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Teddy Eagle 26 Oct 20 9.55am
Roy has said he was signed as a centre back so maybe it’s just taken a while for him to adapt to midfield. In any case he, along with the coaching staff, deserves a lot of credit for what he’s achieved so far. We can only hope there’s more to come and now he’s scored its looking good.

Teddy Eagle

26 Oct 20 9.55am

Roy has said he was signed as a centre back so maybe it’s just taken a while for him to adapt to midfield. In any case he, along with the coaching staff, deserves a lot of credit for what he’s achieved so far. We can only hope there’s more to come and now he’s scored its looking good.

EddieMac 26 Oct 20 9.56am
Judging by Roy’s recent comments Jairo was bought as a Centre half and it has taken this time to get him ready to be a midfielder. Let’s hope he isn’t injured because he was holding his hamstring which was the injury that kept him out of start of season.

EddieMac

26 Oct 20 9.56am

Judging by Roy’s recent comments Jairo was bought as a Centre half and it has taken this time to get him ready to be a midfielder. Let’s hope he isn’t injured because he was holding his hamstring which was the injury that kept him out of start of season.

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Oct 20 10.02am
Originally posted by EddieMac Judging by Roy’s recent comments Jairo was bought as a Centre half and it has taken this time to get him ready to be a midfielder. Let’s hope he isn’t injured because he was holding his hamstring which was the injury that kept him out of start of season. He was brought in by FDB to primarily play in a back three or perhaps in midfield.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 26 Oct 20 10.02am

Originally posted by EddieMac

Judging by Roy’s recent comments Jairo was bought as a Centre half and it has taken this time to get him ready to be a midfielder. Let’s hope he isn’t injured because he was holding his hamstring which was the injury that kept him out of start of season.

He was brought in by FDB to primarily play in a back three or perhaps in midfield.

Jacey 26 Oct 20 10.37am
Originally posted by Willo He was brought in by FDB to primarily play in a back three or perhaps in midfield. Perhaps the one thing FDB got right.

Jacey

26 Oct 20 10.37am

Originally posted by Willo

He was brought in by FDB to primarily play in a back three or perhaps in midfield.

Perhaps the one thing FDB got right.

Canterbury Palace Whitstable 05 Nov 20 7.30am
He won player of the month for us, well deserved. Though didn't he win it last season as well and was then dropped? We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

Canterbury Palace

Whitstable 05 Nov 20 7.30am

He won player of the month for us, well deserved. Though didn't he win it last season as well and was then dropped?

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

BarEagle Monmouth 05 Nov 20 8.52am
Originally posted by Canterbury Palace He won player of the month for us, well deserved. Though didn't he win it last season as well and was then dropped? Hopefully Roy will now play Eze. Luka is a liability with the ball. He seemingly (in my eyes) passes the ball to the opposing side all the bloody time.

BarEagle

Monmouth 05 Nov 20 8.52am

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

He won player of the month for us, well deserved. Though didn't he win it last season as well and was then dropped?

Hopefully Roy will now play Eze.

Luka is a liability with the ball. He seemingly (in my eyes) passes the ball to the opposing side all the bloody time.

Eaglecoops CR3 05 Nov 20 9.29am
Originally posted by BarEagle Hopefully Roy will now play Eze. Luka is a liability with the ball. He seemingly (in my eyes) passes the ball to the opposing side all the bloody time. I agree but we do need a balance in the midfield of stoppers and passers. There are 4 midfield spots up for grabs. Is he going to drop Townsend, no. If Reidewald is now a nailed on starter then he needs someone who can break up play next to him which is one of the Macs. The real issue at present as I see it with Eze is he is up against Schlupp for a starting spot. Yes I’d like to see him take a more central role but all the time Roy sees him as left midfield then this is how it is going to be and Schlupp will get the nod because he is better defensively. Edited by Eaglecoops (05 Nov 2020 9.36am)

Eaglecoops

CR3 05 Nov 20 9.29am

Originally posted by BarEagle

Hopefully Roy will now play Eze.

Luka is a liability with the ball. He seemingly (in my eyes) passes the ball to the opposing side all the bloody time.

I agree but we do need a balance in the midfield of stoppers and passers. There are 4 midfield spots up for grabs. Is he going to drop Townsend, no. If Reidewald is now a nailed on starter then he needs someone who can break up play next to him which is one of the Macs.

The real issue at present as I see it with Eze is he is up against Schlupp for a starting spot. Yes I’d like to see him take a more central role but all the time Roy sees him as left midfield then this is how it is going to be and Schlupp will get the nod because he is better defensively.

Edited by Eaglecoops (05 Nov 2020 9.36am)

PatrickA London 05 Nov 20 10.18am
When Cahill and Tomkins are fit to join Dann and Sakho as options at centre back - if this ever happens - I think Roy will again see Kouyate as a midfield player notwithstanding how well he's played as centre back. In terms of midfield unfortunately I believe Roy will see Luka, Macarthur, and possibly even McCarthy and Kouyate ahead of Jairo in the pecking order. Jairo will have to play out of his skin to retain his place.

PatrickA

London 05 Nov 20 10.18am

When Cahill and Tomkins are fit to join Dann and Sakho as options at centre back - if this ever happens - I think Roy will again see Kouyate as a midfield player notwithstanding how well he's played as centre back.
In terms of midfield unfortunately I believe Roy will see Luka, Macarthur, and possibly even McCarthy and Kouyate ahead of Jairo in the pecking order.
Jairo will have to play out of his skin to retain his place.

thai-eagle chiang mai 05 Nov 20 2.48pm
Twice has Jairo played full months (January and October) - both times voted POTM. If the manager dismisses him as he did last time, I just give up.

thai-eagle

chiang mai 05 Nov 20 2.48pm

Twice has Jairo played full months (January and October) - both times voted POTM. If the manager dismisses him as he did last time, I just give up.

Hutchyeagle Hove 06 Nov 20 9.31am
Sorry but I still feel our other midfield players are more suited to the premier league. See him being dropped over the next few weeks and then make the odd cameo appearance . There is something lacking in his game ....

Hutchyeagle

Hove 06 Nov 20 9.31am

Sorry but I still feel our other midfield players are more suited to the premier league. See him being dropped over the next few weeks and then make the odd cameo appearance . There is something lacking in his game ....

doombear Too far from Selhurst Park 06 Nov 20 10.27am
Originally posted by Hutchyeagle Sorry but I still feel our other midfield players are more suited to the premier league. See him being dropped over the next few weeks and then make the odd cameo appearance . There is something lacking in his game .... Can you enlighten me (and others) as to what exactly is missing from his game? His passing is better than any of the other CMs as is his vision and his skill on the ball. His tackling and positional sense seem (to me at least) as good as any of the others. Also he's scored a goal this season. He is also younger and is improving all the time. What's not to like?

doombear

Too far from Selhurst Park 06 Nov 20 10.27am

Originally posted by Hutchyeagle

Sorry but I still feel our other midfield players are more suited to the premier league. See him being dropped over the next few weeks and then make the odd cameo appearance . There is something lacking in his game ....

Can you enlighten me (and others) as to what exactly is missing from his game? His passing is better than any of the other CMs as is his vision and his skill on the ball. His tackling and positional sense seem (to me at least) as good as any of the others. Also he's scored a goal this season. He is also younger and is improving all the time. What's not to like?

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Nov 20 10.46am
Originally posted by doombear Can you enlighten me (and others) as to what exactly is missing from his game? His passing is better than any of the other CMs as is his vision and his skill on the ball. His tackling and positional sense seem (to me at least) as good as any of the others. Also he's scored a goal this season. He is also younger and is improving all the time. What's not to like? Probably about 2 or 3 years ago, Hodgson and Lewington felt he doesn't react and get back enough quick enough for the PL and prior to that it was stated that he had moments when he switched off. However that was some time ago.I see him as a player with composure with ball at his feet and has the pace to recover if an opponent gets past him.I think he possesses lot of intelligence with a good awareness of position and space.I see a lot of positives in his game.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Nov 20 10.46am

Originally posted by doombear

Probably about 2 or 3 years ago, Hodgson and Lewington felt he doesn't react and get back enough quick enough for the PL and prior to that it was stated that he had moments when he switched off.

However that was some time ago.I see him as a player with composure with ball at his feet and has the pace to recover if an opponent gets past him.I think he possesses lot of intelligence with a good awareness of position and space.I see a lot of positives in his game.

Canterbury Palace Whitstable 06 Nov 20 11.03am
He's class, every time he has played a string of games for us he's shown that, regardless of position. Him and McArthur are our best CM pair with Eze in front of them linking midfield and attack. We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

Canterbury Palace

Whitstable 06 Nov 20 11.03am

He's class, every time he has played a string of games for us he's shown that, regardless of position. Him and McArthur are our best CM pair with Eze in front of them linking midfield and attack.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

Nicholas91 The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Nov 20 11.07am
Originally posted by Canterbury Palace He's class, every time he has played a string of games for us he's shown that, regardless of position. Him and McArthur are our best CM pair with Eze in front of them linking midfield and attack. I'm inclined to say this is what I would like to see. Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Nicholas91

The Democratic Republic of Kent 06 Nov 20 11.07am

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

He's class, every time he has played a string of games for us he's shown that, regardless of position. Him and McArthur are our best CM pair with Eze in front of them linking midfield and attack.

I'm inclined to say this is what I would like to see.

Now Zaha's got a bit of green grass ahead of him here... and finds Ambrose... not a bad effort!!!!

Eaglecoops CR3 06 Nov 20 12.27pm
Originally posted by Canterbury Palace He's class, every time he has played a string of games for us he's shown that, regardless of position. Him and McArthur are our best CM pair with Eze in front of them linking midfield and attack. So you would revert to 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 as per last season?

Eaglecoops

CR3 06 Nov 20 12.27pm

Originally posted by Canterbury Palace

He's class, every time he has played a string of games for us he's shown that, regardless of position. Him and McArthur are our best CM pair with Eze in front of them linking midfield and attack.

So you would revert to 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 as per last season?

PatrickA London 06 Nov 20 1.09pm
The best balanced team the way Roy likes to set up would arguably have two holding midfielders behind Eze with Schlupp and Townsend in the wide areas and Batshuayi or Ayew up top. This would move seamlessly between 433 to 451 and have people in their natural positions and get Eze into a more central attacking role. I’m not for one moment advocating leaving out Zaha which would obviously be ridiculous, but he does complicate the picture. He’s not a striker who can play up front by himself. He’s not a Schlupp or Townsend in terms of his defensive diligence. I would like to see Zaha in a fluid front 3 along with two of the other forwards and Eze in central midfield with two holders behind him. I just can’t see Roy playing this system which would leave us potentially outnumbered in midfield and provide little protection for the full backs . We’d score more but also concede more.

PatrickA

London 06 Nov 20 1.09pm

The best balanced team the way Roy likes to set up would arguably have two holding midfielders behind Eze with Schlupp and Townsend in the wide areas and Batshuayi or Ayew up top.
This would move seamlessly between 433 to 451 and have people in their natural positions and get Eze into a more central attacking role.
I’m not for one moment advocating leaving out Zaha which would obviously be ridiculous, but he does complicate the picture.
He’s not a striker who can play up front by himself.
He’s not a Schlupp or Townsend in terms of his defensive diligence.
I would like to see Zaha in a fluid front 3 along with two of the other forwards and Eze in central midfield with two holders behind him.
I just can’t see Roy playing this system which would leave us potentially outnumbered in midfield and provide little protection for the full backs .
We’d score more but also concede more.

Tom-the-eagle Croydon 06 Nov 20 1.55pm
Originally posted by doombear Can you enlighten me (and others) as to what exactly is missing from his game? His passing is better than any of the other CMs as is his vision and his skill on the ball. His tackling and positional sense seem (to me at least) as good as any of the others. Also he's scored a goal this season. He is also younger and is improving all the time. What's not to like? In the past I would probably say fitness, to me he never looked that sharp. This season he seems to have lost a few pound and is more up to speed though. Liking what I see now, in a non gay way. Edited by Tom-the-eagle (06 Nov 2020 1.55pm) "It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Tom-the-eagle

Croydon 06 Nov 20 1.55pm

Originally posted by doombear

In the past I would probably say fitness, to me he never looked that sharp. This season he seems to have lost a few pound and is more up to speed though. Liking what I see now, in a non gay way.

Edited by Tom-the-eagle (06 Nov 2020 1.55pm)

"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

Eaglecoops CR3 06 Nov 20 4.56pm
Originally posted by PatrickA The best balanced team the way Roy likes to set up would arguably have two holding midfielders behind Eze with Schlupp and Townsend in the wide areas and Batshuayi or Ayew up top. This would move seamlessly between 433 to 451 and have people in their natural positions and get Eze into a more central attacking role. I’m not for one moment advocating leaving out Zaha which would obviously be ridiculous, but he does complicate the picture. He’s not a striker who can play up front by himself. He’s not a Schlupp or Townsend in terms of his defensive diligence. I would like to see Zaha in a fluid front 3 along with two of the other forwards and Eze in central midfield with two holders behind him. I just can’t see Roy playing this system which would leave us potentially outnumbered in midfield and provide little protection for the full backs . We’d score more but also concede more. Yep, that’s pretty much as I see it. As one fan has mistakenly posted already on another thread, we could do with 12 players on the pitch to get the best out of our flair players.

Eaglecoops

CR3 06 Nov 20 4.56pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

Yep, that’s pretty much as I see it. As one fan has mistakenly posted already on another thread, we could do with 12 players on the pitch to get the best out of our flair players.

dynamicdick Dormansland 07 Nov 20 6.34pm
Terrific today and unsung hero, hardly put a foot wrong with simple passing. Bring back Brolin

dynamicdick

Dormansland 07 Nov 20 6.34pm

Terrific today and unsung hero, hardly put a foot wrong with simple passing.

Bring back Brolin

southnorwoodhill 07 Nov 20 6.38pm
Originally posted by dynamicdick Terrific today and unsung hero, hardly put a foot wrong with simple passing. Exactly how it should be. While the bigger names get the headlines, it's players like Didier Deschamps and Ray Parlour who are crucial to keeping a team ticking over. Edited by southnorwoodhill (07 Nov 2020 6.39pm)

southnorwoodhill

07 Nov 20 6.38pm

Originally posted by dynamicdick

Terrific today and unsung hero, hardly put a foot wrong with simple passing.

Exactly how it should be. While the bigger names get the headlines, it's players like Didier Deschamps and Ray Parlour who are crucial to keeping a team ticking over.

Edited by southnorwoodhill (07 Nov 2020 6.39pm)

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