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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 13 Aug 16 3.00pm |
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Originally posted by EaglesEaglesEagles
Trump = Terrible choice Sanders - Didn't agree with his political stance at all. I am not a socialist. However I did feel that, much like Corbyn he believed what he advocated was right and didn't want to conform to the traditional political ambitions. Should keep him in running to challenge Clinton next time round.
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 Oliver  Bodega Bay 13 Aug 16 4.35pm |
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Originally posted by pefwin
Should keep him in running to challenge Clinton next time round. And potentially just as crazy
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 13 Aug 16 10.18pm |
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Originally posted by Rubin
Well worth a watch to see what kind of person she is: "Hillary Clinton lying for 13 minutes straight" Another really interesting video. Most people in the UK would be totally unaware of any of this.
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EaglesEaglesEagles  14 Aug 16 3.28pm |
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That Hillary Clinton lying video on youtube looks legitimate in my eyes. There is no substantial evidence that it manipulates her own words or takes them out of context in order to launch a smear campaign. I think she's dangerous. I think Trump's dangerous. Here's a thought - if Trump were elected, given his lack of political experience, he would need a lot of help in office.
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| Penge Eagle Beckenham 15 Aug 16 3.12am |
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I quite like RT's news channel (most watched news network on YouTube apparently). It has a different angle on the US election for starters and seems to be against following main stream media. [Link]
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Aug 16 1.21pm |
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Originally posted by pefwin
Should keep him in running to challenge Clinton next time round. If she's still president. Realistically charges from the FBI etc could end that.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Aug 16 1.28pm |
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Originally posted by EaglesEaglesEagles
That Hillary Clinton lying video on youtube looks legitimate in my eyes. There is no substantial evidence that it manipulates her own words or takes them out of context in order to launch a smear campaign. I think she's dangerous. I think Trump's dangerous. Here's a thought - if Trump were elected, given his lack of political experience, he would need a lot of help in office. No one in the US is going to be able to reform gun laws, even if they're beneficial, sensible or necessary. The gun lobby is too stupid and to well organised - It'd require an absolute white wash of the republicans and right leaning democrats. You can't even get gun laws restricting terrorist suspects from purchasing firearms. The gun lobby has just become something that 'says NO' irrespective of what is being proposed (and I think this is a growing movement of republicanism in the US, is that is about what they don't want or like, rather than what they want - and Trump represents and explores this wilful ignorance - where feeling gives way to reason). I don't imagine Trump really caring what other people think, or how things are supposed to be done. Clinton probably on the basis of her experience is the safer of two poor choices (really more of the same) plus she'll be increasingly sidelined I think as the scandals grow (especially if the FBI charges and convicts her). Trump sounds like a arrogant, boastful c**t who couldn't give a toss. She's an arrogant boastful c**t who couldn't give a toss, but has sufficient political experience to know what you can and can't do.
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| Stirlingsays 15 Aug 16 1.36pm |
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Out of the two I prefer Trump. I truly feel that the debates will see him pull ahead.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Aug 16 1.44pm |
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Originally posted by Stirlingsays
Out of the two I prefer Trump. I truly feel that the debates will see him pull ahead. I think, in a real debate, I could beat Trump (in fact I think I could actually rip him to pieces). I don't think he's actually capable of any kind of reasoned argument. Its all play to the crowd rhetoric, personal attacks and deflection. I'm expecting him to turn out to be Delwoy
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Aug 16 1.50pm |
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Its a basic rule of thumb for me. If a politician's use of vocabulary is worse than mine, I don't think they should be the top job (provided English is their first language). They have to, in my opinion, be smarter than me, and more capable than me, in their performance I don't like Clinton, but she is smart and capable in constructing arguments (even if they are excuses). But neither should be running, and it sums up just how astray that actual political interest and values in the US have become, is that effectively you have the two most famous candidates running, neither of which by any stretch were the best or most politically expressive candidates in the primaries.
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ASCPFC  Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Aug 16 1.50pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I think, in a real debate, I could beat Trump (in fact I think I could actually rip him to pieces). I don't think he's actually capable of any kind of reasoned argument. Its all play to the crowd rhetoric, personal attacks and deflection. I'm expecting him to turn out to be Delwoy There won't be real debate though - there will be point scoring and smear campaigns. A bit like our own PM's questions.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 15 Aug 16 1.58pm |
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Originally posted by ASCPFC
There won't be real debate though - there will be point scoring and smear campaigns. A bit like our own PM's questions. Hahaha probably true. More likely it'll be people declaring their choice the winner because of x. That's why you need to have proper debates, not just asking a question and giving five minutes to each candidate. That's just glorified questions and answers. Its to debating, what shouting is to arguing.
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