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Painter Croydon 07 Jul 21 7.47pm
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Do you actually read what others post on HOL or are you confusing us with "the few supporters who you have spoken to outside of this forum who you claim are underwhelmed at the appointment of Vieira." For your information HOL (which you may have forgotten are ALL Palace fans) were decidedly underwhelmed at the prospect of hiring Lampard or Dyche and also had reservations about Nuno and Favre He is a great signing for us. People are saying another FDB, but no comparison, FDB had no Premier experience at all and by all accounts was an arrogant git. Vieira captained the unbeatables and had a long successful career in the Premier. He has been coaching and managing for 9 years, so has experience. If you compare him to Cooper, who we nearly ended up with, who do you think the players would have more rspect for Cooper or Vieira? By all accounts he is a modest down to earth bloke, he needs to be given a chance to build his team. A change was needed, thats what we have got.

Painter

Croydon 07 Jul 21 7.47pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Do you actually read what others post on HOL or are you confusing us with "the few supporters who you have spoken to outside of this forum who you claim are underwhelmed at the appointment of Vieira."

For your information HOL (which you may have forgotten are ALL Palace fans) were decidedly underwhelmed at the prospect of hiring Lampard or Dyche and also had reservations about Nuno and Favre

He is a great signing for us. People are saying another FDB, but no comparison, FDB had no Premier experience at all and by all accounts was an arrogant git. Vieira captained the unbeatables and had a long successful career in the Premier. He has been coaching and managing for 9 years, so has experience. If you compare him to Cooper, who we nearly ended up with, who do you think the players would have more rspect for Cooper or Vieira?
By all accounts he is a modest down to earth bloke, he needs to be given a chance to build his team. A change was needed, thats what we have got.

Croydon-Trucker 07 Jul 21 8.58pm
Originally posted by Painter He is a great signing for us. People are saying another FDB, but no comparison, FDB had no Premier experience at all and by all accounts was an arrogant git. Vieira captained the unbeatables and had a long successful career in the Premier. He has been coaching and managing for 9 years, so has experience. If you compare him to Cooper, who we nearly ended up with, who do you think the players would have more rspect for Cooper or Vieira? By all accounts he is a modest down to earth bloke, he needs to be given a chance to build his team. A change was needed, thats what we have got. Spot on ! great post . We should all get behind him , a Palace legend in the making , i hope .

Croydon-Trucker

07 Jul 21 8.58pm

Originally posted by Painter

Spot on ! great post . We should all get behind him , a Palace legend in the making , i hope .

OldFella London 08 Jul 21 12.05am
Originally posted by Painter He is a great signing for us. People are saying another FDB, but no comparison, FDB had no Premier experience at all and by all accounts was an arrogant git. Vieira captained the unbeatables and had a long successful career in the Premier. He has been coaching and managing for 9 years, so has experience. If you compare him to Cooper, who we nearly ended up with, who do you think the players would have more rspect for Cooper or Vieira? By all accounts he is a modest down to earth bloke, he needs to be given a chance to build his team. A change was needed, thats what we have got. Spot on. 100% agree. First sensible post I have ever seen from you on HOL, we must be on the march onwards and upwards! Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..

OldFella

London 08 Jul 21 12.05am

Originally posted by Painter

Spot on. 100% agree. First sensible post I have ever seen from you on HOL, we must be on the march onwards and upwards!

Jackson.. Wan Bissaka.... Sansom.. Nicholas.. Cannon.. Guehi.... Zaha... Thomas.. Byrne... Holton.. Rogers.. that should do it..

BlueJay UK 08 Jul 21 12.08am
Originally posted by Painter He is a great signing for us. People are saying another FDB, but no comparison, FDB had no Premier experience at all and by all accounts was an arrogant git. Vieira captained the unbeatables and had a long successful career in the Premier. He has been coaching and managing for 9 years, so has experience. If you compare him to Cooper, who we nearly ended up with, who do you think the players would have more rspect for Cooper or Vieira? By all accounts he is a modest down to earth bloke, he needs to be given a chance to build his team. A change was needed, thats what we have got. Bang on. People can't complain about the 'steady as we go' approach of the past then be averse to change. In a way we've got what we wished for, and this could be exactly what we need. Give him time in the roll and see where it takes us.

BlueJay

UK 08 Jul 21 12.08am

Originally posted by Painter

Bang on. People can't complain about the 'steady as we go' approach of the past then be averse to change. In a way we've got what we wished for, and this could be exactly what we need. Give him time in the roll and see where it takes us.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jul 21 12.15am
I said to my wife over a tipple the other night that in my humble opinion, Vieira will not last the entirety of his contract. Either he will be a failure and be relieved of his duties or he will prove a real success and be prised away by a bigger club. My instinct of course might be proved wrong.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jul 21 12.15am

I said to my wife over a tipple the other night that in my humble opinion, Vieira will not last the entirety of his contract.
Either he will be a failure and be relieved of his duties or he will prove a real success and be prised away by a bigger club.
My instinct of course might be proved wrong.

Palace Old Geezer Midhurst 08 Jul 21 9.42am
Originally posted by Willo I said to my wife over a tipple the other night that in my humble opinion, Vieira will not last the entirety of his contract. Either he will be a failure and be relieved of his duties or he will prove a real success and be prised away by a bigger club. My instinct of course might be proved wrong. For once, Willo, I hope you're wrong on both counts. But if it has to be let's hope it's the latter and he's in demand as a highly successful manager. He's a risk, but no more than some of the other names that were in the frame. At least his command of our language is better than Favre's. I'm really hoping his experience will garner the respect and support of our team and be an incentive for new players to join our club. Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

Palace Old Geezer

Midhurst 08 Jul 21 9.42am

Originally posted by Willo

For once, Willo, I hope you're wrong on both counts. But if it has to be let's hope it's the latter and he's in demand as a highly successful manager.

He's a risk, but no more than some of the other names that were in the frame. At least his command of our language is better than Favre's.

I'm really hoping his experience will garner the respect and support of our team and be an incentive for new players to join our club.

Dad and I watched games standing on the muddy slope of the Holmesdale Road end. He cheered and I rattled.

southnorwoodhill 08 Jul 21 9.55am
Originally posted by Willo I said to my wife over a tipple the other night that in my humble opinion, Vieira will not last the entirety of his contract. Either he will be a failure and be relieved of his duties or he will prove a real success and be prised away by a bigger club. My instinct of course might be proved wrong. This would likely be the case whoever is the manager. Apart from Roy, we don't have a good track record of managerial longevity, for whatever reason.

southnorwoodhill

08 Jul 21 9.55am

Originally posted by Willo

This would likely be the case whoever is the manager. Apart from Roy, we don't have a good track record of managerial longevity, for whatever reason.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jul 21 10.07am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill This would likely be the case whoever is the manager. Apart from Roy, we don't have a good track record of managerial longevity, for whatever reason. My view is that if we had a manager without the profile of Vieira and he proved a success then perhaps bigger clubs might not be inclined to prise him away. My view was formed due to the high profile of Patrick Vieira.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 08 Jul 21 10.07am

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

This would likely be the case whoever is the manager. Apart from Roy, we don't have a good track record of managerial longevity, for whatever reason.

My view is that if we had a manager without the profile of Vieira and he proved a success then perhaps bigger clubs might not be inclined to prise him away.

My view was formed due to the high profile of Patrick Vieira.

kev64 Cambs 08 Jul 21 1.15pm
Originally posted by Willo I said to my wife over a tipple the other night that in my humble opinion, Vieira will not last the entirety of his contract. Either he will be a failure and be relieved of his duties or he will prove a real success and be prised away by a bigger club. My instinct of course might be proved wrong. Stating the obvious..

kev64

Cambs 08 Jul 21 1.15pm

Originally posted by Willo

Stating the obvious..

jeeagles 08 Jul 21 10.20pm
Originally posted by kev64 Stating the obvious.. It's a bit premature to talk about a man who's never managed in England being poached? If he does get to the position where clubs want him, then the club would presumably be having a great season. If we are doing well in the league, we'll be in a stronger position to find a replacement. Our last 3 managers to be poached (Freedman, Dowie, and Bruce) all left the club in a much better position than they inherited it.

jeeagles

08 Jul 21 10.20pm

Originally posted by kev64

Stating the obvious..

It's a bit premature to talk about a man who's never managed in England being poached?

If he does get to the position where clubs want him, then the club would presumably be having a great season.

If we are doing well in the league, we'll be in a stronger position to find a replacement.

Our last 3 managers to be poached (Freedman, Dowie, and Bruce) all left the club in a much better position than they inherited it.

dreamwaverider London 09 Jul 21 3.40am
Got off to a great start. There is no doubt that PV is a big man in world football and carries huge cudos from junior players. Looks like we are going to have a very exciting rebuild.

dreamwaverider

London 09 Jul 21 3.40am

Got off to a great start. There is no doubt that PV is a big man in world football and carries huge cudos from junior players. Looks like we are going to have a very exciting rebuild.

dreamwaverider London 09 Jul 21 3.44am
If you watch the video of Vieiera taking training you will see quite a few of our juniors training in the first team squad. Scott Banks is back , Acki Raki and the big Irish lad. Amongst others. Worth a look over on the COFC website.

dreamwaverider

London 09 Jul 21 3.44am

If you watch the video of Vieiera taking training you will see quite a few of our juniors training in the first team squad. Scott Banks is back , Acki Raki and the big Irish lad. Amongst others. Worth a look over on the COFC website.

Midlands Eagle 09 Jul 21 6.19am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider Acki Raki and the big Irish lad. Isn't Acki Raki a Jamaican fruit?

Midlands Eagle

09 Jul 21 6.19am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

Acki Raki and the big Irish lad.

Isn't Acki Raki a Jamaican fruit?

Midlands Eagle 09 Jul 21 6.20am
Originally posted by dreamwaverider There is no doubt that PV is a big man in world football He is also a big man physically and towered over Michael Olise in the official photos

Midlands Eagle

09 Jul 21 6.20am

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

There is no doubt that PV is a big man in world football

He is also a big man physically and towered over Michael Olise in the official photos

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Jul 21 8.40am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle He is also a big man physically and towered over Michael Olise in the official photos I have just checked the respective heights of the players. Olise is 5ft 10ins and Vieira towers over him at 6ft 4ins.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Jul 21 8.40am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

He is also a big man physically and towered over Michael Olise in the official photos

I have just checked the respective heights of the players.
Olise is 5ft 10ins and Vieira towers over him at 6ft 4ins.

Sansomite Portsmouth 09 Jul 21 8.48am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Isn't Acki Raki a Jamaican fruit? I don't think his sexuality's got anything to do with it

Sansomite

Portsmouth 09 Jul 21 8.48am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Isn't Acki Raki a Jamaican fruit?

I don't think his sexuality's got anything to do with it

Teddy Eagle 09 Jul 21 9.01am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Isn't Acki Raki a Jamaican fruit? I thought he was Finnish?

Teddy Eagle

09 Jul 21 9.01am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Isn't Acki Raki a Jamaican fruit?

I thought he was Finnish?

palace99 New Mills 09 Jul 21 12.09pm
Originally posted by Painter He is a great signing for us. People are saying another FDB, but no comparison, FDB had no Premier experience at all and by all accounts was an arrogant git. Vieira captained the unbeatables and had a long successful career in the Premier. He has been coaching and managing for 9 years, so has experience. If you compare him to Cooper, who we nearly ended up with, who do you think the players would have more rspect for Cooper or Vieira? By all accounts he is a modest down to earth bloke, he needs to be given a chance to build his team. A change was needed, thats what we have got. As previously mentioned great post. Vieira will need time and initially i wasn't overly excited by the appointment but a few things are becoming apparent quite quickly. He clearly knows the English game very well so knows the type of player that will thrive at this level. He may not have managed in England but has contacts at Arsenal and Man City which should be of benefit. And finally but perhaps most importantly he is a very respected name in the game and that will get us a few transfers. I notice Olise has played for France u18s. When a French world cup winner calls you that is priceless. He seems to have assessed the squad quite quickly - how long have we said we need a younger winger option and he has resolved it within a week.

palace99

New Mills 09 Jul 21 12.09pm

Originally posted by Painter

As previously mentioned great post.

Vieira will need time and initially i wasn't overly excited by the appointment but a few things are becoming apparent quite quickly.
He clearly knows the English game very well so knows the type of player that will thrive at this level.

He may not have managed in England but has contacts at Arsenal and Man City which should be of benefit.

And finally but perhaps most importantly he is a very respected name in the game and that will get us a few transfers. I notice Olise has played for France u18s. When a French world cup winner calls you that is priceless.

He seems to have assessed the squad quite quickly - how long have we said we need a younger winger option and he has resolved it within a week.

samprior Hamburg 09 Jul 21 12.20pm
Originally posted by Sansomite I don't think his sexuality's got anything to do with it Haha that made me laugh.

samprior

Hamburg 09 Jul 21 12.20pm

Originally posted by Sansomite

I don't think his sexuality's got anything to do with it

Haha that made me laugh.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Jul 21 12.21pm
Originally posted by palace99 As previously mentioned great post. Vieira will need time and initially i wasn't overly excited by the appointment but a few things are becoming apparent quite quickly. He clearly knows the English game very well so knows the type of player that will thrive at this level. He may not have managed in England but has contacts at Arsenal and Man City which should be of benefit. And finally but perhaps most importantly he is a very respected name in the game and that will get us a few transfers. I notice Olise has played for France u18s. When a French world cup winner calls you that is priceless. He seems to have assessed the squad quite quickly - how long have we said we need a younger winger option and he has resolved it within a week. With respect, Olise has been on our radar for some time. In terms of being a winger, he is capable of playing wide on the right and cutting inside but at Reading he has primarily played behind the striker. He is a real 'Steal' at £8 Million.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Jul 21 12.21pm

Originally posted by palace99

As previously mentioned great post.

He may not have managed in England but has contacts at Arsenal and Man City which should be of benefit.

With respect, Olise has been on our radar for some time.
In terms of being a winger, he is capable of playing wide on the right and cutting inside but at Reading he has primarily played behind the striker.

He is a real 'Steal' at £8 Million.

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