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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 24 May 17 8.02pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Wrong. I post about what I see as the manipulation of what you call British Thought by those with agendas that aren't in the interests of those being manipulated.

As for a plan, tighter controls on online material directly referencing extremist views and tracking of access to that material would be a start. As would getting out of any involvement (that includes arming and training) in the killing of children in, say, Yemen or Syria.

I'd also stop pandering to Qatar, Saudi and the like and start a programme of Gibraltar-style operations to kill the key promulgators of extreme violent hate.

One wonders why our governments allow terrorist armies to operate in plain sight and then cry crocodile tears when those sharing the terrorists' worldview kill people much closer to home.

Over to you.

Edited by Mr_Gristle (24 May 2017 7.05pm)

So, as Stirling said, nothing.

'Stop pandering to Qatar, Saudi and the like and start a programme of Gibraltar-style operations' is so vague and nonsensical, it beggars belief.

 


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Originally posted by matt_himself

So, as Stirling said, nothing.

'Stop pandering to Qatar, Saudi and the like and start a programme of Gibraltar-style operations' is so vague and nonsensical, it beggars belief.

You indeed are Theresa May and I claim my 5. Please note that I am available for manifesto-writing work as I clearly fit the requirements for vagueness you are so keen on.

 


Well I think Simon's head is large; always involved in espionage. (Name that tune)

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 24 May 17 8.16pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

Amber Rudd says we will not allow the terrorists to change our way of life. So why not immediately resume the election campaign?

If they had carried on as usual, you would have complained and you are complaining because they suspended campaigning.

You know it and we all know it. You are trying to make political gain out of the death of children.

 

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View matt_himself's Profile matt_himself Flag Matataland 24 May 17 8.16pm Send a Private Message to matt_himself Add matt_himself as a friend

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

You indeed are Theresa May and I claim my 5. Please note that I am available for manifesto-writing work as I clearly fit the requirements for vagueness you are so keen on.

No, you talk bollocks.

Your 'three point plan' is garbled nonsense. Go back and read it.

You must be a bit embarrassed by it.

 


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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 8.18pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

If they had carried on as usual, you would have complained and you are complaining because they suspended campaigning.

You know it and we all know it. You are trying to make political gain out of the death of children.

No I'm not. False accusation. Please retract.

I agree with suspension of election campaigning for a day. Any longer then democracy is the loser and the terrorists have won

Edited by nickgusset (24 May 2017 8.21pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 24 May 17 8.20pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Thanks for the easy to access summary :-)

Closing ALL religious schools is something I'd love to see happen, and I went to Catholic schools.

Hmm. The "friendly" Islamic countries are the ones exporting the hatred, so not sure about that.

I agree on the principle of revocation of UK access rights / status upon conviction of certain offences, although that would be tough to implement more widely. Wouldn't hurt to try.

However, how do you start to define a "British Way of Life" test and ensure it's universal? Where do you deport a fail if they are nothing other than a British national? I'd set the bar at "anyone owning a Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern Munich shirt" for example.

No tests, all based upon evidence collected by security services and before a court of law. But once a record is there a far easier way through the courts to deport and strip nationality.

You say Islamic countries export the hate.....well...who better to send them back to. A nice little feedback loop. Radicalization here should have a consequence.

Besides this is their problem, none of these countries support attacks on us. Fundamentalists here need to be made to make a choice, live your life peacefully here or live it within an assigned Islamic country which we will pay to take you......and personally I don't care after that.

That's what should happen to people like Anthony Small, who I followed for a time on Youtube.

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Edited by Stirlingsays (24 May 2017 8.22pm)

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 24 May 17 8.21pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

No I'm not. False accusation. Please retract.

When you explain to me why it's not true.

 

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To be fair to Corbyn, I think a low key restart on Friday is fair enough.

He agreed to May's request for an election and an opposition deserves its chance to convince regardless of what I think of it.

 


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Originally posted by nickgusset

No I'm not. False accusation. Please retract.

I agree with suspension of election campaigning for a day. Any longer then democracy is the loser and the terrorists have won

Edited by nickgusset (24 May 2017 8.21pm)

You are still using the bombing to criticise the government.

At a time when we need solidarity that is poor.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 24 May 17 8.29pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

To be fair to Corbyn, I think a low key restart on Friday is fair enough.

He agreed to May's request for an election and an opposition deserves its chance to convince regardless of what I think of it.

Of course but the government is in a no win situation on this.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 8.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

When you explain to me why it's not true.

Because he states that it isn't a false flag and rails against those that do.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 24 May 17 8.31pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

You are still using the bombing to criticise the government.

At a time when we need solidarity that is poor.

Should the government be beyond criticism because people died?

 

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