I assume that you exclude yourself from your insult

Any manager is only six poor performances or results from the sack and Roy is no different. There was also good reason to question him after the end of last season.

His critics were screaming for a change from 433 with three "defensive" midfield players. That he should put Mitchell and Riedewald in the team and that Luka should be dropped.

He's done all of those things, got 10 points from a difficult looking opening six games and found a way to get a tune out of a player who wants out.

The lack of response against Chelsea and last week against Brighton were unacceptable but not enough to justify some of the utter bollocks that has been thrown out.

Well in response to this I've been a Palace fan of over 50 years.
Most of my favourite memories have been outside the top division - the Allison/Venables years that ultimately failed but contained some brilliant football and lots of fun , the second division team put together by Coppell on a shoestring with Bright, Wright, Gray and Thomas, the Championship team with an exciting front 3 of Zaha, Murray and Bolassie and the grit of Delaney and Jedi.
Will I be similarly nostalgic about the Roy years?
I don't believe so.
If after he's gone we get thrashed 5-0 I may wish we were organised better and had a meaner defence on the day.
But I won't feel any great warmth for his methods and I long to get the excitement and enjoyment of watching Palace back.
Where you don't know more or less the exact pattern of every game with each first half being goalless or perhaps just one goal.
And yes, I am being careful whst I wish for.

Well in response to this I've been a Palace fan of over 50 years.
Most of my favourite memories have been outside the top division - the Allison/Venables years that ultimately failed but contained some brilliant football and lots of fun , the second division team put together by Coppell on a shoestring with Bright, Wright, Gray and Thomas, the Championship team with an exciting front 3 of Zaha, Murray and Bolassie and the grit of Delaney and Jedi.
Will I be similarly nostalgic about the Roy years?
I don't believe so.
If after he's gone we get thrashed 5-0 I may wish we were organised better and had a meaner defence on the day.
But I won't feel any great warmth for his methods and I long to get the excitement and enjoyment of watching Palace back.
Where you don't know more or less the exact pattern of every game with each first half being goalless or perhaps just one goal.
And yes, I am being careful whst I wish for.

Maybe when Roy leaves, he might be remembered as a great manager for us.

I don’t remember some of those teams, but what I will say is that - the average attendance over the last 7 years have been around 24k. You have to go back to when we was in the first division back in 72 when gates were consistently that high over 3-4 year period.

What does this tell you. This says to me the majority of fans want to see top flight football. More people want to see Crystal Palace when they are in the First Division/Premier league.

For those great teams you mention, they never consistently got gates above 20k. Why, if they were such good footballing teams.

We have sold more season tickets this season for football we can’t even see this season 12k, vs the belosie, murray and zaha season.

Being loyal to Palace does not equate to being loyal to Roy.

I've never been in a hurry to suggest he goes but the negative style he insists on, particularly in the previous two games brought me much closer to that view.

Nope, this just tells me that PL football is more about corporate entertainment than it is true fans. Take a close look at all the foreigners sat around you next time you go if you want proof of that.