). This was to be followed up by a no confidence motion after
the loss of the Oldham by-election which was confidently predicted by
the Murdoch press.The plot fell apart when the Oldham by-election was won by Labour, with UKIP in second place and the Tories beaten into third.
Their next attempt was when Shadow Foreign Minister,Stephen Doughty,resigned on air during the BBC's Daily Politics programme on 7.1.16,just before Prime Ministers Questions. Kuenssberg had been briefed by the plotters beforehand and she had fed this information to David Cameron who announced it during PM's Questions to the surprise of the Labour benches.
This plot to usurp Jeremy also fell apart.
All of Kuenssberg's reports which began with 'a senior Labour spokesman
told me....etc.' came from the offices of Benn and Eagle.
Kuenssberg was also informed about the present debacle. The conspirators had received news that Corbyn would suggest the impeachment of Tony Blair if the soon to be published Chilcott report on the Iraq war showed any basis of 'war crimes'. The conspirators decided they had to pre-empt this attack on Blair. It was agreed that Benn would initiate the attack on Corbyn. He awoke Corbyn in the early hours of Sunday morning 26.6.16 with a phone call to inform him of his intention to attack him publicly with a statement of his lack of confidence in his leadership. Corbyn had
no option but to remove him from post.The plan was then to organise a series of resignations with one being announced roughly every 2 hours to give the impression of a growing revolt. This was designed to keep it in the public eye and they would hopefully then encourage others not involved in the plot to join the bandwagon if they thought the ship was sinking.Initially there were 10 Shadow cabinet members recruited. and Eagles was to be the last one to declare in order to separate any association between Benn and herself.She would make a tearful, on-line resignation speech underlining Jeremy's honesty and goodness but saying he had no leadership skills.
"OH ! WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN FIRST WE PRACTICE TO DECEIVE"

 

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Hoof Hearted 29 Jun 16 11.30am

Sounds like the script for a film or play?

Compo could play Corbyn?

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