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serial thriller The Promised Land 22 Feb 18 7.36pm
Originally posted by jeeagles He campaigned for remain and lost due the labour heartlands voting to leave. He achieved Labour's second worst election result since Thatcher, despite being up against a Tory party that was putting forward some despicable campaign policies. He's simply proved he's not quite as useless as everyone anticipated. WTF are you talking about? He got the same share of the vote Blair got in 2005, and smashed Kinnock, Brown and Milliband's results. In fact, Labour achieved the greatest swing in the vote in the post war era I believe. Trying to rewrite history as if the election was a failure is ridiculous. Despite a near unprecedented bombardment against Corbyn by all the mainstream media and most of his own parliamentary party, all of whom never dreamt a 10% swing to Labour was plausible. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

serial thriller

The Promised Land 22 Feb 18 7.36pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

He campaigned for remain and lost due the labour heartlands voting to leave.

He achieved Labour's second worst election result since Thatcher, despite being up against a Tory party that was putting forward some despicable campaign policies.

He's simply proved he's not quite as useless as everyone anticipated.

WTF are you talking about? He got the same share of the vote Blair got in 2005, and smashed Kinnock, Brown and Milliband's results.

In fact, Labour achieved the greatest swing in the vote in the post war era I believe. Trying to rewrite history as if the election was a failure is ridiculous. Despite a near unprecedented bombardment against Corbyn by all the mainstream media and most of his own parliamentary party, all of whom never dreamt a 10% swing to Labour was plausible.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 22 Feb 18 7.41pm
Originally posted by serial thriller In the poll though, only 21% of Londoners listed Brexit as one of their most important issues. The Tories are in a paralysis because they can't as a party move on from Brexit. They pretty much literally have nothing else to say. In my mind, what Labour have managed to do so successfully is break the recent political concensus that to win an election, you have to scare first and foremost, and that inspiring hope was a doomed mission. Labour have put forward a message which - whether you agree with it or not - is inspirational to millions of people in this country. What is inspirational, in any way, about a ruling party with a woman in meltdown as leader, chased by a pack of power hungry but incompetent cabinet ministers, with little or no policy substance, who have tied all their flags to the Brexit mast and are watching as the ship sinks in to the fcking channel? Labour will win the next election with a bigger majority than anything Blair managed. That's my prediction. I mean, just look at how efficiently the Corbyn spy story has been slapped down and laughed off. The Establishment are bricking it because they have lost control over the narrative. If you needed any further proof of the utter incompetence of the current Tory mob, it is that they decided to stay in power at the last election. The smart thing to have done would've been to let some grand coalition in to fck things up, regroup in the wings and ride back in 18 months later. That they were so mercilessly Macchiavellian, allthewhile being completely out of ideas, is simply marvellous. hear hear!

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 22 Feb 18 7.41pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

In the poll though, only 21% of Londoners listed Brexit as one of their most important issues.

The Tories are in a paralysis because they can't as a party move on from Brexit. They pretty much literally have nothing else to say.

In my mind, what Labour have managed to do so successfully is break the recent political concensus that to win an election, you have to scare first and foremost, and that inspiring hope was a doomed mission. Labour have put forward a message which - whether you agree with it or not - is inspirational to millions of people in this country.

What is inspirational, in any way, about a ruling party with a woman in meltdown as leader, chased by a pack of power hungry but incompetent cabinet ministers, with little or no policy substance, who have tied all their flags to the Brexit mast and are watching as the ship sinks in to the f*cking channel?

Labour will win the next election with a bigger majority than anything Blair managed. That's my prediction. I mean, just look at how efficiently the Corbyn spy story has been slapped down and laughed off. The Establishment are bricking it because they have lost control over the narrative.

If you needed any further proof of the utter incompetence of the current Tory mob, it is that they decided to stay in power at the last election. The smart thing to have done would've been to let some grand coalition in to f*ck things up, regroup in the wings and ride back in 18 months later. That they were so mercilessly Macchiavellian, allthewhile being completely out of ideas, is simply marvellous.

hear hear!

crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 22 Feb 18 8.04pm
Originally posted by jeeagles He campaigned for remain and lost due the labour heartlands voting to leave. He achieved Labour's second worst election result since Thatcher, despite being up against a Tory party that was putting forward some despicable campaign policies. He's simply proved he's not quite as useless as everyone anticipated. Edited by crystal balls (22 Feb 2018 8.05pm) I used to be immortal

crystal balls

The Garden of Earthly Delights 22 Feb 18 8.04pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

He campaigned for remain and lost due the labour heartlands voting to leave.

He achieved Labour's second worst election result since Thatcher, despite being up against a Tory party that was putting forward some despicable campaign policies.

He's simply proved he's not quite as useless as everyone anticipated.

Edited by crystal balls (22 Feb 2018 8.05pm)

I used to be immortal

crystal balls The Garden of Earthly Delights 22 Feb 18 8.04pm
Originally posted by crystal balls Are you drunk!!! He was one of the Labour leave group! If you are unaware of that you have no validity in commenting! He also achieved a very creditable result in the election despite the Tories getting a much higher share of vote due to the collapse of the Liberal vote. You should check your facts before posting nonsense. I used to be immortal

crystal balls

The Garden of Earthly Delights 22 Feb 18 8.04pm

Originally posted by crystal balls

Are you drunk!!! He was one of the Labour leave group! If you are unaware of that you have no validity in commenting! He also achieved a very creditable result in the election despite the Tories getting a much higher share of vote due to the collapse of the Liberal vote. You should check your facts before posting nonsense.

I used to be immortal

steeleye20 Croydon 22 Feb 18 8.54pm
A good week for JC a free gift calling him a communist spy. Although I think most of us automatically think anything in these press rags is rubbish anyway. People should not confuse brexit with Corbyn all the time. An economic downturn could prove to be a roller-coaster. People forget there was a recession just before Mrs T's demise. It brings things sharply into focus, for a party in power for some years it shows their economic policies cannot work, as how could there be a recession if they had been right. For the opposition they have not been in power and people may well decide enough and let's change.

steeleye20

Croydon 22 Feb 18 8.54pm

A good week for JC a free gift calling him a communist spy.

Although I think most of us automatically think anything in these press rags is rubbish anyway.

People should not confuse brexit with Corbyn all the time.

An economic downturn could prove to be a roller-coaster.

People forget there was a recession just before Mrs T's demise.

It brings things sharply into focus, for a party in power for some years it shows their economic policies cannot work, as how could there be a recession if they had been right.

For the opposition they have not been in power and people may well decide enough and let's change.

jeeagles 22 Feb 18 9.40pm
Originally posted by serial thriller WTF are you talking about? He got the same share of the vote Blair got in 2005, and smashed Kinnock, Brown and Milliband's results. In fact, Labour achieved the greatest swing in the vote in the post war era I believe. Trying to rewrite history as if the election was a failure is ridiculous. Despite a near unprecedented bombardment against Corbyn by all the mainstream media and most of his own parliamentary party, all of whom never dreamt a 10% swing to Labour was plausible. Tony Blair won. Only Ed Miliband won less seats. Where those statistics prepared by Diane Abbott? Getting a big swing from the worst result to the second worse result isn't necessarily a good thing. It's like being the useless kid who gets the most improved award for being less s*** than they used to be. I'm not trying to rewrite history, but if you can find any historians who believe losing is a success then I will stand down my argument.

jeeagles

22 Feb 18 9.40pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

WTF are you talking about? He got the same share of the vote Blair got in 2005, and smashed Kinnock, Brown and Milliband's results.

Tony Blair won.
Only Ed Miliband won less seats.
Where those statistics prepared by Diane Abbott?

Getting a big swing from the worst result to the second worse result isn't necessarily a good thing. It's like being the useless kid who gets the most improved award for being less s*** than they used to be.

I'm not trying to rewrite history, but if you can find any historians who believe losing is a success then I will stand down my argument.

serial thriller The Promised Land 22 Feb 18 11.09pm
Originally posted by jeeagles Tony Blair won. Only Ed Miliband won less seats. Where those statistics prepared by Diane Abbott? Getting a big swing from the worst result to the second worse result isn't necessarily a good thing. It's like being the useless kid who gets the most improved award for being less s*** than they used to be. I'm not trying to rewrite history, but if you can find any historians who believe losing is a success then I will stand down my argument. There is a common motif in historical analysis known as a Pyrrhic victory, whereby winning the battle effectively loses you the war, and vice versa. May might have won the last election, but Corbyn has completely altered the political narrative in this country. He has done this despite a bombardment from the media bordering on deranged and paranoid, as was embarrassingly shown this week with this Czech spy. The reason Labour didn't win a greater number of seats was because of the major losses that Blairism suffered in Scotland. In London it looks like theyre on course for historic gains. The next election will be the same IMO. After the disaster of the Blairite triangulation projects final years, any Labour recovery was always likely to take a decade. Corbyn will achieve it, all the while making Labour the biggest and most vibrant political party in Europe. We will win and we will win on our own terms. That is what it is about now. If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

serial thriller

The Promised Land 22 Feb 18 11.09pm

Originally posted by jeeagles

Tony Blair won.
Only Ed Miliband won less seats.
Where those statistics prepared by Diane Abbott?

I'm not trying to rewrite history, but if you can find any historians who believe losing is a success then I will stand down my argument.

There is a common motif in historical analysis known as a Pyrrhic victory, whereby winning the battle effectively loses you the war, and vice versa.

May might have won the last election, but Corbyn has completely altered the political narrative in this country. He has done this despite a bombardment from the media bordering on deranged and paranoid, as was embarrassingly shown this week with this Czech spy.

The reason Labour didn't win a greater number of seats was because of the major losses that Blairism suffered in Scotland. In London it looks like theyre on course for historic gains. The next election will be the same IMO. After the disaster of the Blairite triangulation projects final years, any Labour recovery was always likely to take a decade. Corbyn will achieve it, all the while making Labour the biggest and most vibrant political party in Europe.

We will win and we will win on our own terms. That is what it is about now.

If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

jeeagles 22 Feb 18 11.37pm
Originally posted by serial thriller There is a common motif in historical analysis known as a Pyrrhic victory, whereby winning the battle effectively loses you the war, and vice versa. May might have won the last election, but Corbyn has completely altered the political narrative in this country. He has done this despite a bombardment from the media bordering on deranged and paranoid, as was embarrassingly shown this week with this Czech spy. The reason Labour didn't win a greater number of seats was because of the major losses that Blairism suffered in Scotland. In London it looks like theyre on course for historic gains. The next election will be the same IMO. After the disaster of the Blairite triangulation projects final years, any Labour recovery was always likely to take a decade. Corbyn will achieve it, all the while making Labour the biggest and most vibrant political party in Europe. We will win and we will win on our own terms. That is what it is about now. I see what your trying to get at, but the Tories are in government so Labour lost the war. Prehaps if momentum lost the battle to progress, then the tories might not be in government. The last time the labour centre ground had control of the party, they won 3 straight elections with two landslides. Where as Corbyn only managed to do slightly better than red ed, despite the fact he was up against a much weaker government and was aided by the dramatic fall of the SNP. All this talk about having changed the political narrative is nonsense, they have barely clipped the wings of the tories. All that it’s done is curtail the very right wing policies they were trying to push through. Momentum sole aim is to have a socialist Labour Party and couldn’t care less about appealing for the centre ground. Sensible members of the Labour Party realise that this will mean they will never form a government. Unfortunately, it seems it will take another good thrashing in a general election Corbynisters to realise this, so that looks like at least another 9 years of Conservative government.

jeeagles

22 Feb 18 11.37pm

Originally posted by serial thriller

There is a common motif in historical analysis known as a Pyrrhic victory, whereby winning the battle effectively loses you the war, and vice versa.

We will win and we will win on our own terms. That is what it is about now.

I see what your trying to get at, but the Tories are in government so Labour lost the war.

Prehaps if momentum lost the battle to progress, then the tories might not be in government. The last time the labour centre ground had control of the party, they won 3 straight elections with two landslides. Where as Corbyn only managed to do slightly better than red ed, despite the fact he was up against a much weaker government and was aided by the dramatic fall of the SNP.

All this talk about having changed the political narrative is nonsense, they have barely clipped the wings of the tories. All that it’s done is curtail the very right wing policies they were trying to push through.

Momentum sole aim is to have a socialist Labour Party and couldn’t care less about appealing for the centre ground. Sensible members of the Labour Party realise that this will mean they will never form a government. Unfortunately, it seems it will take another good thrashing in a general election Corbynisters to realise this, so that looks like at least another 9 years of Conservative government.

steeleye20 Croydon 23 Feb 18 11.30am
The problem for the UK is not who is elected so much but whether they are important any more. An unstable UK temporarily upsetting the status quo in the world with brexit, but thereafter not at the table and treated with polite indifference. Dogged by economic woes self-inflicted.

steeleye20

Croydon 23 Feb 18 11.30am

The problem for the UK is not who is elected so much but whether they are important any more.

An unstable UK temporarily upsetting the status quo in the world with brexit, but thereafter not at the table and treated with polite indifference.

Dogged by economic woes self-inflicted.

croydon proud Any european country i fancy! 24 Feb 18 8.48pm
Conservative mp ben bradley has agreed to apologise for posting a tweet in which he said jeremy corbyn had passed british secrets to a spy from communist czechoslovakia ,he will donate an undisclosed sum to a charity of jeremys choice and agreed not to repeat the allegation.He has agreed to say the whole tweet was TOTALLY UNTRUE AND FALSE! Con by name, con by nature!

croydon proud

Any european country i fancy! 24 Feb 18 8.48pm

Conservative mp ben bradley has agreed to apologise for posting a tweet in which he said jeremy corbyn had passed british secrets to a spy from communist czechoslovakia ,he will donate an undisclosed sum to a charity of jeremys choice and agreed not to repeat the allegation.He has agreed to say the whole tweet was TOTALLY UNTRUE AND FALSE! Con by name, con by nature!

Penge Eagle Beckenham 01 Mar 18 5.03am
Jeremy Corbyn colluding with the EU's Michel Barnier – putting Britain LAST his entire political career! Edited by Penge Eagle (01 Mar 2018 5.06am)

Penge Eagle

Beckenham 01 Mar 18 5.03am

Jeremy Corbyn colluding with the EU's Michel Barnier – putting Britain LAST his entire political career!

Edited by Penge Eagle (01 Mar 2018 5.06am)

mezzer Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 01 Mar 18 11.35am
Originally posted by steeleye20 A good week for JC a free gift calling him a communist spy. Although I think most of us automatically think anything in these press rags is rubbish anyway. People should not confuse brexit with Corbyn all the time. An economic downturn could prove to be a roller-coaster. People forget there was a recession just before Mrs T's demise. It brings things sharply into focus, for a party in power for some years it shows their economic policies cannot work, as how could there be a recession if they had been right. For the opposition they have not been in power and people may well decide enough and let's change. You make a VERY good and valid point here Steeleye that no one is taking into account. The next global recession will blow in probably around 2020 and, as you say, there is nothing an incumbent government can do about it. Because of the 2017 elections across Europe, most opposition parties are Eurosceptic. As we all know, it s far easier to be in opposition than in power, whoever you are, and so when the next round of elections take place in France, Holland, Germany, Italy, Austria etc etc they will most likely be on the back of a quite nasty global recession that will have seen Trump off as well. The unity of Europe will come under greater pressure than it did in 2011 and may not survive. By that time, the UK will either be in or out. If we're still in, we'd have cemented ourselves into a period of unprecedented turmoil, similar I should guess, to the Soviet Union break up. If we're out, at least the effects of the disruption caused by leaving will be known. I suspect if we could fast forward 15-20 years we'll be part of a European group consisting of the UK, Germany, France, Benelux countries and Spain and Italy. Bit like the original Common Market really. Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

mezzer

Main Stand, Block F, Row 20 seat 1... 01 Mar 18 11.35am

Originally posted by steeleye20

A good week for JC a free gift calling him a communist spy.

Although I think most of us automatically think anything in these press rags is rubbish anyway.

People should not confuse brexit with Corbyn all the time.

An economic downturn could prove to be a roller-coaster.

People forget there was a recession just before Mrs T's demise.

It brings things sharply into focus, for a party in power for some years it shows their economic policies cannot work, as how could there be a recession if they had been right.

For the opposition they have not been in power and people may well decide enough and let's change.

You make a VERY good and valid point here Steeleye that no one is taking into account.

The next global recession will blow in probably around 2020 and, as you say, there is nothing an incumbent government can do about it.

Because of the 2017 elections across Europe, most opposition parties are Eurosceptic. As we all know, it s far easier to be in opposition than in power, whoever you are, and so when the next round of elections take place in France, Holland, Germany, Italy, Austria etc etc they will most likely be on the back of a quite nasty global recession that will have seen Trump off as well. The unity of Europe will come under greater pressure than it did in 2011 and may not survive.

By that time, the UK will either be in or out. If we're still in, we'd have cemented ourselves into a period of unprecedented turmoil, similar I should guess, to the Soviet Union break up. If we're out, at least the effects of the disruption caused by leaving will be known.

I suspect if we could fast forward 15-20 years we'll be part of a European group consisting of the UK, Germany, France, Benelux countries and Spain and Italy. Bit like the original Common Market really.

Living down here does have some advantages. At least you can see them cry.

steeleye20 Croydon 01 Mar 18 2.35pm
Originally posted by mezzer You make a VERY good and valid point here Steeleye that no one is taking into account. The next global recession will blow in probably around 2020 and, as you say, there is nothing an incumbent government can do about it. Because of the 2017 elections across Europe, most opposition parties are Eurosceptic. As we all know, it s far easier to be in opposition than in power, whoever you are, and so when the next round of elections take place in France, Holland, Germany, Italy, Austria etc etc they will most likely be on the back of a quite nasty global recession that will have seen Trump off as well. The unity of Europe will come under greater pressure than it did in 2011 and may not survive. By that time, the UK will either be in or out. If we're still in, we'd have cemented ourselves into a period of unprecedented turmoil, similar I should guess, to the Soviet Union break up. If we're out, at least the effects of the disruption caused by leaving will be known. I suspect if we could fast forward 15-20 years we'll be part of a European group consisting of the UK, Germany, France, Benelux countries and Spain and Italy. Bit like the original Common Market really. Regards M and interesting points about how things may look.

steeleye20

Croydon 01 Mar 18 2.35pm

Originally posted by mezzer

You make a VERY good and valid point here Steeleye that no one is taking into account.

The next global recession will blow in probably around 2020 and, as you say, there is nothing an incumbent government can do about it.

Regards M and interesting points about how things may look.

Badger11 Beckenham 29 Apr 18 9.24am
The Labour party and Momentum got a lot of kudos at the last election for their social media campaign. It now turns out they had a little help from Moscow. Rather ironic considering how excited the left have been about Trump's election win and fake news. Will they be as angry about Russian interference in our general election? I couldn't find this story on the main BBC news website which is strange as they seem very interested in fake news and normally make them headline stories. However I did find a fake news story about misleading reviews on products like kettles on Amazon. Nice to see the BBC has its priorities right. One thing I have noticed about the BBC is it either ignores certain stories or buries them in the website so you have to go looking for them. Meanwhile the Tories are trying to revamp their social media campaign. Perhaps a phone call to Moscow for assistance? [Link] One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 29 Apr 18 9.24am

The Labour party and Momentum got a lot of kudos at the last election for their social media campaign. It now turns out they had a little help from Moscow. Rather ironic considering how excited the left have been about Trump's election win and fake news.

Will they be as angry about Russian interference in our general election?

I couldn't find this story on the main BBC news website which is strange as they seem very interested in fake news and normally make them headline stories. However I did find a fake news story about misleading reviews on products like kettles on Amazon. Nice to see the BBC has its priorities right. One thing I have noticed about the BBC is it either ignores certain stories or buries them in the website so you have to go looking for them.

Meanwhile the Tories are trying to revamp their social media campaign. Perhaps a phone call to Moscow for assistance?

[Link]

One more point

.TUX. 29 Apr 18 10.30am
Originally posted by mezzer You make a VERY good and valid point here Steeleye that no one is taking into account. The next global recession will blow in probably around 2020 and, as you say, there is nothing an incumbent government can do about it. Because of the 2017 elections across Europe, most opposition parties are Eurosceptic. As we all know, it s far easier to be in opposition than in power, whoever you are, and so when the next round of elections take place in France, Holland, Germany, Italy, Austria etc etc they will most likely be on the back of a quite nasty global recession that will have seen Trump off as well. The unity of Europe will come under greater pressure than it did in 2011 and may not survive. By that time, the UK will either be in or out. If we're still in, we'd have cemented ourselves into a period of unprecedented turmoil, similar I should guess, to the Soviet Union break up. If we're out, at least the effects of the disruption caused by leaving will be known. I suspect if we could fast forward 15-20 years we'll be part of a European group consisting of the UK, Germany, France, Benelux countries and Spain and Italy. Bit like the original Common Market really. Far too many economic indicators/precedents suggest that it'll 'land' sooner than that. Historically low interest rates coupled with years upon years of debt-laden QE (printed from thin-air) have failed dismally to stimulate any kind of growth in real terms. Watch the bond market. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

29 Apr 18 10.30am

Originally posted by mezzer

You make a VERY good and valid point here Steeleye that no one is taking into account.

The next global recession will blow in probably around 2020 and, as you say, there is nothing an incumbent government can do about it.

Far too many economic indicators/precedents suggest that it'll 'land' sooner than that.
Historically low interest rates coupled with years upon years of debt-laden QE (printed from thin-air) have failed dismally to stimulate any kind of growth in real terms.

Watch the bond market.

Buy Litecoin.

Hrolf The Ganger 29 Apr 18 11.53am
If Labour are elected under Corbyn all we will see is inflation fueled by pay rises to the big unions just like the 70's under Callaghan. You can blame Bretton Woods for the instability of the pound back then but you can't blame it for the relationship between Labour and the Unions which will return us to the bad old days with Len McClusky and the like effectively calling the shots.

Hrolf The Ganger

29 Apr 18 11.53am

If Labour are elected under Corbyn all we will see is inflation fueled by pay rises to the big unions just like the 70's under Callaghan.
You can blame Bretton Woods for the instability of the pound back then but you can't blame it for the relationship between Labour and the Unions which will return us to the bad old days with Len McClusky and the like effectively calling the shots.

Stirlingsays 29 Apr 18 12.28pm
Originally posted by .TUX. Far too many economic indicators/precedents suggest that it'll 'land' sooner than that. Historically low interest rates coupled with years upon years of debt-laden QE (printed from thin-air) have failed dismally to stimulate any kind of growth in real terms. Watch the bond market. But this is boom and bust. If 2008 can't take the system down nothing can. The taxpayer is the lender of last resort. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

29 Apr 18 12.28pm

Originally posted by .TUX.

Watch the bond market.

But this is boom and bust. If 2008 can't take the system down nothing can.

The taxpayer is the lender of last resort.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays 29 Apr 18 12.33pm
Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger If Labour are elected under Corbyn all we will see is inflation fueled by pay rises to the big unions just like the 70's under Callaghan. You can blame Bretton Woods for the instability of the pound back then but you can't blame it for the relationship between Labour and the Unions which will return us to the bad old days with Len McClusky and the like effectively calling the shots. The number of people who believe in Corbyn amazes me. I know there's a lot of young people in there who have never experienced living in a socialistic society and only have warm worded rhetoric and concepts....but still. The number of people who don't understand basic economics is amazing. I recommend they read Sowell's book on it. Personally, a part of me is hoping that Corbyn and the far left actually win and gain office. Because it's at that point that all these morons have to answer for the mess. I know they will finger point and deflect when that happens but the rational amongst them will have to take their medicine. A Corbyn will give rise to another Thatcher figure and the cycle will repeat itself similar to the seventies. Hang on....who am I kidding, these aren't self reflective individuals. No, instead the only satisfaction will be in seeing their worldviews being shown for the emotive driven BS that they are. Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Apr 2018 12.36pm) 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

29 Apr 18 12.33pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The number of people who believe in Corbyn amazes me. I know there's a lot of young people in there who have never experienced living in a socialistic society and only have warm worded rhetoric and concepts....but still.

The number of people who don't understand basic economics is amazing. I recommend they read Sowell's book on it.

Personally, a part of me is hoping that Corbyn and the far left actually win and gain office. Because it's at that point that all these morons have to answer for the mess.

I know they will finger point and deflect when that happens but the rational amongst them will have to take their medicine. A Corbyn will give rise to another Thatcher figure and the cycle will repeat itself similar to the seventies.

Hang on....who am I kidding, these aren't self reflective individuals. No, instead the only satisfaction will be in seeing their worldviews being shown for the emotive driven BS that they are.

Edited by Stirlingsays (29 Apr 2018 12.36pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

johnno42000 29 Apr 18 12.41pm
I think we should be wary of accusations of Russia being involved with the Labour party as it has been found to be false before [Link] 'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

johnno42000

29 Apr 18 12.41pm

I think we should be wary of accusations of Russia being involved with the Labour party as it has been found to be false before [Link]

'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

Stirlingsays 29 Apr 18 12.44pm
Originally posted by johnno42000 I think we should be wary of accusations of Russia being involved with the Labour party as it has been found to be false before [Link] What nearly a 100 years ago? No one with half a brain needs to worry about malicious foreign interest affecting the Labour party. Corbyn hates the British state anyway. If a foreign power has had any beef with it he's never supported the British state. 'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Stirlingsays

29 Apr 18 12.44pm

Originally posted by johnno42000

I think we should be wary of accusations of Russia being involved with the Labour party as it has been found to be false before [Link]

What nearly a 100 years ago?

No one with half a brain needs to worry about malicious foreign interest affecting the Labour party. Corbyn hates the British state anyway. If a foreign power has had any beef with it he's never supported the British state.

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

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