It's a sad day for Britain.

It's obvious to me that the young have turned out to vote and the are idealistic, naive and have been duped by a charlatan.
As we will now have to accept, the big cities are dictating to the wider country and the ever increasing ethnic vote is a large part of that. Middle England is being screwed once again.

All that said, the Conservative campaign was a shambles.

I think what has been her greatest asset in the past was her greatest weakness now,

"Submarine May"

She used to duck under whenever trouble hit, been away from it and then re-appear at the end without having taken too much collateral damage.

When you are the leader you can't do that. You make it about I, I, I and Me, Me, Me then you have to front it up. Some people are competent but they don't have charisma. Some are charismatic without being competent.

She has gone across as weak, arrogant, dogmatic, passive aggressive and anything but the safe pair of hands she wanted to be portrayed as. She tried to come across as Maggie Thatcher, but didn't have the bollocks to take the criticism when it came her way - hence the Submarine. All the while alienating her core vote by assuming their unwavering loyalty.

Edited by robdave2k (09 Jun 2017 9.59am)

Originally posted by europalace

The younger generations used their vote to stop any kind of 'hard' brexit. It's their future that has been destroyed by the referendum in June 2016, destroyed by the miserable and jealous older generations in the UK. Good for them, they kicked the miserable inward looking and selfish people right where it hurts. Fantastic.

Sorry, I used 'O' level/GCE level English, which might be a tad difficult for you to understand.

I honesty believe that she called the election for the reasons she gave.No doubt, Labour, as predicted said it was for party political gain but I don't believe this was the case.She really wanted strong support for her 'Brexit' negotations.The rest as they say is history.

This is my honest opinion - I'm NOT just saying this in support of Theresa May.

A good night if you are young or sick of the tories and the selfish older generation treating them so badly.

Dare I say those that pushed for Brexit,the mail et al bear some responsibility. Cameron was pushed into the referendum by people who only had their own interests at heart.

It could be argued that Brexit was a vote against austerity, as was yesterday.

Biggest turnaround for a party since 1945. By no means a failure.

Spring in my step today.

She did turn up to some challenging 'Question Time' programmes on TV. She said it was better talking and debating with voters directly than get involved in political squabbles with other party leaders like we saw in that farcical debate, chaired by the hapless Mishal Husain.

I can totally understand her position on this, although the perception was that she was 'Frit'.

Similar here npn - except I abstained as I couldn't bring myself to vote for either of them. (Not that it makes any difference in True Blue Worthing).

Stirling you seem to be taking this rather badly. If anyone has voted opposite to you then they're responsible for the f*cked up country?? Really?

I hate the internet on days like this. When everyone's suddenly become a political genius. F***book becomes a canvas for the world and his wife to spout overexcited political bunkum.

People are pretty simple - the majority of those working in Public Services will vote Labour as they see it as better for Health, Education, more pay rises etc.
The better off silver surfers will vote Tory to protect their shares/pensions etc.

Then a whole load of people will vote the way their family always has done (North East etc.) and then people will vote on whether they like the look of May or Corbyn and what they've read on Facebook and Twitter.

A lot of the public don't know anything about politics yet were trusted to vote on Brexit. Shouldn't that decision have been made by people who know all the implications?
If you put a poster up saying the EU costs us £500 each a day and it all gets spent on propping up the Greek national debt then of course millions will vote out.

It's up to the politicians to convince people that their policies are best and that is what is sadly wrong with Britain now. The Conservative campaign was awful and as Willo said - where were the big hitters? Where the people that could convince the general public?
Corbyn comes across as a guy who wants to help improve the country but doesn't really know how to pay for it all whilst May was pretty anonymous.

Until we get some decent politicians and not this middle of the road bunch who keep pandering to social media then there is no one to vote for.

People want a leader not a mate in parliament.

You fed me, you bred me, I'll remember your name.

Against a democratically elected party representing themselves in parliament.

Says it all about you brother.

Well said