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Originally posted by davidpercival
It doesn't matter who is the new leader or how slick their campaign is, the Tories have lost the argument on austerity. They have either got to hold their hands up and say that all the pain they have inflicted on Britain for the last 7 years was completely unnecessary or come back at the next election and say the same as they did in the recent one and say we have got to have public sector cuts for the next 10 years. The Tories are on the rack and have no way of getting off it. It couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of millionaires. Osborne admitted this 'mistake' long ago.
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Originally posted by .TUX.
Osborne admitted this 'mistake' long ago. One of the benefits of being rich and powerful is that you make the rules. If poor people were suddenly made rich tomorrow they would do exactly the same. However it would be nice to have some details to flesh out your gross generalisation about the fraudulent rich.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
A change for the worse is in no one's interests. Poor Canterbury. They are now stuck with a Labour MP while all the students can just go home. That rule really needs to change. As opposed to them being perhaps stuck "at home" in a country market town with a paid-for Tory MP who is on the board of a private health company with a side interest in dementia care homes?
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Originally posted by Rudi Hedman
Didn't Blair and 95% of the Labour Party do the same? When does Blair break his silence? For once I want to hear. Indeed they did. And now a few of them owe Corbyn their jobs, which is highly amusing. I'm keen to hear Blair utter some further wisdom, as he ascends the scaffold for his war crimes.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
One of the benefits of being rich and powerful is that you make the rules. If poor people were suddenly made rich tomorrow they would do exactly the same. However it would be nice to have some details to flesh out your gross generalisation about the fraudulent rich. You'd find many if you spent far less time here.
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Originally posted by Romford-Eagle
People seem to forget why were in austerity, cos the Labour party spent all the money while they were in power, I would also change the voting system so you must be 25 to vote, this election showed that youngsters are to easily led, and not voting for what's best for the country, this should be left to the more mature electorate who know better.... Banking crisis? Also I think you miss the point of democracy that even people who don't agree with you get a say.
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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger
Perhaps the economics expert can explain how the Wall Street Crash or Black Wednesday occurred in his world of economic certainty. Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (11 Jun 2017 7.24pm) A lack of regulation in a system that operates on self interest. Whilst planned economies don't seem to work neither do unregulated capitalist ecconomies
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
A lack of regulation in a system that operates on self interest. Whilst planned economies don't seem to work neither do unregulated capitalist ecconomies Free markets work better more often. Of course there are booms and busts - that's life. Socialist economies (and highly regulated capitalist cartels like the EU) just have a continual decline into, at best, mediocrity. To think that a few economists in Whitehall or Brussels can out guess market forces is absurd, their 'plans' lumbering along in the wake of events, years out of date, until even they are forced to recognise reality and abandon them - only of course to construct a new set of magic 'answers'. Edited by hedgehog50 (12 Jun 2017 8.15am)
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Free markets work better more often. Of course there are booms and busts - that's life. Socialist economies just have a continual decline into, at best, mediocrity. To think that a few economists in Whitehall or Brussels can out guess market forces is absurd, their 'plans' lumbering along in the wake of events, years out of date, until even they are forced to recognise reality and abandon them - only of course to construct a new set of magic 'answers'. Edited by hedgehog50 (12 Jun 2017 8.03am) Would you call The Nordic Model far too socialist even though its results are better than the systems we have here? All that state intervention and leftist ideals? What the hell are they playing at?
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Free markets work better more often. Of course there are booms and busts - that's life. Socialist economies (and highly regulated capitalist cartels like the EU) just have a continual decline into, at best, mediocrity. To think that a few economists in Whitehall or Brussels can out guess market forces is absurd, their 'plans' lumbering along in the wake of events, years out of date, until even they are forced to recognise reality and abandon them - only of course to construct a new set of magic 'answers'. Edited by hedgehog50 (12 Jun 2017 8.15am) I think the reality lies between the two concepts. Regulation is necessary to protect markets from their own internal dangers. Any kind of system needs rules in place in order to maintain the functional purpose to which it is supposed to provide to society. Look at the housing market - Poorly regulated and we're now in a situation where the functionality of providing accommodation to people has become seriously compromised - with costs of rent being a massive cost of living - because this market was never properly regulated as a means of providing accommodation; and instead became a profitable means of generating large revenue, without sufficient taxation and control to at least feed than income back into providing accommodation.
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Free markets work better more often. Of course there are booms and busts - that's life. Socialist economies (and highly regulated capitalist cartels like the EU) just have a continual decline into, at best, mediocrity. To think that a few economists in Whitehall or Brussels can out guess market forces is absurd, their 'plans' lumbering along in the wake of events, years out of date, until even they are forced to recognise reality and abandon them - only of course to construct a new set of magic 'answers'. Edited by hedgehog50 (12 Jun 2017 8.15am) Economists don't try and put guess markets. Their interest is how best to allocate scarce resources. If you'd rather live in the US than France then you're mad.
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Originally posted by CambridgeEagle
Economists don't try and put guess markets. Their interest is how best to allocate scarce resources. If you'd rather live in the US than France then you're mad. Certainly I'd rather live in the USA than France. Judging from the lack of Americans fleeing the USA to France, many would agree with me.
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
I think the reality lies between the two concepts. Regulation is necessary to protect markets from their own internal dangers. Any kind of system needs rules in place in order to maintain the functional purpose to which it is supposed to provide to society. Look at the housing market - Poorly regulated and we're now in a situation where the functionality of providing accommodation to people has become seriously compromised - with costs of rent being a massive cost of living - because this market was never properly regulated as a means of providing accommodation; and instead became a profitable means of generating large revenue, without sufficient taxation and control to at least feed than income back into providing accommodation. Planning regulations, housing regulations, rental regulations, property taxes, rigged interest rates, uncontrollable immigration, all conspire together to inhibit market forces supplying demand.
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The reshuffle was a demonstration not of strength but of weakness, Theresa May’s last feeble bid to cling to ebbing power.
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Originally posted by Kermit8
Would you call The Nordic Model far too socialist even though its results are better than the systems we have here? All that state intervention and leftist ideals? What the hell are they playing at? The Nordic countries are capitalist, albeit with high taxation and state regulation. Their set up is largely a result of the people and their cultural outlook, a willingness to choose to work through their political differences for what they see as the greater good of all. With the mass immigration that their governments have actively encouraged, they have a large influx of newcomers seeking to enjoy the generous public benefits, while not necessarily having a culture of making decisions on behalf of the common good - to say the least.
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Originally posted by steeleye20
The reshuffle was a demonstration not of strength but of weakness, Theresa May’s last feeble bid to cling to ebbing power. Very lame post even for you steeleye.
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