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susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 13 Jun 17 1.50pm

Originally posted by europalace

Really? Well, you must have been one of the British expats we see here (although less and less as each year goes by), they frequent the Irish pubs, frequent cafes that serve English breakfasts and generally try and keep their lives as 'British' as possible. That of course means they learn little about the culture, history or real day to day life here. If you had, you would know that it's a big financial centre, is the biggest centre for English language training in Europe and over 100,000 divers come here every year , a huge industry. Not bad for a country with a population of only 420,000. Malta never suffered in the 2008-2011 recession as it's economy is very robust. GDP growth 'slowed' to 4.2% in Q1 this year, a rate the UK can only dream about:

"Economy slows, but growth remains more than double eurozone average GDP grew by 4.2 per cent in Q1, NSO figures show"

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So, yeah a little bit more than fishing and Tourism but while on the subject of fishing, it has the largest fish farming industry in the Mediterranean, exporting €millions of bluefin/yellowfin Tuna to Japan where only the best quality is accepted.


Edited by europalace (13 Jun 2017 1.18pm)

Wrong again I was out there as Marine in 41 Commando sorting out Mintoff for the Maltese people when Gadhafi was trying to take over the Island. You really do come out with some cr@p most of the time. As I said all Malta has is the fishing and the tourism.

 


Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

DanH Flag SW2 13 Jun 17 2.04pm

Originally posted by susmik

That is quite true as in Plymouth the thousands of students we have here actually got out of bed to vote "for FREE tuition fees" and they have admitted it in the press. That's how the Labour got the one and only Labour seat in Plymouth.

Please do keep this attitude up; it will see Labour romp home in the next election.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Jun 17 2.05pm

Originally posted by susmik

Wrong again I was out there as Marine in 41 Commando sorting out Mintoff for the Maltese people when Gadhafi was trying to take over the Island. You really do come out with some cr@p most of the time. As I said all Malta has is the fishing and the tourism.

Malta has a flourishing business community including IT and has benefited from its EU membership.

You may have been there 25 years ago but its quite different now not that there is anything wrong in tourism or fishing anyway.


 

europalace Flag Europe 13 Jun 17 2.07pm

Originally posted by susmik

Wrong again I was out there as Marine in 41 Commando sorting out Mintoff for the Maltese people when Gadhafi was trying to take over the Island. You really do come out with some cr@p most of the time. As I said all Malta has is the fishing and the tourism.


So, more than 40 years ago. So how can a country have a GDP growth of more than double that of the Eurozone and nearly 3 times that of the UK based on an economy of fishing and tourism? You are clearly totally uneducated on this subject and probably on your own country, the UK also.

Your experience of Malta 40 years ago is totally irrelevant compared to that of today. You are 100% wrong about the country I live in and a typical close minded Brit who hasn't got a clue about Europe let alone the EU. You really are an embarrassment to your country and a probable reason why so many young British voters voted the opposite way to you.


Edited by europalace (13 Jun 2017 2.09pm)

 

europalace Flag Europe 13 Jun 17 2.08pm

Edited by europalace (13 Jun 2017 2.11pm)

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Jun 17 3.33pm

If an agreement between Mrs May and The DUP threatens the Northern Ireland peace process, then Mrs May, who is seeking such an agreement, is threatening UK national security.

If this is the case and irrespective of party politics, Mrs May is wholly unsuitable as prime minister.

How on earth could we ever have arrived here?

 

Frickin Saweet Flag South Cronx 13 Jun 17 3.38pm

Originally posted by europalace

You're clearly showing your zero knowledge of all EU related topics. How many EU countries excluding the UK have you actually lived in for any length of time? Me?, 5 countries, minimum stay 2 years and that gives me experience of how other EU countries view the EU and the UK and their local cultures. Believe it or not, the UK rarely comes up in any conversation on the continent among ordinary citizens, they get on with their lives and enjoy visiting one another, trading with one another and generally enjoying life. Whenever I visit the UK, people are generally moaning about the cost of everything, property prices, pensions, leaving the EU etc. Depressing.

What's Malta like? Me and my Mrs are looking at it as a potential bolthole

 

Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 13 Jun 17 3.45pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

If an agreement between Mrs May and The DUP threatens the Northern Ireland peace process, then Mrs May, who is seeking such an agreement, is threatening UK national security.

If this is the case and irrespective of party politics, Mrs May is wholly unsuitable as prime minister.

How on earth could we ever have arrived here?

Because too many ignorant muppets voted Labour?

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

Kermit8 Flag Hevon 13 Jun 17 3.57pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Because too many ignorant muppets voted Labour?


And for where it all started: Brexit.

 


Big chest and massive boobs

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DanH Flag SW2 13 Jun 17 3.57pm

Originally posted by Cucking Funt

Because too many ignorant muppets voted Labour?

*Waves*

Hiya!

 

Cucking Funt Flag Clapham on the Back 13 Jun 17 4.00pm

Originally posted by DanH

*Waves*

Hiya!

Down, girl.

 


Wife beating may be socially acceptable in Sheffield, but it is a different matter in Cheltenham

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 13 Jun 17 4.08pm

Originally posted by steeleye20

Malta has a flourishing business community including IT and has benefited from its EU membership.

You may have been there 25 years ago but its quite different now not that there is anything wrong in tourism or fishing anyway.


I believe there is also a burgeoning online gaming industry in Malta due to its low (effective) tax rates and favourable regulation.

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 13 Jun 17 4.10pm

Originally posted by europalace


So, more than 40 years ago. So how can a country have a GDP growth of more than double that of the Eurozone and nearly 3 times that of the UK based on an economy of fishing and tourism? You are clearly totally uneducated on this subject and probably on your own country, the UK also.

Your experience of Malta 40 years ago is totally irrelevant compared to that of today. You are 100% wrong about the country I live in and a typical close minded Brit who hasn't got a clue about Europe let alone the EU. You really are an embarrassment to your country and a probable reason why so many young British voters voted the opposite way to you.


Edited by europalace (13 Jun 2017 2.09pm)

Don't worry. This guy has been at it the entire campaign. Has no relevant arguments so resorts to name calling and flinging insults around.

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Jun 17 4.21pm

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

I believe there is also a burgeoning online gaming industry in Malta due to its low (effective) tax rates and favourable regulation.

They don't use chips they use maltesers

 

elgrande Flag bedford 13 Jun 17 4.28pm

Originally posted by europalace


So, more than 40 years ago. So how can a country have a GDP growth of more than double that of the Eurozone and nearly 3 times that of the UK based on an economy of fishing and tourism? You are clearly totally uneducated on this subject and probably on your own country, the UK also.

Your experience of Malta 40 years ago is totally irrelevant compared to that of today. You are 100% wrong about the country I live in and a typical close minded Brit who hasn't got a clue about Europe let alone the EU. You really are an embarrassment to your country and a probable reason why so many young British voters voted the opposite way to you.


Edited by europalace (13 Jun 2017 2.09pm)

And one of the least net contributers to the eu,and surprise surprise receives one of the biggest hand outs in comparison...I can see why you like the eu so much.
And you are all such lovely people,that's why the police had such trouble with the Maltese gangs in soho in the 60s and 70s.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

europalace Flag Europe 13 Jun 17 5.06pm

Originally posted by elgrande

And one of the least net contributers to the eu,and surprise surprise receives one of the biggest hand outs in comparison...I can see why you like the eu so much.
And you are all such lovely people,that's why the police had such trouble with the Maltese gangs in soho in the 60s and 70s.

er, no. It's still a net receiver and everything is relative. Malta has received €1 billion since 2005 and will become a net contributor around 2019/2020 when it's GDP has reached the threshold to do so. It is not the larget net receiver of funds on a relative basis, that is Lithuania, Malta is somwhere in the middle:

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That's how the EU model works, fund a country with a lower GDP until its economy grows and meets the EU threshold. It then becomes a country that can be traded with and in Malta's case has a trade surplus for the last 5 years:

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It also has one of the lowest unemployement rates within the EU.

So you are quoting what was happening in Soho in the 1960s'/1970s, nearly 50 years ago? What has that got to do with today? In the 1970s the UK was in meltdown with national strikes and power cuts, relevant for today?

With regards to the mention of online gaming or iGaming/eGaming, yes Malta has the biggest industry within the EU because it has attractive corporation tax levels combines with an educated work force and a nice climate. It's a small place, so has the disadvantages of that but from a personal perspective, we'll stay here a few more years.

With regards to 'liking' the EU, I made an effort to experience living in several other EU countries, most of which are in the Eurozone. Quality of life in all of the 5 countries I have lived in is higher than in the UK. Malta is one difficult to compare because it's a tiny island, so you simply don't have access to some things here but the other 4 countries were mainland Europe with similar comparable factors to the UK regarding infrastructure, access to countryside, career opportunities, taxation, health, education etc.


Edited by europalace (13 Jun 2017 5.18pm)

 

susmik Flag PLYMOUTH -But Made in Old Coulsdon... 13 Jun 17 7.13pm

Originally posted by europalace


So, more than 40 years ago. So how can a country have a GDP growth of more than double that of the Eurozone and nearly 3 times that of the UK based on an economy of fishing and tourism? You are clearly totally uneducated on this subject and probably on your own country, the UK also.

Your experience of Malta 40 years ago is totally irrelevant compared to that of today. You are 100% wrong about the country I live in and a typical close minded Brit who hasn't got a clue about Europe let alone the EU. You really are an embarrassment to your country and a probable reason why so many young British voters voted the opposite way to you.


Edited by europalace (13 Jun 2017 2.09pm)

I notice a few others have agreed with me since your post and I say again you need to grow up and see the wood for the trees and as being an embarrassment to m y country at least I live in it and not go bolting to any country that will have me like you have.
The reason so many young people voted the opposite to me was because they fell hook line and sinker for Corbyns promises of FREE Education Cheap housing and all the other things. The young are quite gullible when something is offered for free. Socialism just does not work and it never will. God help us if Corbyn was the Prime Minister.

 


Supported Palace for over 69 years since the age of 7 and have seen all the ups and downs and will probably see many more ups and downs before I go up to the big football club in the sky.

europalace Flag Europe 13 Jun 17 8.15pm

Originally posted by susmik

I notice a few others have agreed with me since your post and I say again you need to grow up and see the wood for the trees and as being an embarrassment to m y country at least I live in it and not go bolting to any country that will have me like you have.
The reason so many young people voted the opposite to me was because they fell hook line and sinker for Corbyns promises of FREE Education Cheap housing and all the other things. The young are quite gullible when something is offered for free. Socialism just does not work and it never will. God help us if Corbyn was the Prime Minister.


So, who has 'agreed' and out of those that have 'agreed', how many have lived in Malta during the last 15 years when most of the economy has boomed due to EU membership? I've posted links to factual economic information about the country, everyone else seem to be using their biased vivid imaginations.

 

rmdavis02 Flag 14 Jun 17 2.06pm

And don't forget about the euro as well.

 

CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 14 Jun 17 2.31pm

Originally posted by susmik

I notice a few others have agreed with me since your post and I say again you need to grow up and see the wood for the trees and as being an embarrassment to m y country at least I live in it and not go bolting to any country that will have me like you have.
The reason so many young people voted the opposite to me was because they fell hook line and sinker for Corbyns promises of FREE Education Cheap housing and all the other things. The young are quite gullible when something is offered for free. Socialism just does not work and it never will. God help us if Corbyn was the Prime Minister.

It's attitudes like this that will only make people MORE likely to vote for Corbyn and progressive social policies. The economic fundamentals behind such polices are well founded and the policies on offer from Labour are not radical or particularly unusual when compared with OEDC. Your attitude is outdated and characteristic of the negativity, hubris and myopia of the right wing in Britain prior to this election. The policies of consecutive governments have made life more difficult and uncertain for young people and they have a right to vote for a party that offers a more credible and fairer alternative.

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This is an interesting look at the breakdown of the votes.

Given the data on wages released today are further evidence of the failure of the Tory government since 2010 and the problems they have created. These are quite fundamental problems to our economy - despite low unemployment real wages are falling materially. Given the economy is propped up by consumer spending this highlights the structural deficiencies in our economy and throws into greater relief the problems caused by Tory policy on wages and inequality, but also on a lack of investment both from the public sector and from business.

If the Tories don't properly abandon their ideological commitment to austerity they will lose big time when the next election comes around. They are quite fortunate that the election was last week rather than tomorrow.

Edited by CambridgeEagle (14 Jun 2017 2.38pm)

 

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