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The Dolphin 21 Jan 22 7.30am
That is the problem - there are no obvious candidates to do the job on either side of the house. Similar to America where the best they can come up with is Biden and Trump - and their population is nearly five times ours! It is a real worry for the UK - Sturgeon up north is a complete idiot who is corrupt herself, Drakeford in Wales - jeez he is and sounds so wet! Ireland - just realised that I don't know who is in charge they have made such an impression on me. Look around the world - Macron who makes me want to vomit and Merkel - albeit she has gone now - the list of useless tw***s goes on. The politics don't matter to me so much as the Leader which is why the thought of Starmer in charge doesn't bear thinking about - how on earth could he run the country based on hindsight which is what he would have to do because he hasn't got foresight! As for slimey Blair and his comments - he can do one! All very scary to be honest.
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21 Jan 22 7.30am

That is the problem - there are no obvious candidates to do the job on either side of the house.
Similar to America where the best they can come up with is Biden and Trump - and their population is nearly five times ours!
It is a real worry for the UK - Sturgeon up north is a complete idiot who is corrupt herself, Drakeford in Wales - jeez he is and sounds so wet!
Ireland - just realised that I don't know who is in charge they have made such an impression on me.
Look around the world - Macron who makes me want to vomit and Merkel - albeit she has gone now - the list of useless tw***s goes on.
The politics don't matter to me so much as the Leader which is why the thought of Starmer in charge doesn't bear thinking about - how on earth could he run the country based on hindsight which is what he would have to do because he hasn't got foresight!
As for slimey Blair and his comments - he can do one!
All very scary to be honest.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 21 Jan 22 10.02am
Tory infighting grows as rebels ‘consider releasing blackmail recording’ Rory Sullivan Fri, 21 January 2022, 9:25 am The Conservatives are gripped by infighting over Boris Johnson’s future, with rebel MPs said to possess a secret recording and texts that back up claims of “blackmail” made against allies of Boris Johnson. The audio clip involves a “heated conversation” with the party’s chief whip, according to The Times. DO IT ! I disengage, I turn the page.
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Tory infighting grows as rebels ‘consider releasing blackmail recording’
Rory Sullivan
Fri, 21 January 2022, 9:25 am
The Conservatives are gripped by infighting over Boris Johnson’s future, with rebel MPs said to possess a secret recording and texts that back up claims of “blackmail” made against allies of Boris Johnson.

The audio clip involves a “heated conversation” with the party’s chief whip, according to The Times.

DO IT !

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Hrolf The Ganger 21 Jan 22 12.12pm
Originally posted by Mapletree It is a mark of self confidence: the English have not spent a great deal of time defining themselves because they haven’t needed to.” English people don’t like to be told ‘enjoy your meal’. They will enjoy their meal if they feel like enjoying it. It is advisable not to command them such things in case they have other plans with their meal, such as preferring to dislike it.” That was before their very existence was under threat.
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Originally posted by Mapletree

It is a mark of self confidence: the English have not spent a great deal of time defining themselves because they haven’t needed to.”

English people don’t like to be told ‘enjoy your meal’. They will enjoy their meal if they feel like enjoying it. It is advisable not to command them such things in case they have other plans with their meal, such as preferring to dislike it.”

That was before their very existence was under threat.

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 21 Jan 22 3.58pm
if blackmail in government Office is suggested, and there is potential evidence, I want the police involved. This is potential corruption at the highest level. "threats to reduce or remove funding to constituencies, who's MP doesn't toe the Tory Whip line" I disengage, I turn the page.
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in a hidey-hole 21 Jan 22 3.58pm

if blackmail in government Office is suggested, and there is potential evidence, I want the police involved. This is potential corruption at the highest level.

"threats to reduce or remove funding to constituencies, who's MP doesn't toe the Tory Whip line"

I disengage, I turn the page.

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Henry of Peckham Eton Mess 21 Jan 22 4.42pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly if blackmail in government Office is suggested, and there is potential evidence, I want the police involved. This is potential corruption at the highest level. "threats to reduce or remove funding to constituencies, who's MP doesn't toe the Tory Whip line" The same police who are investigating the lapses in Covid rules and supposedly knew nothing about them or the police who operate inside and outside 10 Downing Street? Methinks there's something entirely rotten and it's not in the State of Denmark! Edited by Henry of Peckham (21 Jan 2022 4.44pm) Denial is not just a river in Egypt
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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

if blackmail in government Office is suggested, and there is potential evidence, I want the police involved. This is potential corruption at the highest level.

"threats to reduce or remove funding to constituencies, who's MP doesn't toe the Tory Whip line"

The same police who are investigating the lapses in Covid rules and supposedly knew nothing about them or the police who operate inside and outside 10 Downing Street? Methinks there's something entirely rotten and it's not in the State of Denmark!

Edited by Henry of Peckham (21 Jan 2022 4.44pm)

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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Badger11 Beckenham 21 Jan 22 5.03pm
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly if blackmail in government Office is suggested, and there is potential evidence, I want the police involved. This is potential corruption at the highest level. "threats to reduce or remove funding to constituencies, who's MP doesn't toe the Tory Whip line" But is it blackmail? I would imagine the whips will argue it is explaining reality to the malcontents. "If you are not loyal don't expect the party to support you in return?" One more point
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Beckenham 21 Jan 22 5.03pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

if blackmail in government Office is suggested, and there is potential evidence, I want the police involved. This is potential corruption at the highest level.

"threats to reduce or remove funding to constituencies, who's MP doesn't toe the Tory Whip line"

But is it blackmail? I would imagine the whips will argue it is explaining reality to the malcontents. "If you are not loyal don't expect the party to support you in return?"

One more point

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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 21 Jan 22 5.20pm
Originally posted by Badger11 But is it blackmail? I would imagine the whips will argue it is explaining reality to the malcontents. "If you are not loyal don't expect the party to support you in return?" It is threatening (it would seem) to withhold public money. And yes, be investigated by the police who have all the CCTV and signing in/out books for visitors to Government buildings and turned a blind eye to people entering buildings with suitcases full of wine bottles. I disengage, I turn the page.
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in a hidey-hole 21 Jan 22 5.20pm

Originally posted by Badger11

But is it blackmail? I would imagine the whips will argue it is explaining reality to the malcontents. "If you are not loyal don't expect the party to support you in return?"

It is threatening (it would seem) to withhold public money.
And yes, be investigated by the police who have all the CCTV and signing in/out books for visitors to Government buildings and turned a blind eye to people entering buildings with suitcases full of wine bottles.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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steeleye20 Croydon 21 Jan 22 6.45pm
From one Tory MP: Blackmail is not just about money for constituencies, it’s tittle tattle, personal things, affairs or who’s been to a lockdown party. At the far end it’s corruption and misconduct in a public office – on the other it’s a breach of the ministerial code. Either way it’s a resignation issue. “The culture comes from the top – it’s learned, bullying behaviour. Unless you stand up to bullies, they carry on.” And it would take a lot for a solitary MP to stand up to them.
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Croydon 21 Jan 22 6.45pm

From one Tory MP:

Blackmail is not just about money for constituencies, it’s tittle tattle, personal things, affairs or who’s been to a lockdown party. At the far end it’s corruption and misconduct in a public office – on the other it’s a breach of the ministerial code. Either way it’s a resignation issue.

“The culture comes from the top – it’s learned, bullying behaviour. Unless you stand up to bullies, they carry on.”

And it would take a lot for a solitary MP to stand up to them.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Jan 22 6.54pm
Originally posted by The Dolphin That is the problem - there are no obvious candidates to do the job on either side of the house. Similar to America where the best they can come up with is Biden and Trump - and their population is nearly five times ours! It is a real worry for the UK - Sturgeon up north is a complete idiot who is corrupt herself, Drakeford in Wales - jeez he is and sounds so wet! Ireland - just realised that I don't know who is in charge they have made such an impression on me. Look around the world - Macron who makes me want to vomit and Merkel - albeit she has gone now - the list of useless tw***s goes on. The politics don't matter to me so much as the Leader which is why the thought of Starmer in charge doesn't bear thinking about - how on earth could he run the country based on hindsight which is what he would have to do because he hasn't got foresight! As for slimey Blair and his comments - he can do one! All very scary to be honest. There's a coalition in Ireland, of the two parties who are the traditionally biggest rivals, plus the Greens. And yes, they're useless and corrupt. They swap between being Taoiseach (Prime Minister) on a sharing deal. FF Micheal Martin and FG Leo Varadkar, along with sleepy dishevelled Green, Eamon Ryan. Sinn Fein presumably next. Leo Varadkar is probably the only one you will know. He has the biggest PR machine. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 21 Jan 22 6.54pm

Originally posted by The Dolphin

There's a coalition in Ireland, of the two parties who are the traditionally biggest rivals, plus the Greens. And yes, they're useless and corrupt. They swap between being Taoiseach (Prime Minister) on a sharing deal. FF Micheal Martin and FG Leo Varadkar, along with sleepy dishevelled Green, Eamon Ryan. Sinn Fein presumably next. Leo Varadkar is probably the only one you will know. He has the biggest PR machine.

Red and Blue Army!

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Wisbech Eagle Truro Cornwall 21 Jan 22 7.19pm
Originally posted by Badger11 But is it blackmail? I would imagine the whips will argue it is explaining reality to the malcontents. "If you are not loyal don't expect the party to support you in return?" Threatening an MP over party matters, even deselection, isn't illegal. A party though doesn't spend public money so threatening an MP over funding for their constituency seems likely to be illegal. For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.
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Truro Cornwall 21 Jan 22 7.19pm

Originally posted by Badger11

But is it blackmail? I would imagine the whips will argue it is explaining reality to the malcontents. "If you are not loyal don't expect the party to support you in return?"

Threatening an MP over party matters, even deselection, isn't illegal. A party though doesn't spend public money so threatening an MP over funding for their constituency seems likely to be illegal.

For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally.

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PalazioVecchio south pole 21 Jan 22 8.13pm
some acquaintance of Boris came out this week. She declared him to have 'no morals at all' did anybody see the link with the story ? Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford
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south pole 21 Jan 22 8.13pm

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some acquaintance of Boris came out this week. She declared him to have 'no morals at all'

did anybody see the link with the story ?

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

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steeleye20 Croydon 21 Jan 22 8.16pm
Here we go:- 'PM facing call to ensure all evidence is published in NO. 10 parties inquiry' Sue Gray's report may just 'summarise findings'.
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Croydon 21 Jan 22 8.16pm

Here we go:-

'PM facing call to ensure all evidence is published in NO. 10 parties inquiry'

Sue Gray's report may just 'summarise findings'.

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