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 ghosteagle  20 Mar 15 2.45pm |
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All we see in the news now are problems directly related to immigrants and their offspring. This was totally predictable. If the financial benefit is so hard to demonstrate, it is surely a policy that was more trouble that it is worth. It is totally out of control. The bottom line is that Britain's politics and culture is being altered by a ever growing minority of ethnic population. We need to recognise that. There are a multitude of problems in the pipeline. There are so many elephants in this room that it has become a circus. You think that all of our problems are because of immigrants? Well that sounds like a convenient thing to believe doesn't it.
I would say that many of Britain's current problems like domestic terrorism, violent crime levels, housing shortages, medical care shortages, religious and cultural division would all be far less significant if immigration had been curtailed . Some would not exist at all, like honour killings, people trafficking, slavery, fake marriages,forced marriages etc No one white wants to talk about it Edited by TheJudge (20 Mar 2015 2.14pm) No one wants to talk to you. Or your tinfoil hat. That's the spirit. Who said that?? Is that you Enoch??
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| elgrande bedford 20 Mar 15 2.58pm |
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Quote ghosteagle at 20 Mar 2015 2.45pm
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Quote TheJudge at 20 Mar 2015 10.18am
All we see in the news now are problems directly related to immigrants and their offspring. This was totally predictable. If the financial benefit is so hard to demonstrate, it is surely a policy that was more trouble that it is worth. It is totally out of control. The bottom line is that Britain's politics and culture is being altered by a ever growing minority of ethnic population. We need to recognise that. There are a multitude of problems in the pipeline. There are so many elephants in this room that it has become a circus. You think that all of our problems are because of immigrants? Well that sounds like a convenient thing to believe doesn't it.
I would say that many of Britain's current problems like domestic terrorism, violent crime levels, housing shortages, medical care shortages, religious and cultural division would all be far less significant if immigration had been curtailed . Some would not exist at all, like honour killings, people trafficking, slavery, fake marriages,forced marriages etc No one white wants to talk about it Edited by TheJudge (20 Mar 2015 2.14pm) No one wants to talk to you. Or your tinfoil hat. That's the spirit. Who said that?? Is that you Enoch??
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| ghosteagle 20 Mar 15 3.29pm |
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Quote elgrande at 20 Mar 2015 2.58pm
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Quote TheJudge at 20 Mar 2015 10.18am
All we see in the news now are problems directly related to immigrants and their offspring. This was totally predictable. If the financial benefit is so hard to demonstrate, it is surely a policy that was more trouble that it is worth. It is totally out of control. The bottom line is that Britain's politics and culture is being altered by a ever growing minority of ethnic population. We need to recognise that. There are a multitude of problems in the pipeline. There are so many elephants in this room that it has become a circus. You think that all of our problems are because of immigrants? Well that sounds like a convenient thing to believe doesn't it.
I would say that many of Britain's current problems like domestic terrorism, violent crime levels, housing shortages, medical care shortages, religious and cultural division would all be far less significant if immigration had been curtailed . Some would not exist at all, like honour killings, people trafficking, slavery, fake marriages,forced marriages etc No one white wants to talk about it Edited by TheJudge (20 Mar 2015 2.14pm) No one wants to talk to you. Or your tinfoil hat. That's the spirit. Who said that?? Is that you Enoch??
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pefwin  Where you have to have an English ... 20 Mar 15 6.46pm |
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Quote Johnny Eagles at 20 Mar 2015 10.39am
Quote TUX at 19 Mar 2015 10.35pm
We'll never be out of debt. Someone's been watching two-bit American conspiracy theory videos on YouTube. The Fed is "owned" by commercial banks (actually, it's not really, it's split up into 12 reserve banks which are somewhere between "private" and "public" Except "ownership" doesn't really mean anything in a central banking context, because "owning" a bank means nothing if it comes with no rights or influence and you legally have to do whatever the central bank or government tells you to do. And I suggest you look up the way fractional-reserve banking works before you make financially illiterate comments like, "Because every pound that the Govt has ever borrowed from 'The Bank of England' is loaded with interest." The Bank of England creates credit - on behalf of its "owners", ie, HM government - to keep the whole financial system going. The "debt" the government has to the Bank of England isn't the problem. The problem is the stuff we owe to foreigners (eg, the few hundred billion pounds sterling the Chinese have got stashed away). sorry picked this as it seemed a decent post. The whole issue was driven by leveraging too much debt within Western mature economies, both by countries who suddenly had access to low interest rates due to fraudulently joining the Euro, or... Retail debt, sub-prime backed by companies offering MBSs or CBSs who were triple AAA rated but did not realise the exposure due to ineptness in understanding the debt packaged by the likes of Goldman Sachs. Aside....the estimated margins were massive and many people have still made money on repackaged sub-prime commodities. This was then compounded by the NY Fed saving the likes of AIG, accompany meant to have been AAA rated before the crash, and at home, Northern rock and RBS, etc. the mess which is Lloyds etc. This paring down of margins plus the additional scrutiny has meant that sharp practice, old boy networks and total idiocy, fraud and illegal practices have been exposed in banking companies. For example, I remember some bankers coming on here and saying well it was only fixing LIBOR, without understanding how LIBOR is used in the real world outside trading on computers. rant over.. at least UKIP has had another bad day. one suspension due to fraud, one resignation due to racism.
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Mar 15 10.43am |
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Quote pefwin at 20 Mar 2015 6.46pm
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But still ukip Someone's been watching two-bit American conspiracy theory videos on YouTube. The Fed is "owned" by commercial banks (actually, it's not really, it's split up into 12 reserve banks which are somewhere between "private" and "public" Except "ownership" doesn't really mean anything in a central banking context, because "owning" a bank means nothing if it comes with no rights or influence and you legally have to do whatever the central bank or government tells you to do. And I suggest you look up the way fractional-reserve banking works before you make financially illiterate comments like, "Because every pound that the Govt has ever borrowed from 'The Bank of England' is loaded with interest." The Bank of England creates credit - on behalf of its "owners", ie, HM government - to keep the whole financial system going. The "debt" the government has to the Bank of England isn't the problem. The problem is the stuff we owe to foreigners (eg, the few hundred billion pounds sterling the Chinese have got stashed away). sorry picked this as it seemed a decent post. The whole issue was driven by leveraging too much debt within Western mature economies, both by countries who suddenly had access to low interest rates due to fraudulently joining the Euro, or... Retail debt, sub-prime backed by companies offering MBSs or CBSs who were triple AAA rated but did not realise the exposure due to ineptness in understanding the debt packaged by the likes of Goldman Sachs. Aside....the estimated margins were massive and many people have still made money on repackaged sub-prime commodities. This was then compounded by the NY Fed saving the likes of AIG, accompany meant to have been AAA rated before the crash, and at home, Northern rock and RBS, etc. the mess which is Lloyds etc. This paring down of margins plus the additional scrutiny has meant that sharp practice, old boy networks and total idiocy, fraud and illegal practices have been exposed in banking companies. For example, I remember some bankers coming on here and saying well it was only fixing LIBOR, without understanding how LIBOR is used in the real world outside trading on computers. rant over.. at least UKIP has had another bad day. one suspension due to fraud, one resignation due to racism. But still ukip are ar 14% in the polls. Double that of the effing Greens, Does that hurt you Peffers? The fact that 14% of the country refuses to submit to your PC nazism?
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| pefwin Where you have to have an English ... 21 Mar 15 5.52pm |
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Quote matt_himself at 21 Mar 2015 10.43am
Quote pefwin at 20 Mar 2015 6.46pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 20 Mar 2015 10.39am
Quote TUX at 19 Mar 2015 10.35pm
But still ukip Someone's been watching two-bit American conspiracy theory videos on YouTube. The Fed is "owned" by commercial banks (actually, it's not really, it's split up into 12 reserve banks which are somewhere between "private" and "public" Except "ownership" doesn't really mean anything in a central banking context, because "owning" a bank means nothing if it comes with no rights or influence and you legally have to do whatever the central bank or government tells you to do. And I suggest you look up the way fractional-reserve banking works before you make financially illiterate comments like, "Because every pound that the Govt has ever borrowed from 'The Bank of England' is loaded with interest." The Bank of England creates credit - on behalf of its "owners", ie, HM government - to keep the whole financial system going. The "debt" the government has to the Bank of England isn't the problem. The problem is the stuff we owe to foreigners (eg, the few hundred billion pounds sterling the Chinese have got stashed away). sorry picked this as it seemed a decent post. The whole issue was driven by leveraging too much debt within Western mature economies, both by countries who suddenly had access to low interest rates due to fraudulently joining the Euro, or... Retail debt, sub-prime backed by companies offering MBSs or CBSs who were triple AAA rated but did not realise the exposure due to ineptness in understanding the debt packaged by the likes of Goldman Sachs. Aside....the estimated margins were massive and many people have still made money on repackaged sub-prime commodities. This was then compounded by the NY Fed saving the likes of AIG, accompany meant to have been AAA rated before the crash, and at home, Northern rock and RBS, etc. the mess which is Lloyds etc. This paring down of margins plus the additional scrutiny has meant that sharp practice, old boy networks and total idiocy, fraud and illegal practices have been exposed in banking companies. For example, I remember some bankers coming on here and saying well it was only fixing LIBOR, without understanding how LIBOR is used in the real world outside trading on computers. rant over.. at least UKIP has had another bad day. one suspension due to fraud, one resignation due to racism. But still ukip are ar 14% in the polls. Double that of the effing Greens, Does that hurt you Peffers? The fact that 14% of the country refuses to submit to your PC nazism? Never been called a NAZI before, odd coming from you, but then again I expect you know what one would look like. As for UKIP, I suppose it is 14 times the vote the NF used to get that doesn't hurt but is worrying. It says something for the curtain twitchers, nimbys, and jobs worth that support the core activists of closet racists and fraudsters. I heard on the radio, no party has had so many scandals in such a short time but it almost seems that the hard core don't seem to think that they are doing anything wrong perhaps it reflects their own day-to-day practices and how they treat other people.....or perhaps Cameroon has alienated too badly too many disaffected Tories. Personally I'll not thank you or your like for the Lab/SNP pact that we will have after the election.
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| matt_himself Matataland 21 Mar 15 6.46pm |
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Quote pefwin at 21 Mar 2015 5.52pm
Quote matt_himself at 21 Mar 2015 10.43am
Quote pefwin at 20 Mar 2015 6.46pm
Quote Johnny Eagles at 20 Mar 2015 10.39am
Quote TUX at 19 Mar 2015 10.35pm
But still ukip Someone's been watching two-bit American conspiracy theory videos on YouTube. The Fed is "owned" by commercial banks (actually, it's not really, it's split up into 12 reserve banks which are somewhere between "private" and "public" Except "ownership" doesn't really mean anything in a central banking context, because "owning" a bank means nothing if it comes with no rights or influence and you legally have to do whatever the central bank or government tells you to do. And I suggest you look up the way fractional-reserve banking works before you make financially illiterate comments like, "Because every pound that the Govt has ever borrowed from 'The Bank of England' is loaded with interest." The Bank of England creates credit - on behalf of its "owners", ie, HM government - to keep the whole financial system going. The "debt" the government has to the Bank of England isn't the problem. The problem is the stuff we owe to foreigners (eg, the few hundred billion pounds sterling the Chinese have got stashed away). sorry picked this as it seemed a decent post. The whole issue was driven by leveraging too much debt within Western mature economies, both by countries who suddenly had access to low interest rates due to fraudulently joining the Euro, or... Retail debt, sub-prime backed by companies offering MBSs or CBSs who were triple AAA rated but did not realise the exposure due to ineptness in understanding the debt packaged by the likes of Goldman Sachs. Aside....the estimated margins were massive and many people have still made money on repackaged sub-prime commodities. This was then compounded by the NY Fed saving the likes of AIG, accompany meant to have been AAA rated before the crash, and at home, Northern rock and RBS, etc. the mess which is Lloyds etc. This paring down of margins plus the additional scrutiny has meant that sharp practice, old boy networks and total idiocy, fraud and illegal practices have been exposed in banking companies. For example, I remember some bankers coming on here and saying well it was only fixing LIBOR, without understanding how LIBOR is used in the real world outside trading on computers. rant over.. at least UKIP has had another bad day. one suspension due to fraud, one resignation due to racism. But still ukip are ar 14% in the polls. Double that of the effing Greens, Does that hurt you Peffers? The fact that 14% of the country refuses to submit to your PC nazism? Never been called a NAZI before, odd coming from you, but then again I expect you know what one would look like. As for UKIP, I suppose it is 14 times the vote the NF used to get that doesn't hurt but is worrying. It says something for the curtain twitchers, nimbys, and jobs worth that support the core activists of closet racists and fraudsters. I heard on the radio, no party has had so many scandals in such a short time but it almost seems that the hard core don't seem to think that they are doing anything wrong perhaps it reflects their own day-to-day practices and how they treat other people.....or perhaps Cameroon has alienated too badly too many disaffected Tories. Personally I'll not thank you or your like for the Lab/SNP pact that we will have after the election.
You appear to want the Tories the win despite your PC facism. You are pathetic Peffers.
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| Hoof Hearted 22 Mar 15 9.14am | |
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Quote pefwin at 21 Mar 2015 5.52pm
I heard on the radio, no party has had so many scandals in such a short time but it almost seems that the hard core don't seem to think that they are doing anything wrong perhaps it reflects their own day-to-day practices and how they treat other people.....or perhaps Cameroon has alienated too badly too many disaffected Tories.
Behind the scenes, the likes of Rifkind and Straw's colleagues are getting away with the usual political incentives and sleaze safe in the knowledge that the media are only really interested in what Farage and Co are up to.
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| reborn 22 Mar 15 5.40pm |
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Quote Hoof Hearted at 22 Mar 2015 9.14am
Quote pefwin at 21 Mar 2015 5.52pm
I heard on the radio, no party has had so many scandals in such a short time but it almost seems that the hard core don't seem to think that they are doing anything wrong perhaps it reflects their own day-to-day practices and how they treat other people.....or perhaps Cameroon has alienated too badly too many disaffected Tories.
Behind the scenes, the likes of Rifkind and Straw's colleagues are getting away with the usual political incentives and sleaze safe in the knowledge that the media are only really interested in what Farage and Co are up to.
See the fuss today over the Asian Tory in cahoots with the EDL (allegedly), its the same for all of them TBH.
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| Stirlingsays 22 Mar 15 5.49pm |
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The left wing media are obsessed with attacking the right...Unfortunately I'm starting to accept that the BBC is just so infected with left of centre bias that it can't ever recover a balance....I can't take any of the left's complaints about the Daily Mail seriously anymore as their own media is just as bad.
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Kermit8  Hevon 22 Mar 15 6.25pm |
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It would be hilarious if disaffected Tories and UKIP voters helped Nige get his 15% but, ironically, handed the keys to Downing Street to Labour and the very leftie-pc people they so abhor in doing so. Tragic comedy gold that
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| Stirlingsays 22 Mar 15 7.19pm |
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Quote Kermit8 at 22 Mar 2015 6.25pm
It would be hilarious if disaffected Tories and UKIP voters helped Nige get his 15% but, ironically, handed the keys to Downing Street to Labour and the very leftie-pc people they so abhor in doing so. Tragic comedy gold that There's a reasonable chance of a minority Tory government being kept in power by a pact with Ukip. That would be tragic comedy gold right back at yea Kermy.
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