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HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 20 Jun 21 10.06am

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Yes, George Galloway

 


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Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 10 Jul 21 2.18pm

who knows if the Sun report is true.?

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Doesn't matter if it's true or not, the public have seen it now.

Still surprised people remember who Starmer is,..or his policies,...or that he leads a party called Labour.

 


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Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Jul 21 2.37pm

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

who knows if the Sun report is true.?

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Doesn't matter if it's true or not, the public have seen it now.

Still surprised people remember who Starmer is,..or his policies,...or that he leads a party called Labour.

Nothing to see hear plenty of politicians and celebs blag freebie tickets for major sporting events. I don't like it but there will be probably be more Tories doing it than Labour simply because they are the government. The biggest blaggers of all are UEFA and their corporate chums. I expect there will be a few EU mandarins in there as well.

A friend went into the original ballot and got tickets either for the final or the semi final. This was back in 2019 when they relaunched the competition he was told sorry due to social distancing you've lost your tickets which were near the Royal box.

He knows roughly where he would have sat and every England game it's been packed with celebs and probably corporate blaggers. So he got bumped for the great and the good.

 


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croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 10 Jul 21 3.52pm

Originally posted by Badger11

Nothing to see hear plenty of politicians and celebs blag freebie tickets for major sporting events. I don't like it but there will be probably be more Tories doing it than Labour simply because they are the government. The biggest blaggers of all are UEFA and their corporate chums. I expect there will be a few EU mandarins in there as well.

A friend went into the original ballot and got tickets either for the final or the semi final. This was back in 2019 when they relaunched the competition he was told sorry due to social distancing you've lost your tickets which were near the Royal box.

He knows roughly where he would have sat and every England game it's been packed with celebs and probably corporate blaggers. So he got bumped for the great and the good.


Yes, sport is just another con, as with everything else in life, those celebs taking the place of a real fan who wanted to see the game and not just a photo opportunity for instagram.

 

sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 10 Jul 21 10.42pm

Originally posted by croydon proud


Yes, sport is just another con, as with everything else in life, those celebs taking the place of a real fan who wanted to see the game and not just a photo opportunity for instagram.

Politics and sport have never been comfortable bed fellows, yet always seem to be hand in hand.

 

Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 11 Jul 21 6.26am

Originally posted by Badger11

Nothing to see hear plenty of politicians and celebs blag freebie tickets for major sporting events. I don't like it but there will be probably be more Tories doing it than Labour simply because they are the government. The biggest blaggers of all are UEFA and their corporate chums. I expect there will be a few EU mandarins in there as well.

A friend went into the original ballot and got tickets either for the final or the semi final. This was back in 2019 when they relaunched the competition he was told sorry due to social distancing you've lost your tickets which were near the Royal box.

He knows roughly where he would have sat and every England game it's been packed with celebs and probably corporate blaggers. So he got bumped for the great and the good.

I wasn't being specific enough about the point I was really getting at.
Starmer in the past week was mumbling something about Covid restrictions being lifted too early and that things like mass-gatherings (football matches, tennis) should not be allowed
It'll be mildly interesting to see if the TV cameras pick him up in the stands of packed celebrities

 


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ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 11 Jul 21 11.23am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

I wasn't being specific enough about the point I was really getting at.
Starmer in the past week was mumbling something about Covid restrictions being lifted too early and that things like mass-gatherings (football matches, tennis) should not be allowed
It'll be mildly interesting to see if the TV cameras pick him up in the stands of packed celebrities

Dead man walking. Literally nobody cares what he does. He should have an affair or something to raise his profile.

 


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Jacey Flag 11 Jul 21 11.56am

After recent by election,claimed Liebour were back,having narrowly scraped home by a few hundred votes.A huge liebour majority wiped out,given that vote took place days after wa#ker Hancock's indiscretions.
Sir Quiere is a dead man walking and he is the only one who cannot see the hopelessness of his laughable leadership.

 

sickboy Flag Deal or Croydon 11 Jul 21 12.39pm

Originally posted by Jacey

After recent by election,claimed Liebour were back,having narrowly scraped home by a few hundred votes.A huge liebour majority wiped out,given that vote took place days after wa#ker Hancock's indiscretions.
Sir Quiere is a dead man walking and he is the only one who cannot see the hopelessness of his laughable leadership.

George Galloway is challenging the result in court I believe.
They might still lose it.

 

BlueJay Flag UK 11 Jul 21 12.42pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Dead man walking. Literally nobody cares what he does. He should have an affair or something to raise his profile.

While Corbyn never held back and was essentially always in activist mode (which was itself a problem) I feel like Starmer goes too far in the other direction for the most part, and too circumspect and a pretty much a political non entity. He may well be a decent guy, but that doesn't really cut it in modern politics. That said I'm not entirely sure who they could replace him. Andy Burnham perhaps at least does appear to have wider appeal.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 11 Jul 21 2.20pm

Originally posted by BlueJay

While Corbyn never held back and was essentially always in activist mode (which was itself a problem) I feel like Starmer goes too far in the other direction for the most part, and too circumspect and a pretty much a political non entity. He may well be a decent guy, but that doesn't really cut it in modern politics. That said I'm not entirely sure who they could replace him. Andy Burnham perhaps at least does appear to have wider appeal.


I like Jonathon Ashworth, might have a small wager on him, always comes across as a decent chap.

 

Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards georgenorman Flag 11 Jul 21 2.42pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

I like Jonathon Ashworth, might have a small wager on him, always comes across as a decent chap.

Ernie Bevin would do a better job even though he has been dead for 70 years.

 

Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 11 Jul 21 2.54pm

I don't doubt that Starmer is a cerebral chap but my word he as 'Wooden' as one of Bjorn Borg's old tennis rackets.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 11 Jul 21 3.35pm

Originally posted by georgenorman

Ernie Bevin would do a better job even though he has been dead for 70 years.

If boris can do it, ANYONE can!

 

Jacey Flag 11 Jul 21 4.48pm

Originally posted by croydon proud

If boris can do it, ANYONE can!


Yes, anyone,except,Starmer!!

 

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 11 Jul 21 5.59pm

Sir Keir is just playing a waiting game.

Waiting for anything that resembles a policy.

 

croydon proud Flag Any european country i fancy! 11 Jul 21 6.38pm

Originally posted by Jacey

After recent by election,claimed Liebour were back,having narrowly scraped home by a few hundred votes.A huge liebour majority wiped out,given that vote took place days after wa#ker Hancock's indiscretions.
Sir Quiere is a dead man walking and he is the only one who cannot see the hopelessness of his laughable leadership.

Liebour, ha ha, with the CONservative pm having been sacked twice for telling porkies, nice one!

 

Matov Flag 11 Jul 21 6.59pm

Starmer will be replaced by Rayner. She has the backing of the big Trade Unions, who hold the purse strings, and can appeal to the most Labour MP's.

Burnham would be a better choice but he is not an MP and I suspect would not want to give up his current job unless an ULTRA safe Labour seat up north becomes available. But even then, I suspect he will bide his time until after the next general election which is, at least on paper, unwinnable for Labour as things stand at the moment.

 


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BlueJay Flag UK 11 Jul 21 7.26pm

Originally posted by Matov

Starmer will be replaced by Rayner. She has the backing of the big Trade Unions, who hold the purse strings, and can appeal to the most Labour MP's.

Burnham would be a better choice but he is not an MP and I suspect would not want to give up his current job unless an ULTRA safe Labour seat up north becomes available. But even then, I suspect he will bide his time until after the next general election which is, at least on paper, unwinnable for Labour as things stand at the moment.

I think a path might open up for Burnham (one way or another) but as you say, is it the right time anyway?

Rayner certainly has support in the right places (not as smutty as I intended that to sound!), but I'm not sure she'd ever stand much change of winning an election. Not as though that ever stopped them before!

 

HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 12 Jul 21 7.15am

I pray for Rayner, Butler or any of the Corbynista typs to lead Labour in to the next election. Russell-Moye also my approval. Any of the Socialist Campaign Group would do.

 


Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

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