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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 10 Dec 23 2.53pm

Originally posted by Badger11

The honest and ever reliable BBC

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And for those who hate the Mail and prefer their news sanitised.

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I did look for the Guardian version but apparently they decided it wasn't newsworthy.

We will see how this is resolved.

It won’t be by the Mail or their headlines.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Dec 23 3.10pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We will see how this is resolved.

It won’t be by the Mail or their headlines.

Which is why I gave you the BBC link. I think it has been resolved the BBC will have to turn this stuff over after denying they had it.

 


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eaglesdare Flag 10 Dec 23 9.00pm

The BBC in my eyes have lost whatever credibility it had left by reporting Hamas headlines as if they are not a terrorist organization.

Its like reporting Taliban headlines from Afghanistan a few years back!

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 12.25am

Originally posted by Badger11

Which is why I gave you the BBC link. I think it has been resolved the BBC will have to turn this stuff over after denying they had it.

We’ll see.

If my understanding is correct they provided everything they considered was relevant and which did not conflict with other requirements. Like preserving the privacy and rights of others.

I don’t know if you have ever made, or been involved in, a FOI request. If so you will know that what comes back is greatly restricted and redacted to protect the identity of individuals, both internal and external, being released.

With thousands of documents involved this could take months or even years to resolve as it would need to be done by the lawyers. What’s left is often meaningless, making the whole exercise a pointless waste of time and money.

So how the BBC will respond is unclear. They may well appeal on the basis that the costs outweigh any possible benefits. They might offer to turn the whole file over to an independent tribunal for secure scrutiny so they can produce a summary of the issue.

Let’s see.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Dec 23 12.43am


Since they're spending licence payers money on lawyers let's hope it's not a long process.


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 11 Dec 23 7.34am

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

We’ll see.

If my understanding is correct they provided everything they considered was relevant and which did not conflict with other requirements. Like preserving the privacy and rights of others.

I don’t know if you have ever made, or been involved in, a FOI request. If so you will know that what comes back is greatly restricted and redacted to protect the identity of individuals, both internal and external, being released.

With thousands of documents involved this could take months or even years to resolve as it would need to be done by the lawyers. What’s left is often meaningless, making the whole exercise a pointless waste of time and money.

So how the BBC will respond is unclear. They may well appeal on the basis that the costs outweigh any possible benefits. They might offer to turn the whole file over to an independent tribunal for secure scrutiny so they can produce a summary of the issue.

Let’s see.

Or this could be the final piece in a long list of lies put out by the BBC over the Martin Bashir interview.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 11 Dec 23 7.35am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Since they're spending licence payers money on lawyers let's hope it's not a long process.


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But but but the BBC doesn't tell lies.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Dec 23 9.33am

Originally posted by Badger11

But but but the BBC doesn't tell lies.

Ah, yes, no, the thing is... the BBC doesn't lie. The BBC never has and never will... it's just that some of their employees do.

 

PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 11 Dec 23 11.26am

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

... the BBC doesn't lie. The BBC never has and never will... it's just that some of their employees do.

Jimmy Savile never lied. He openly bragged about all his crimes. Joked about it on live TV.

Surely Margaret Thatcher heard all the rumours ? and she approved the knighthood nevertheless. Was somebody 'higher up' telling her what to do ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (11 Dec 2023 11.27am)

 


Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Dec 23 11.36am

Without the BBC how would we know what's wrong or right anymore? How would we live without the lectures from various opinionated people? The soap boxing on why the majority of British people are wrong? The channel that gives far more voice to tiny minorities than the vast majority of its customers? I shudder to think of what the world would be like without being told what to think by the completely balanced BBC.
I'm sure morality police is within its remit.

Seeing as Eurosport has the snooker, I no longer require the BBC.

 


Red and Blue Army!

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards Hrolf The Ganger Flag 11 Dec 23 12.40pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Jimmy Savile never lied. He openly bragged about all his crimes. Joked about it on live TV.

Surely Margaret Thatcher heard all the rumours ? and she approved the knighthood nevertheless. Was somebody 'higher up' telling her what to do ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (11 Dec 2023 11.27am)

Shhh! They'll hear you.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 1.55pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Since they're spending licence payers money on lawyers let's hope it's not a long process.


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If they do it will only be because of the need to fulfil the requirements placed on them by FOI requests.


Edited by Wisbech Eagle (11 Dec 2023 2.00pm)

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 1.59pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Or this could be the final piece in a long list of lies put out by the BBC over the Martin Bashir interview.

Lies?

Any BBC employee found lying would be sacked.

Not being able to reveal things maybe, but that’s different. Although for those with a determination to see the BBC in ways it is not that will be difficult to comprehend.

 


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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 2.05pm

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Jimmy Savile never lied. He openly bragged about all his crimes. Joked about it on live TV.

Surely Margaret Thatcher heard all the rumours ? and she approved the knighthood nevertheless. Was somebody 'higher up' telling her what to do ?

Edited by PalazioVecchio (11 Dec 2023 11.27am)

Jimmy Savile wasn’t the BBC. He worked for the BBC who he fooled for a long time, alongside many others. That their systems let them down is well established and steps taken to learn the lessons.

Whether Thatcher heard the rumours or not she ought to have been suspicious just because of his odd behaviour. I don’t think anyone told Thatcher what to do.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Dec 23 2.15pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Lies?

Any BBC employee found lying would be sacked.

Not being able to reveal things maybe, but that’s different. Although for those with a determination to see the BBC in ways it is not that will be difficult to comprehend.

As would the person who alerted them to any wrongdoing.

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Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 2.42pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

As would the person who alerted them to any wrongdoing.

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Who then got damages when the truth came to the light. Why the managers involved came to the now proved incorrect conclusions isn’t known to me. If they were fully aware themselves then I hope and expect them to have been sacked as a result.

 


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Teddy Eagle Flag 11 Dec 23 2.52pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Who then got damages when the truth came to the light. Why the managers involved came to the now proved incorrect conclusions isn’t known to me. If they were fully aware themselves then I hope and expect them to have been sacked as a result.


Unlikely since they didn't sack Bashir. They rehired him.

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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 11 Dec 23 3.14pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Unlikely since they didn't sack Bashir. They rehired him.

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Lies were told by BBC staff and then covered up by management, this should not be in dispute as the BBC has admitted as much.

The latest court case is about the BBC refusing to hand over emails it originally said didn't exist and now admits does.

The court has ordered them to do so although the BBC may appeal the decision.

Quite why anybody can defend the BBC over this whole sorry saga is beyond me.

 


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silvertop Flag Portishead 11 Dec 23 7.14pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Lies were told by BBC staff and then covered up by management, this should not be in dispute as the BBC has admitted as much.

The latest court case is about the BBC refusing to hand over emails it originally said didn't exist and now admits does.

The court has ordered them to do so although the BBC may appeal the decision.

Quite why anybody can defend the BBC over this whole sorry saga is beyond me.

Who is defending them? The BBC are reporting as is.

 

Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 11 Dec 23 9.05pm

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


Unlikely since they didn't sack Bashir. They rehired him.

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Only because they believed his contrition was genuine and the mistakes were down to inexperience. He fooled people who themselves have now shown their own contrition.

 


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