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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 19 5.20pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

Thats the role of an MP...if they choose to ignore their electorate (save me the boring speech) then they get what they deserve!

They will argue that they are NOT ignoring their electorate by doing what they believe is right. That they need to explain why to them when they face them again is perfectly reasonable. I would rather have someone with a conscience representing me than a sheep who is just lobby fodder. We may just as well elect voting machines if that is all they do.

No-one should face threats of any kind because of their job.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 04 Oct 19 5.23pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

As you keep telling everyone ad nausea he's doesn't have to do what 'we' want...they do what they think is best for the country (and themselves). You cant have it BOTH ways!


Edited by Lyons550 (04 Oct 2019 3.28pm)

Of course. He is as entitled as any other MP to decide what he believes is best.

But he cannot act alone, or in concert with a few others.

It's the collective will of Parliament as a whole which counts.

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I wondered who would make the "whatabout" response.

No it didn't but that's because it wasn't trying to analyse the "remain" campaign, which was weak and often playing catch up. Trying to counter the kind of wild claims made by the "leave" campaign produced some equally wild responses. None were what were needed. Whether they balanced each other is a matter of opinion but as this was no way to try to take such a serious decision the point that the referendum was a total failure is well made.

Just out of interest, Wisbech, how much campaigning did YOU do in the referendum?

 


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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They will argue that they are NOT ignoring their electorate by doing what they believe is right. That they need to explain why to them when they face them again is perfectly reasonable. I would rather have someone with a conscience representing me than a sheep who is just lobby fodder. We may just as well elect voting machines if that is all they do.

No-one should face threats of any kind because of their job.

Tommy robinson!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Oct 19 5.54pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

No it isn't. It consists of you, I and everybody else.

The only place it is judged is in Parliament by their duly elected representatives.

I am I and everybody else is you. That’s exactly what I meant.
The opinion of Parliament is patently not the only criterion by which public opinion is judged, elections, referenda, polls, protests, etc are all indicators. Just because in this mythical place the opinions of some MPs, at that time and on that day, can apparently outweigh the
opinions of millions with complete impunity doesn’t mean they are omniscient. In some cases they are barely sentient.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Oct 19 5.56pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They will argue that they are NOT ignoring their electorate by doing what they believe is right. That they need to explain why to them when they face them again is perfectly reasonable. I would rather have someone with a conscience representing me than a sheep who is just lobby fodder. We may just as well elect voting machines if that is all they do.

No-one should face threats of any kind because of their job.

How does this version differ from a dictatorship other than the fact that we can periodically decide who’s doing the dictating?

 

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Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I wondered who would make the "whatabout" response.

No it didn't but that's because it wasn't trying to analyse the "remain" campaign, which was weak and often playing catch up. Trying to counter the kind of wild claims made by the "leave" campaign produced some equally wild responses. None were what were needed. Whether they balanced each other is a matter of opinion but as this was no way to try to take such a serious decision the point that the referendum was a total failure is well made.

Describing the campaign as week is wrong. It sought to argue logic and convince. They seemed concerned about insulting the people's intelligence. That was a mistake. Had they done just that and done no more than face the camera and repeat a simple 3 word catch phrase ad nauseam they might have won the day.

Imagine that. The fate of this country decided by a better strap line. If there is another referendum suggestion for a remain slogan - it will never end!

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Oct 19 6.03pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

They will argue that they are NOT ignoring their electorate by doing what they believe is right. That they need to explain why to them when they face them again is perfectly reasonable. I would rather have someone with a conscience representing me than a sheep who is just lobby fodder. We may just as well elect voting machines if that is all they do.

No-one should face threats of any kind because of their job.

No. That’s a cop out. If I punch someone in the face then explain I thought he’d look better with new teeth he’s got the right to be unhappy about it even though I might have been acting iwith genuine concern.

 

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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 04 Oct 19 6.54pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Perhaps this should be the new slogan.

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 04 Oct 19 7.04pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by palace_in_frogland

Perhaps this should be the new slogan.

With Juncker saying “You’re my country now Dave”.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

Tommy robinson!

"Tommy Robinson" isn't doing a job though is he?

He is pursuing a personal agenda.

 


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Originally posted by YT

Just out of interest, Wisbech, how much campaigning did YOU do in the referendum?

None. I was out of the country for the months prior. What has that to do with anything?

 


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