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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Online Flag Truro Cornwall 16 Apr 20 9.15pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Laugh out loud moment. Yes they can as you're the master of it & do it continuously ........

I await you trying to point out when I next do that.

I won't though be holding my breath in anticipation.

In the meantime, enjoy your laugh. Being where you are cannot be very funny at the moment so any light relief, however undeserved, is my gift.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Apr 20 9.47pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

My own experience is primarily regarding nurses from the Philippines but I believe it is a similar situation in the other countries from whom we recruit nurses.

It is a requirement that a nurse spends at least 2 years working locally after qualification before being allowed an exit visa to work overseas, which most want to do.

Nursing is a much prized career in these countries and as the cost of the 5 year course has to be borne by the family it's a very heavy commitment. Which is why most are expected to remit most of their earnings back home. You see a lot of Filipino nurses in our hospitals but very rarely in social settings.

A far greater of young people there though choose nursing as their career than do here. There are also many more colleges. It is taught on an industrial scale because of the demand from countries like ourselves.

I know less about the situation with doctors, but I suspect it is similar.

So yes it bothers me, but it's not a straightforward situation.

Maybe the Filipino government should make it more noticing to stay at home. I always found it quite sad that Filipino seaman spend 9-10 months on ships to support families at home, forgoing seeing children grow up. They, of course, are not alone as migrant workers from sub-continent do similar.
However having trained healthcare workers you would think their own government would want to keep them.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Apr 20 9.48pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Maybe the Filipino government should make it more noticing to stay at home. I always found it quite sad that Filipino seaman spend 9-10 months on ships to support families at home, forgoing seeing children grow up. They, of course, are not alone as migrant workers from sub-continent do similar.
However having trained healthcare workers you would think their own government would want to keep them.

Sorry meant more enticing

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Apr 20 10.03pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

The geographic origin of the 'Spanish flu' remains uncertain.

Not keen on Professor Worobey’s phylogenetic analyses then Stirling?

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Apr 20 10.06pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

Sorry meant more enticing

Nope

It’s one of their most successful exports and brings squillions into the Philippine economy

If the RCN and Government would allow it, we could make a huge impact on our lack of mental health nurses by hiring from one big teaching hospital in Manila

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Apr 20 10.10pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Jimenez

Surely the answer then is that if you sign a contract to the effect that If you have a 3,4,5 Year training course paid for you. Then you are legally bound to stay with the NHS for a pre determined time or you pay back your College/training money?

Sure. Like in the Philippines. Now explain that to the Government as this was a crisis made by Government policy not the NHS.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Apr 20 10.12pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Nope

It’s one of their most successful exports and brings squillions into the Philippine economy

If the RCN and Government would allow it, we could make a huge impact on our lack of mental health nurses by hiring from one big teaching hospital in Manila

So you don’t think the Philippines would benefit from having their trained nurses staying and looking after their own? Or is it all about money?

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Apr 20 10.16pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

So you don’t think the Philippines would benefit from having their trained nurses staying and looking after their own? Or is it all about money?

FFS. Let’s try again. They qualify way more nurses than they need expecting many to work overseas once they’ve worked for at least two years locally. And they are very high quality. The RMNs effectively study for a Masters.

Edited by Mapletree (16 Apr 2020 10.17pm)

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Apr 20 10.17pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Nope

It’s one of their most successful exports and brings squillions into the Philippine economy

If the RCN and Government would allow it, we could make a huge impact on our lack of mental health nurses by hiring from one big teaching hospital in Manila

I might be wrong but have you not previously mentioned that you are involved in a business recruiting overseas workers? So no self interest in your views then?

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 16 Apr 20 10.17pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

I repeat the origin of the Spanish flu is uncertain.

Anyone suggesting certainty on its origin speaks with no scientific consensus and is spreading disinformation.

Here's an article from the National Geographic that suggests the origins for this flu as maybe coming from China, which then muated. However, they also state that it's unlikely that we will ever know.

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That is the correct information, we don't know for sure where the Spanish flu originated from.

Absolutely nothing wrong with speculation, but suggesting certainty isn't correct.

Edited by Stirlingsays (16 Apr 2020 10.19pm)

 


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 16 Apr 20 10.19pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

I might be wrong but have you not previously mentioned that you are involved in a business recruiting overseas workers? So no self interest in your views then?

I do not recruit from overseas. In the past I had to as there are absolutely no RMNs or RNLDs available in the UK market

Self interest? Tell you what, you explain to me how to nurse the mentally ill.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 16 Apr 20 10.20pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

FFS. Let’s try again. They qualify way more nurses than they need expecting many to work overseas once they’ve worked for at least two years locally. And they are very high quality. The RMNs effectively study for a Masters.

Edited by Mapletree (16 Apr 2020 10.17pm)

I have never doubted the quality have I! Why reply with Ffs? I was putting my opinion that is all

 

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