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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 May 24 11.36am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Some of the anti Textor rhetoric gets worse and worse. Firstly O'Brien was hardly a product of our academy and secondly if there is any blame to be apportioned for selling him then it should be Parish that is blamed as it was he that sold him and not Textor Take that up with the fans of all of his other teams too. They don't like him. How exactly are we supposed to be different? The O'Brien deal wasn't good for us. Perhaps you think there was nothing else involved other than a straight off transfer. Red and Blue Army!

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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 26 May 24 11.36am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Some of the anti Textor rhetoric gets worse and worse. Firstly O'Brien was hardly a product of our academy and secondly if there is any blame to be apportioned for selling him then it should be Parish that is blamed as it was he that sold him and not Textor

Take that up with the fans of all of his other teams too. They don't like him. How exactly are we supposed to be different? The O'Brien deal wasn't good for us. Perhaps you think there was nothing else involved other than a straight off transfer.

Red and Blue Army!

SnapperKain SE25 6PU 26 May 24 11.56am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Some of the anti Textor rhetoric gets worse and worse. Firstly O'Brien was hardly a product of our academy and secondly if there is any blame to be apportioned for selling him then it should be Parish that is blamed as it was he that sold him and not Textor Yeah but it's straight out of the Textor playbook isn't it? Have a look at this, these are the transfers in and out for RWD Molenbeek (RWDM), Botafogo and Lyon, there's free transfers and loans all over the place between the clubs, in fact Palace has the lowest number with just Adaramola, Ebiowei and O'Brien ending up getting caught up in it all. I agree that Parish should have done more to stop this and who knows why it was allowed, but this is the kind of thing I've always been worried about with this multi club ownership and the potential for asset stripping talent (especially from the academy) to whatever club is the favourite at the moment. Perhaps that was the plan for Textor? Use our world class academy talent to prop up his other clubs? [Link] [Link] [Link] The trouble with computers, of course, is that they're very sophisticated idiots

SnapperKain

SE25 6PU 26 May 24 11.56am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Yeah but it's straight out of the Textor playbook isn't it? Have a look at this, these are the transfers in and out for RWD Molenbeek (RWDM), Botafogo and Lyon, there's free transfers and loans all over the place between the clubs, in fact Palace has the lowest number with just Adaramola, Ebiowei and O'Brien ending up getting caught up in it all.

I agree that Parish should have done more to stop this and who knows why it was allowed, but this is the kind of thing I've always been worried about with this multi club ownership and the potential for asset stripping talent (especially from the academy) to whatever club is the favourite at the moment. Perhaps that was the plan for Textor? Use our world class academy talent to prop up his other clubs?

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The trouble with computers, of course, is that they're very sophisticated idiots

dreamwaverider London 26 May 24 12.41pm
Originally posted by Dwmullins BTW can we have compensation from Mr Multiclub Textor for stealing Big Jake O’Brien who has starred for Lyon this season including a cup final goal. How on earth could we have sold one of the few final product success stories of the academy and Irish speculative buys for £1million. And why do we now need to spend £12 million for a similar kind of player to replace Guehi? So who benfits from multiclub directors? I wonder if Roy was consulted? After all he never played him. I dont think he even gave him the chance to warm the bench.

dreamwaverider

London 26 May 24 12.41pm

Originally posted by Dwmullins

BTW can we have compensation from Mr Multiclub Textor for stealing Big Jake O’Brien who has starred for Lyon this season including a cup final goal. How on earth could we have sold one of the few final product success stories of the academy and Irish speculative buys for £1million. And why do we now need to spend £12 million for a similar kind of player to replace Guehi? So who benfits from multiclub directors?

I wonder if Roy was consulted? After all he never played him. I dont think he even gave him the chance to warm the bench.

Foxy0208 Blackpool 26 May 24 1.36pm
The multi club model only works where the owners hold majority shareholdings. I have no sympathy with Textor - he is in the position he put himself in. He probably took whatever deal he could so he could boast about his piece of a premier league club. It will have helped him raise investment for his other purchases. But its backfired in that he hasn't been allowed to do whatever he wants with Palace when its suits him. I think we will be better off without him. He doesn't have money, its all smoke and mirrors sadly and no, Glasner is not his man. Oli turned him down at OL. Parish isn't perfect but in this day and age its good to have someone in a position of influence who actually has some feeling for the club. Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

Foxy0208

Blackpool 26 May 24 1.36pm

The multi club model only works where the owners hold majority shareholdings.

I have no sympathy with Textor - he is in the position he put himself in. He probably took whatever deal he could so he could boast about his piece of a premier league club. It will have helped him raise investment for his other purchases. But its backfired in that he hasn't been allowed to do whatever he wants with Palace when its suits him.

I think we will be better off without him. He doesn't have money, its all smoke and mirrors sadly and no, Glasner is not his man. Oli turned him down at OL.

Parish isn't perfect but in this day and age its good to have someone in a position of influence who actually has some feeling for the club.

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

Badger11 Beckenham 26 May 24 1.43pm
Textor claims he picked Ollie we will probably never know the truth. Perhaps he did, perhaps he was just one of many that Textor suggested and were mostly rubbish. The Sun always claims to have picked the National Winner after about 20 of their pundits had their say. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 26 May 24 1.43pm

Textor claims he picked Ollie we will probably never know the truth.

Perhaps he did, perhaps he was just one of many that Textor suggested and were mostly rubbish. The Sun always claims to have picked the National Winner after about 20 of their pundits had their say.

One more point

Foxy0208 Blackpool 26 May 24 1.59pm
Textor quite probably did suggest Glasner - given that he needed new managers at all his clubs last year I would expect him to have done his homework particularly on available managers. I think though that if Glasner was tied to Textor in any way he would be managing OL now not us. Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

Foxy0208

Blackpool 26 May 24 1.59pm

Textor quite probably did suggest Glasner - given that he needed new managers at all his clubs last year I would expect him to have done his homework particularly on available managers.

I think though that if Glasner was tied to Textor in any way he would be managing OL now not us.

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 26 May 24 2.30pm
I have mentioned before that I met John Textor when he first came to Palace - albeit briefly. But he did impress me with his knowledge of football and his high level of interest in the game. That was well before the multi club ownership came into play. The Molenbeek fans that I spoke to earlier in the year didn't have a good word to say about him. And the underlying reason was his multi club ownership. It seems that everyone is feeling that the other clubs in his portfolio are gaining at the expense of the one they support. It would appear that Parish, Harris and Blitzer are not in tandem with Textor but until we know who will buy Textor's majority holding I will reserve judgement on whether it's a good or bad thing. In terms of O'Brien, I was disappointed that he left Palace. But at the time he was behind Andersen and Guehi as a starter and Roy's inherent distrust of youth meant he was unlikely to get many opportunities. The actual fee may now seem low given his progress, but for a young player with limited experience I don't think it was outrageously so. And Palace do have a sell-on clause. Old, Ungifted and White

NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 26 May 24 2.30pm

I have mentioned before that I met John Textor when he first came to Palace - albeit briefly. But he did impress me with his knowledge of football and his high level of interest in the game.

That was well before the multi club ownership came into play.

The Molenbeek fans that I spoke to earlier in the year didn't have a good word to say about him. And the underlying reason was his multi club ownership. It seems that everyone is feeling that the other clubs in his portfolio are gaining at the expense of the one they support.

It would appear that Parish, Harris and Blitzer are not in tandem with Textor but until we know who will buy Textor's majority holding I will reserve judgement on whether it's a good or bad thing.

In terms of O'Brien, I was disappointed that he left Palace. But at the time he was behind Andersen and Guehi as a starter and Roy's inherent distrust of youth meant he was unlikely to get many opportunities.

The actual fee may now seem low given his progress, but for a young player with limited experience I don't think it was outrageously so. And Palace do have a sell-on clause.

Old, Ungifted and White

Foxy0208 Blackpool 26 May 24 4.27pm
I have nothing to base this on other than a gut feeling but I think there may have been more behind the Jake O'Brien transfer than we were told. Maybe a favour returned but like I said I don't know. When Textor joined I was really pleased. He made all the right noises. The reality has been a bit of a disappointment in my opinion. Harris & Blitzer have spent a lot of time sniffing around other clubs (Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd that I have heard about but could be more). Is it too much to hope they are now looking at Palace with fresh eyes and seeing that if we are backed a bit we could be a force next season? Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

Foxy0208

Blackpool 26 May 24 4.27pm

I have nothing to base this on other than a gut feeling but I think there may have been more behind the Jake O'Brien transfer than we were told. Maybe a favour returned but like I said I don't know.

When Textor joined I was really pleased. He made all the right noises. The reality has been a bit of a disappointment in my opinion.

Harris & Blitzer have spent a lot of time sniffing around other clubs (Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd that I have heard about but could be more).

Is it too much to hope they are now looking at Palace with fresh eyes and seeing that if we are backed a bit we could be a force next season?

Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I don't like that attitude. I can assure them it is much more serious than that.

eagleman13 On The Road To Hell & Alicante 26 May 24 5.56pm
You've got to laugh . . . [Link] This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

eagleman13

On The Road To Hell & Alicante 26 May 24 5.56pm

You've got to laugh . . . [Link]

This operation, will make the 'Charge Of The Light Brigade' seem like a simple military exercise.

Badger11 Beckenham 26 May 24 5.59pm
Originally posted by Foxy0208 I have nothing to base this on other than a gut feeling but I think there may have been more behind the Jake O'Brien transfer than we were told. Maybe a favour returned but like I said I don't know. When Textor joined I was really pleased. He made all the right noises. The reality has been a bit of a disappointment in my opinion. Harris & Blitzer have spent a lot of time sniffing around other clubs (Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd that I have heard about but could be more). Is it too much to hope they are now looking at Palace with fresh eyes and seeing that if we are backed a bit we could be a force next season? You would hope so. Many of the so called bigger clubs in the PL or the sleeping Giants in the Championship are up to their ears in debt. There is no guarantee of getting out of the Championship and even staying in the PL as many clubs has shown is very hard. * The more prominent PL clubs now come with a premium and as the Everton owner has shown despite his millions there is no guarantee of success. On the other hand Harris and Blitzer actually own a PL club which is on the way up, debts are under control and they got it fairly cheaply. I don't see the point in dumping Palace for any but the best PL clubs. They might as well invest some money in us. *I thought I read somewhere that since we have been back in the PL all the other clubs promoted since then have been relegated at least once? Its taken us a long time to stop being a yo yo club. Edited by Badger11 (26 May 2024 6.03pm) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 26 May 24 5.59pm

Originally posted by Foxy0208

I have nothing to base this on other than a gut feeling but I think there may have been more behind the Jake O'Brien transfer than we were told. Maybe a favour returned but like I said I don't know.

When Textor joined I was really pleased. He made all the right noises. The reality has been a bit of a disappointment in my opinion.

Harris & Blitzer have spent a lot of time sniffing around other clubs (Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd that I have heard about but could be more).

Is it too much to hope they are now looking at Palace with fresh eyes and seeing that if we are backed a bit we could be a force next season?

You would hope so. Many of the so called bigger clubs in the PL or the sleeping Giants in the Championship are up to their ears in debt. There is no guarantee of getting out of the Championship and even staying in the PL as many clubs has shown is very hard. *

The more prominent PL clubs now come with a premium and as the Everton owner has shown despite his millions there is no guarantee of success.

On the other hand Harris and Blitzer actually own a PL club which is on the way up, debts are under control and they got it fairly cheaply.

I don't see the point in dumping Palace for any but the best PL clubs. They might as well invest some money in us.

*I thought I read somewhere that since we have been back in the PL all the other clubs promoted since then have been relegated at least once?

Its taken us a long time to stop being a yo yo club.

Edited by Badger11 (26 May 2024 6.03pm)

One more point

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 May 24 7.50pm
Originally posted by mileend Palace, thank goodness, have not delivered to Textor what he hoped. A way of trading players between his clubs to his own perceived advantage. Parish, Harris and Blitzer have stood firm against that. Though O'Brien was lost to Lyon. So it's good to have someone not interested in Palace, as its own identity, out of the club. Whether he will find a buyer is the question. He'll be wanting a good profit - and will need one if he's hoping to fund Everton. A good place to lose a fortune. Palace are in a very attractive position to new investors. But the buyer will not have complete control - unless they can buy additional shares. If Textor can't find a buyer then he can always sell to the current shareholders but they won't pay top dollar for his shares if he hasn't managed to sell them elsewhere. If Harris and Blitzer wanted Parish out then they could buy the shares but even Textor was extremely complimentary about Parish's ability to run the club so unlikely they want to find (or be) the new operational talent running the club. Fortunately the squad is in great shape so we don't need all the shareholders to be reaching agreement on huge player purchases. Funding for the new stand could be an issue, I guess it would need all shareholders to be in favour and supplying money / guarantees? Thanks mileend. Appreciate the response and enjoyed reading it. COYP Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 26 May 24 7.50pm

Originally posted by mileend

Palace, thank goodness, have not delivered to Textor what he hoped. A way of trading players between his clubs to his own perceived advantage.

Parish, Harris and Blitzer have stood firm against that. Though O'Brien was lost to Lyon.

So it's good to have someone not interested in Palace, as its own identity, out of the club. Whether he will find a buyer is the question. He'll be wanting a good profit - and will need one if he's hoping to fund Everton. A good place to lose a fortune.

Palace are in a very attractive position to new investors. But the buyer will not have complete control - unless they can buy additional shares.

If Textor can't find a buyer then he can always sell to the current shareholders but they won't pay top dollar for his shares if he hasn't managed to sell them elsewhere.

If Harris and Blitzer wanted Parish out then they could buy the shares but even Textor was extremely complimentary about Parish's ability to run the club so unlikely they want to find (or be) the new operational talent running the club.

Fortunately the squad is in great shape so we don't need all the shareholders to be reaching agreement on huge player purchases.

Funding for the new stand could be an issue, I guess it would need all shareholders to be in favour and supplying money / guarantees?

Thanks mileend.

Appreciate the response and enjoyed reading it.

COYP

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

pssguy 26 May 24 10.01pm
Originally posted by Badger11 *I thought I read somewhere that since we have been back in the PL all the other clubs promoted since then have been relegated at least once? Edited by Badger11 (26 May 2024 6.03pm) You either didn't read it, it was a long time ago or just false. Ipswich and Brentford, brighton , Villa off the top of my head

pssguy

26 May 24 10.01pm

Originally posted by Badger11

*I thought I read somewhere that since we have been back in the PL all the other clubs promoted since then have been relegated at least once?

Edited by Badger11 (26 May 2024 6.03pm)

You either didn't read it, it was a long time ago or just false. Ipswich and Brentford, brighton , Villa off the top of my head

pssguy 26 May 24 10.06pm
Originally posted by Badger11 *I thought I read somewhere that since we have been back in the PL all the other clubs promoted since then have been relegated at least once? Edited by Badger11 (26 May 2024 6.03pm) You either didn't read it, it was a long time ago or just false. Ipswich and Brentford, brighton , Villa off the top of my head

pssguy

26 May 24 10.06pm

Originally posted by Badger11

*I thought I read somewhere that since we have been back in the PL all the other clubs promoted since then have been relegated at least once?

Edited by Badger11 (26 May 2024 6.03pm)

You either didn't read it, it was a long time ago or just false. Ipswich and Brentford, brighton , Villa off the top of my head

Badger11 Beckenham 26 May 24 11.32pm
Originally posted by pssguy You either didn't read it, it was a long time ago or just false. Ipswich and Brentford, brighton , Villa off the top of my head This article was several years ago so yup I could be wrong. Villa were relegated in 2016 and then bounced back, unfortunately you are correct about Brighton. Anyway my point is that staying in the PL is very hard and most teams that come up get relegated This is from 2021. Clubs never relegated. [Link] Edited by Badger11 (26 May 2024 11.33pm) One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 26 May 24 11.32pm

Originally posted by pssguy

You either didn't read it, it was a long time ago or just false. Ipswich and Brentford, brighton , Villa off the top of my head

This article was several years ago so yup I could be wrong. Villa were relegated in 2016 and then bounced back, unfortunately you are correct about Brighton.

Anyway my point is that staying in the PL is very hard and most teams that come up get relegated

This is from 2021. Clubs never relegated.

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Edited by Badger11 (26 May 2024 11.33pm)

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DenTyler Sidcup 27 May 24 9.31pm
Sky sports news reporting that textor has instructed his legal team to find a buyer for his 45% palace shares so he can take over Everton.

DenTyler

Sidcup 27 May 24 9.31pm

Sky sports news reporting that textor has instructed his legal team to find a buyer for his 45% palace shares so he can take over Everton.

dreamwaverider London 27 May 24 10.23pm
As Textor has said, there is no common ground between his plans and ours. Beats me why he didn't get that when he bought in. Still, Im not a fan of multi club multi swap ownership. Nevertheless, I wish him luck in his ventures.

dreamwaverider

London 27 May 24 10.23pm

As Textor has said, there is no common ground between his plans and ours. Beats me why he didn't get that when he bought in. Still, Im not a fan of multi club multi swap ownership.
Nevertheless, I wish him luck in his ventures.

Dubai Eagle 28 May 24 6.38am
Everton were reported to be receiving funding from 777 every month to cover operating expenses (£16 Million per month, since January ?) If that were true then surely Everton imminent requirement for funding is going to be more pressing than waiting for Textor to sell his shares & do his due diligence on investing into Everton- Textor was making noises about being unhappy at Palace & was considering selling his shares about a year ago (a "toys out of the pram" moment) I would have thought if a clear exit route was possible it would have taken place by now. Originally posted by DenTyler Sky sports news reporting that textor has instructed his legal team to find a buyer for his 45% palace shares so he can take over Everton.

Dubai Eagle

28 May 24 6.38am

Everton were reported to be receiving funding from 777 every month to cover operating expenses (£16 Million per month, since January ?) If that were true then surely Everton imminent requirement for funding is going to be more pressing than waiting for Textor to sell his shares & do his due diligence on investing into Everton-

Textor was making noises about being unhappy at Palace & was considering selling his shares about a year ago (a "toys out of the pram" moment) I would have thought if a clear exit route was possible it would have taken place by now.

Originally posted by DenTyler

Sky sports news reporting that textor has instructed his legal team to find a buyer for his 45% palace shares so he can take over Everton.

Davepalace707 Northumberland 28 May 24 7.45am
Originally posted by Dubai Eagle Everton were reported to be receiving funding from 777 every month to cover operating expenses (£16 Million per month, since January ?) If that were true then surely Everton imminent requirement for funding is going to be more pressing than waiting for Textor to sell his shares & do his due diligence on investing into Everton- Textor was making noises about being unhappy at Palace & was considering selling his shares about a year ago (a "toys out of the pram" moment) I would have thought if a clear exit route was possible it would have taken place by now. You’re right but the (massive) problem Everton have is there isn’t exactly a line of prospective investors queuing up ahead of Textor

Davepalace707

Northumberland 28 May 24 7.45am

Originally posted by Dubai Eagle

You’re right but the (massive) problem Everton have is there isn’t exactly a line of prospective investors queuing up ahead of Textor

lefty27 ipswich 28 May 24 8.54am
Originally posted by DenTyler Sky sports news reporting that textor has instructed his legal team to find a buyer for his 45% palace shares so he can take over Everton. This is such old news. Textor has been selling since the beginning of the year [Link] . It was obviously him selling his stake in January. I will be happy when he leaves, he comes across like Goldberg on steroids.

lefty27

ipswich 28 May 24 8.54am

Originally posted by DenTyler

Sky sports news reporting that textor has instructed his legal team to find a buyer for his 45% palace shares so he can take over Everton.

This is such old news. Textor has been selling since the beginning of the year [Link] . It was obviously him selling his stake in January.
I will be happy when he leaves, he comes across like Goldberg on steroids.

Lanzo-Ad Lanzarote 28 May 24 9.22am
I really have no idea how much it would cost to buy Textors 45% share holding, dose anyone have a ballpark figure. “That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

Lanzo-Ad

Lanzarote 28 May 24 9.22am

I really have no idea how much it would cost to buy Textors 45% share holding, dose anyone have a ballpark figure.

“That’s a joke son, I say, that’s a joke.” “Nice boy, but he’s sharp as a throw pillow.” “He’s so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent” “ “Son… I say, son, some people are so narrow minded they can look through a keyhole with both eyes.”__ Forhorn Leghorn

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