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EddieMac 15 Feb 21 11.25am
Originally posted by Spiderman I will throw another name in the hat of possible replacements, Roger Schmidt of PSV. A manager in the mould of Hussenhuttl. High pressing, fast attacking. Job at PSV may be in doubt. This is the sort of person we should be looking at but, of course, he needs the right type of players. Gallagher anyone? Edited by Spiderman (15 Feb 2021 10.32am) Is this the same Hassenhuttl who over the last few years has faired no better than our beloved Roy?
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15 Feb 21 11.25am

Originally posted by Spiderman

I will throw another name in the hat of possible replacements, Roger Schmidt of PSV. A manager in the mould of Hussenhuttl. High pressing, fast attacking. Job at PSV may be in doubt. This is the sort of person we should be looking at but, of course, he needs the right type of players. Gallagher anyone?

Edited by Spiderman (15 Feb 2021 10.32am)

Is this the same Hassenhuttl who over the last few years has faired no better than our beloved Roy?

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Feb 21 11.29am
Originally posted by Spiderman TBF Guiata was totally blocked off, legally apparently for the header. If Dann does not have the mobility RH shouldn’t have picked him. I agree about the performances although Brighton at home is right up there. I am not sure if we will stay up. If we do next season could be very long. My view is that Guaita had to be far more assertive in that situation.All-in-all it was an awful goal to concede. Apropos Dann, I suspect that he wouldn't have played if Tomkins was fit.Both Dann and Cahill have been found wanting this season, both in the 'Twilight' of their careers.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Feb 21 11.29am

Originally posted by Spiderman

TBF Guiata was totally blocked off, legally apparently for the header. If Dann does not have the mobility RH shouldn’t have picked him. I agree about the performances although Brighton at home is right up there.
I am not sure if we will stay up. If we do next season could be very long.

My view is that Guaita had to be far more assertive in that situation.All-in-all it was an awful goal to concede.

Apropos Dann, I suspect that he wouldn't have played if Tomkins was fit.Both Dann and Cahill have been found wanting this season, both in the 'Twilight' of their careers.

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EddieMac 15 Feb 21 11.31am
Originally posted by Spiderman TBF Guiata was totally blocked off, legally apparently for the header. If Dann does not have the mobility RH shouldn’t have picked him. I agree about the performances although Brighton at home is right up there. I am not sure if we will stay up. If we do next season could be very long. I think the blinkers need to come off for most regarding Guita. I always rated him but the more I watch him I think he needs to be dropped. I said yesterday that he is a big reason we get battered under crosses, he stays rooted to his line and every team knows this, his shot stopping is his only plus.
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15 Feb 21 11.31am

Originally posted by Spiderman

TBF Guiata was totally blocked off, legally apparently for the header. If Dann does not have the mobility RH shouldn’t have picked him. I agree about the performances although Brighton at home is right up there.
I am not sure if we will stay up. If we do next season could be very long.

I think the blinkers need to come off for most regarding Guita. I always rated him but the more I watch him I think he needs to be dropped. I said yesterday that he is a big reason we get battered under crosses, he stays rooted to his line and every team knows this, his shot stopping is his only plus.

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Midlands Eagle 15 Feb 21 11.33am
Originally posted by EddieMac Is this the same Hassenhuttl who over the last few years has faired no better than our beloved Roy? Are we in the quarter finals of the FA Cup then?
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15 Feb 21 11.33am

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Originally posted by EddieMac

Is this the same Hassenhuttl who over the last few years has faired no better than our beloved Roy?

Are we in the quarter finals of the FA Cup then?

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PZ Eagle Penzance 15 Feb 21 11.55am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Are we in the quarter finals of the FA Cup then? No but neither have we just lost five league games in a row like Southampton. Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.
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Penzance 15 Feb 21 11.55am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Are we in the quarter finals of the FA Cup then?

No but neither have we just lost five league games in a row like Southampton.

Conjunctivitis.com - A site for sore eyes.

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Feb 21 11.57am
Originally posted by PZ Eagle No but neither have we just lost five league games in a row like Southampton. Southampton have lost 6 games in succession in the PL, the first time in their history. They are also the team who have dropped most points from a winning position in the PL this season - a total of 16 pts. Edited by Willo (15 Feb 2021 12.00pm)
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South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Feb 21 11.57am

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

No but neither have we just lost five league games in a row like Southampton.

Southampton have lost 6 games in succession in the PL, the first time in their history.
They are also the team who have dropped most points from a winning position in the PL this season - a total of 16 pts.

Edited by Willo (15 Feb 2021 12.00pm)

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EddieMac 15 Feb 21 11.58am
Originally posted by Midlands Eagle Are we in the quarter finals of the FA Cup then? On the balance of 3 seasons Hassenhuttl is not much better than Roy.
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15 Feb 21 11.58am

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Are we in the quarter finals of the FA Cup then?

On the balance of 3 seasons Hassenhuttl is not much better than Roy.

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PatrickA London 15 Feb 21 12.02pm
For those with short memories Roy lost 7 in a row last season. Of course it’s also possible Southampton could lose the next two as well to equal Roy’s feat. Not sure it’s a competition they will be keen to win.
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PatrickA

London 15 Feb 21 12.02pm

For those with short memories Roy lost 7 in a row last season.
Of course it’s also possible Southampton could lose the next two as well to equal Roy’s feat.
Not sure it’s a competition they will be keen to win.

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ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Feb 21 12.04pm
Originally posted by PatrickA For those with short memories Roy lost 7 in a row last season. Of course it’s also possible Southampton could lose the next two as well to equal Roy’s feat. Not sure it’s a competition they will be keen to win. I doubt they will. We will though. Red and Blue Army!
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Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Feb 21 12.04pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

I doubt they will. We will though.

Red and Blue Army!

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Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Feb 21 12.06pm
Originally posted by PatrickA For those with short memories Roy lost 7 in a row last season. Of course it’s also possible Southampton could lose the next two as well to equal Roy’s feat. Not sure it’s a competition they will be keen to win. Indeed we lost 7 PL games in succession after Lockdown but perhaps the fact that we had attained sufficient points could have been a factor and/or the fixture congestion affecting players in the 'Twilight' of their careers.
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South coast - west of Brighton. 15 Feb 21 12.06pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

For those with short memories Roy lost 7 in a row last season.
Of course it’s also possible Southampton could lose the next two as well to equal Roy’s feat.
Not sure it’s a competition they will be keen to win.

Indeed we lost 7 PL games in succession after Lockdown but perhaps the fact that we had attained sufficient points could have been a factor and/or the fixture congestion affecting players in the 'Twilight' of their careers.

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Booted Eagle Bristol 15 Feb 21 12.13pm
Originally posted by PatrickA Hodgson has done the job I would expect him to do with the resources available; in the same way as Pardew and Allardyce before him. Pulis was the true miracle worker when you consider the available resources for him in our first year after promotion. He will never be seen in the same light as Hodgson because of the way he departed and also because he wasn’t born in Croydon. But it’s difficult to draw any other conclusion from an objective analysis of the squad he worked with compared with the squads his successors worked with. Oh.. and he worked on defensive and offensive set pieces. If management is defined as provision of leadership and making best use of available resources can people seriously say Hodgson has excelled in these areas over the past year? We look rudderless and it’s time for a change at the end of the season. I was thinking the same the other day. After Ollie's sweet shop raid in the transfer market with the likes of Kebe and Marange, the players that got us promoted without Wilf scrapped for their lives under him. Think there was a realisation that it was going to be a hard slog just to stay up that they really put in a shift. Doesn't seem to be anything like this around the club at the moment. Hopefully results like at Goodison last night might induce a few players to up their games. “ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ” —United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld
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Bristol 15 Feb 21 12.13pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

Hodgson has done the job I would expect him to do with the resources available; in the same way as Pardew and Allardyce before him.
Pulis was the true miracle worker when you consider the available resources for him in our first year after promotion.
He will never be seen in the same light as Hodgson because of the way he departed and also because he wasn’t born in Croydon.
But it’s difficult to draw any other conclusion from an objective analysis of the squad he worked with compared with the squads his successors worked with.
Oh.. and he worked on defensive and offensive set pieces.
If management is defined as provision of leadership and making best use of available resources can people seriously say Hodgson has excelled in these areas over the past year?
We look rudderless and it’s time for a change at the end of the season.

I was thinking the same the other day. After Ollie's sweet shop raid in the transfer market with the likes of Kebe and Marange, the players that got us promoted without Wilf scrapped for their lives under him. Think there was a realisation that it was going to be a hard slog just to stay up that they really put in a shift. Doesn't seem to be anything like this around the club at the moment. Hopefully results like at Goodison last night might induce a few players to up their games.

“ [T]here are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.There are known unknowns; that is to say there are things that, we now know we don't know.But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know. ”
—United States Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld

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PatrickA London 15 Feb 21 12.20pm
Always excuses for Hodgson. Can there not be a simple acknowledgement that his management has been found wanting this season? I respected the job he did in his first season as I respected Luka’s performances as captain also back then. I don’t have respect for either of their performances this season. Football evolves and neither have been good enough in the past year. I hope next season we have both a new manager and captain. This is not a knee jerk reaction to a couple of defeats. A result against Brighton won’t mask the deficiencies and will do little other than papering over the cracks.
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London 15 Feb 21 12.20pm

Always excuses for Hodgson.
Can there not be a simple acknowledgement that his management has been found wanting this season?
I respected the job he did in his first season as I respected Luka’s performances as captain also back then.
I don’t have respect for either of their performances this season.
Football evolves and neither have been good enough in the past year.
I hope next season we have both a new manager and captain.
This is not a knee jerk reaction to a couple of defeats.
A result against Brighton won’t mask the deficiencies and will do little other than papering over the cracks.

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