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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 01 Sep 16 11.44am
Originally posted by We are goin up! He won't win because of his stupid policies AND because he's a useless dickhead. The two are not mutually exclusive. The other reason and one I think has so far been underplayed, is that he is actually a really nasty piece of work. the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 01 Sep 16 11.44am

Originally posted by We are goin up!

He won't win because of his stupid policies AND because he's a useless dickhead. The two are not mutually exclusive.

The other reason and one I think has so far been underplayed, is that he is actually a really nasty piece of work.

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 01 Sep 16 11.50am
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch The other reason and one I think has so far been underplayed, is that he is actually a really nasty piece of work. Agreed. The far left always shows its true colours pretty swiftly as soon as it gets a whiff of a pedestal, evil c*nts. Personified in my opinion by John McDonnell who is the devil incarnate. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

The other reason and one I think has so far been underplayed, is that he is actually a really nasty piece of work.

Agreed. The far left always shows its true colours pretty swiftly as soon as it gets a whiff of a pedestal, evil c*nts. Personified in my opinion by John McDonnell who is the devil incarnate.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Sep 16 12.53pm
Problem for me, is that Corbyn is a bit too right wing for me. Seems to be well ahead in the leadership polls with the labour membership. If he wins, it'll be an interesting time for the Labour Party. Doesn't really matter who leads the labour party, realistically the SNP are going to hold Scotland and I very much doubt that Labour can win enough seats from the conservative, UKIP and Lib Dems with Owen Smith anyhow. If he wins, I can't see it being accepted by the PLP, Blairites and center-right Labour. The big issue going forward over the next year or so is going to be article 50. Odd we could end up with an 'unelected prime minister', an opposition leader who doesn't have the support of his party MP's, trying to negotiate their way through an exit from the EU. Doesn't bode well. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 01 Sep 16 12.53pm

Problem for me, is that Corbyn is a bit too right wing for me.

Seems to be well ahead in the leadership polls with the labour membership. If he wins, it'll be an interesting time for the Labour Party.

Doesn't really matter who leads the labour party, realistically the SNP are going to hold Scotland and I very much doubt that Labour can win enough seats from the conservative, UKIP and Lib Dems with Owen Smith anyhow.

If he wins, I can't see it being accepted by the PLP, Blairites and center-right Labour. The big issue going forward over the next year or so is going to be article 50.

Odd we could end up with an 'unelected prime minister', an opposition leader who doesn't have the support of his party MP's, trying to negotiate their way through an exit from the EU.

Doesn't bode well.

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jamiemartin721 Reading 01 Sep 16 12.55pm
Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch The other reason and one I think has so far been underplayed, is that he is actually a really nasty piece of work. Probably true, but then that's never really been a blocker from office. Thatcher and Blair had the same attributes. "One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug" [Link]
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Reading 01 Sep 16 12.55pm

Originally posted by Y Ddraig Goch

The other reason and one I think has so far been underplayed, is that he is actually a really nasty piece of work.

Probably true, but then that's never really been a blocker from office. Thatcher and Blair had the same attributes.

"One Nation Under God, has turned into One Nation Under the Influence of One Drug"
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Stuk Top half 01 Sep 16 4.18pm
Originally posted by We are goin up! Agreed. The far left always shows its true colours pretty swiftly as soon as it gets a whiff of a pedestal, evil cnts. Personified in my opinion by John McDonnell who is the devil incarnate*. You're not wrong there, or in your previous posts. Optimistic as ever
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Top half 01 Sep 16 4.18pm

Originally posted by We are goin up!

Agreed. The far left always shows its true colours pretty swiftly as soon as it gets a whiff of a pedestal, evil c*nts. Personified in my opinion by John McDonnell who is the devil incarnate.

You're not wrong there, or in your previous posts.

Optimistic as ever

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Y Ddraig Goch In The Crowd 01 Sep 16 4.28pm
Originally posted by jamiemartin721 Probably true, but then that's never really been a blocker from office. Thatcher and Blair had the same attributes. There's a difference between ruthless and nasty the dignified don't even enter in the game
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Y Ddraig Goch

In The Crowd 01 Sep 16 4.28pm

Originally posted by jamiemartin721

Probably true, but then that's never really been a blocker from office. Thatcher and Blair had the same attributes.

There's a difference between ruthless and nasty

the dignified don't even enter in the game

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steeleye20 Online Croydon 01 Sep 16 5.49pm
You have to be able to fire someone it does not mean you are vindictive but then Thatcher and Blair were always PM by virtue of the public in a general election I don't think an unelected PM such as Brown or May should delay seeking a mandate from the people. A democratic minus for UK?
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Croydon 01 Sep 16 5.49pm

You have to be able to fire someone it does not mean you are vindictive but then Thatcher and Blair were always PM by virtue of the public in a general election I don't think an unelected PM such as Brown or May should delay seeking a mandate from the people.

A democratic minus for UK?

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Stuk Top half 01 Sep 16 6.02pm
Originally posted by steeleye20 You have to be able to fire someone it does not mean you are vindictive but then Thatcher and Blair were always PM by virtue of the public in a general election I don't think an unelected PM such as Brown or May should delay seeking a mandate from the people. A democratic minus for UK? You don't vote for the PM. Why can people not grasp this. Optimistic as ever
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Stuk

Top half 01 Sep 16 6.02pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

A democratic minus for UK?

You don't vote for the PM.

Why can people not grasp this.

Optimistic as ever

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Mr_Gristle In the land of Whelk Eaters 01 Sep 16 6.21pm
Originally posted by Stuk You don't vote for the PM. Why can people not grasp this. Factually correct, but recent national campaigns have defintely had large factors of "vote for us, so you don't get XXX running the country". Tory Dave's last win was arguably on the back of a "vote labour, get Nicola Sturgeon calling the shots in England" campaign. May won't go to the country given the massive two fingers stuck up by the electorate to the status quo. Edited by Mr_Gristle (01 Sep 2016 6.21pm) Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)
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In the land of Whelk Eaters 01 Sep 16 6.21pm

Originally posted by Stuk

You don't vote for the PM.

Why can people not grasp this.

Factually correct, but recent national campaigns have defintely had large factors of "vote for us, so you don't get XXX running the country".

Tory Dave's last win was arguably on the back of a "vote labour, get Nicola Sturgeon calling the shots in England" campaign.

May won't go to the country given the massive two fingers stuck up by the electorate to the status quo.

Edited by Mr_Gristle (01 Sep 2016 6.21pm)

Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

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Stuk Top half 01 Sep 16 7.45pm
Originally posted by Mr_Gristle Factually correct, but recent national campaigns have defintely had large factors of "vote for us, so you don't get XXX running the country". Tory Dave's last win was arguably on the back of a "vote labour, get Nicola Sturgeon calling the shots in England" campaign. May won't go to the country given the massive two fingers stuck up by the electorate to the status quo. Edited by Mr_Gristle (01 Sep 2016 6.21pm) May would walk it if they called an election right now, but there is no point. They've got the best part of 4 years to go anyway and can sort out the constituency adjustments between then and now. They won the last one partly because the SNP wiped out Labour's previous banker areas, not because Jimmy Krankie would be calling the shots. She isn't even an MP ffs. Optimistic as ever
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Stuk

Top half 01 Sep 16 7.45pm

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Factually correct, but recent national campaigns have defintely had large factors of "vote for us, so you don't get XXX running the country".

Tory Dave's last win was arguably on the back of a "vote labour, get Nicola Sturgeon calling the shots in England" campaign.

May won't go to the country given the massive two fingers stuck up by the electorate to the status quo.

Edited by Mr_Gristle (01 Sep 2016 6.21pm)

May would walk it if they called an election right now, but there is no point. They've got the best part of 4 years to go anyway and can sort out the constituency adjustments between then and now.

They won the last one partly because the SNP wiped out Labour's previous banker areas, not because Jimmy Krankie would be calling the shots. She isn't even an MP ffs.

Optimistic as ever

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We are goin up! Coulsdon 01 Sep 16 11.14pm
Originally posted by Mr_Gristle Factually correct, but recent national campaigns have defintely had large factors of "vote for us, so you don't get XXX running the country". Tory Dave's last win was arguably on the back of a "vote labour, get Nicola Sturgeon calling the shots in England" campaign. May won't go to the country given the massive two fingers stuck up by the electorate to the status quo. Edited by Mr_Gristle (01 Sep 2016 6.21pm) Would be in her interests to do so, as it would result in a Tory landslide. She shouldn't do it though, we've two elections in the space of a year and it's time they started doing their job rather than talking to the electorate. The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
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Coulsdon 01 Sep 16 11.14pm

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Factually correct, but recent national campaigns have defintely had large factors of "vote for us, so you don't get XXX running the country".

Tory Dave's last win was arguably on the back of a "vote labour, get Nicola Sturgeon calling the shots in England" campaign.

May won't go to the country given the massive two fingers stuck up by the electorate to the status quo.

Edited by Mr_Gristle (01 Sep 2016 6.21pm)

Would be in her interests to do so, as it would result in a Tory landslide. She shouldn't do it though, we've two elections in the space of a year and it's time they started doing their job rather than talking to the electorate.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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masonic_palace Gatport Airwick 02 Sep 16 12.41pm
In comrade Corbyn's latest ramblings, going for a pint after work discriminates against female employees. So never mind the fact that I was the gender minority in Revolution last night. Never mind the fact that us single parent dads like to be home for our kids. [Link] Long may he continue as labour leader 404 Signature Not Found
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