This page is no longer updated, and is the old forum. For new topics visit the New HOL forum.
Register | Edit Profile | Subscriptions | Forum Rules | Log In
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
That isn't the point. A second referendum will solve nothing anyway. Much as I don't want any referendums I don't think that is actually true. It won't stop people believing that to either leave or remain in the EU is best for us. What it would solve is knowing how many people still want to leave now we have had 3 years of experience of just how complex and difficult it is to untangle a Union. Knowing that might enable a compromise solution which sees us leaving, but in a way that everyone can live with. Make it strictly advisory, a consultation only, with it clearly understood that Parliament will take the final decision about how to interpret the information. As this Union has lasted just 40 years imagine the problems if Scotland ever did decide to separate.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Much as I don't want any referendums I don't think that is actually true. It won't stop people believing that to either leave or remain in the EU is best for us. What it would solve is knowing how many people still want to leave now we have had 3 years of experience of just how complex and difficult it is to untangle a Union. Knowing that might enable a compromise solution which sees us leaving, but in a way that everyone can live with. Make it strictly advisory, a consultation only, with it clearly understood that Parliament will take the final decision about how to interpret the information. As this Union has lasted just 40 years imagine the problems if Scotland ever did decide to separate. Yawn.
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Much as I don't want any referendums I don't think that is actually true. It won't stop people believing that to either leave or remain in the EU is best for us. What it would solve is knowing how many people still want to leave now we have had 3 years of experience of just how complex and difficult it is to untangle a Union. Knowing that might enable a compromise solution which sees us leaving, but in a way that everyone can live with. Make it strictly advisory, a consultation only, with it clearly understood that Parliament will take the final decision about how to interpret the information. As this Union has lasted just 40 years imagine the problems if Scotland ever did decide to separate. A new referendum must be binding upon the government and parliament with legal and prompt implementation.
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
Originally posted by steeleye20
A new referendum must be binding upon the government and parliament with legal and prompt implementation. Article 50 is binding is it not?
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
Far simpler to revoke article 50 and end the whole sorry episode. As we can see today we will be forever at the EUs beck and call if we leave. An endless trade negotiation dictated to us by the EU. Continued rule from Brussels under EU law. Cancelling costs nothing and preserves our highly undeserved status. The UK had simply taken leave of its senses.
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
With the biggest of them all being the current PM? With a bit of luck we'll all find out on 12th December
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
With the biggest of them all being the current PM? Possibly but I bet he can count.
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Is it so hard to check what you might have missed, either by mistake or deliberately? The question was:- "Please explain where on earth you see an insult in my post?" Now you have two to answer. stop talikng down to me and I may respond
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle
Are you avoiding my question? where are the insults aimed at you?>
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
In regards to a 2nd referendum what is it we supposedly know more about now than we did 3 years ago? The Northern Ireland issue maybe but there is nothing else that is so alarming to warrant a 2nd vote. All we have had in the last 3 years is a constant load of project fear propaganda from remoaners. Yes things might be tough for a bit after leaving but that's life in general, when is life ever a stroll in the park. For the vast majority of us life will hardly change it will just be nice for the UK to have more control over how our country is run and not see millions upon millions going to the EU to waste on vanity projects in other countries which never get completed.
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
Originally posted by the silurian
where are the insults aimed at you?> Scattered throughout these pages so you ought to be able to find some. I am busy so cannot spend time looking for examples.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() |
---|---|
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Article 50 is binding is it not? Triggering Article 50 was a decision made by Parliament.
For the avoidance of doubt any comments in response to a previous post are directed to its ideas and not at any, or all, posters personally. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
Registration is now on our new message board
To login with your existing username you will need to convert your account over to the new message board.
All images and text on this site are copyright © 1999-2025 The Holmesdale Online, unless otherwise stated.
Web Design by Guntrisoft Ltd.