It's impossible to know if they have legitimate asylum claims until they have been processed. The term illegal immigrant has no value in discussing these people. Once they have made a claim as most do they are asylum seekers. It is then the responsibility of the authorities to assess the claim.

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Take note, those who are supportive of the Channel arrivals. Remember, as I have said many times, they arrive with no documentation so impossible to know who they are. But hey, let’s not detain them, let’s allow them to walk the streets

Looks like there still is cooperation and information sharing between us and EU countries

Edited by Spiderman (18 Sep 2021 8.02am)

As many of 'your genes' survive no matter who you procreate with. The same for the person you procreate with. I'm not sure beyond fantasy you can make any claim that your genes 'want' anything beyond that.

It’s not a case of concern or denial. More a case of what are you really worried about? It has been happening like that for tens of thousands of years and there is no way that it is going to stop now. To hold against it makes you a Cnut, (that’s not a typo). The sea will come in and then it will go out again and onwards like that forever. We are all just passing through and all things come to an end eventually.

A large part of what makes us human is our capacity for empathy and an understanding that the survival of the genes of others is also in the interest of us all. This is why humans have succeeded, as we are capable of cooperation and mutual support. I believe that we are just beginning to see that the health of everyone is our priority. Strangely the global environmental crisis that is may well be the thing that brings us together. (It’s still going to take a decade

It is not hypocritical to wish everyone has a happy healthy life and that we strive for equality in society, especially standing up for the poor and disadvantage whatever their origins. This is just a desire to retain and nurture the British ideas that have formed us.

I agree that the survival of our own genes does tend to be a basic human instinct. Meaning that we pay particular attention to our own family above others. I think, however, that there will be other factors at play in the future.

The replacement theory that you write about requires reproduction to continue at the same rate. The evidence around the world shows us that this is not happening. For multiple reasons, it looks like we have probably passed peak population. As people become richer they always have fewer children. This happens very quickly, usually within one generation.

The big unknown is biological fertility. This could stop humanity in its tracks. Fertility is falling dramatically around the world and not just in rich countries. The role of pollution would appear to be a major factor in this but social pressures are also important.

On top of this birth rates are falling all over the world due to social factors. Many countries have long passed the point of no return as every woman of childbearing age would now be required to have 5 children just to stop the population from falling. Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, Greece, Poland, Italy, Hungary, and many others are all below 1.5 births per woman of childbearing age. The definition of sub-replacement fertility is any rate below approximately 2.1 children born per woman of childbearing age. The rate in Britain today is estimated to be about 1.9 and in France 2.0.

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They aren't saying this stuff on here on account that legions of people in their lives are open eared to it. It's a tricky one, as on one hand I'm pleased there is a semi mainstream outlet, as we see first hand the ill advised avenues that are otherwise gravitated to. On the other though, I see it as unfortunate for those reading these threads.

There is a reason that the only 'black' bloke here that people liked hilariously wasn't even black anyway and the only actual black individual received hateful anonymous phonecalls and six on one pile-ins. It's more a bunker than a place to share views. That there was serious discussion that kuge might be a 'paid troll' or a member of a 'sleeper cell' tells you just how far gone some are.

The common factor with them really is a complete lack of basic and genuine socialisation. It's not even so much about a lack of affinity for other tribes, it's that they are so far removed even from their own tribe that they can espouse views that are detached from understood norms and understandings of how people interact and get along. We can all put the world to rights in solitary confinement, and in terms of mentally that's what you see here.

There is some utter utter rubbish being written here. I'd love to chime in and refute a lot of it and suggest personality and socialisation issues in the writers as well, as that appears to be the order of the day.

However, it isn't on the topic thread that the OP specifically asked to be respected so I'm basically staying out.

So you can continue your own little personal 'pile on'.

A thread could be created to continue this, which would mean the the OPs request was actually respected.

Edited by Stirlingsays (18 Sep 2021 12.55pm)

'Who are you and how did you get in here? I'm a locksmith. And, I'm a locksmith.' (Leslie Nielsen)

Whether the person saying it to me is black, white, green or yellow, I am averse to any idea that it's better to procreate with this person or that racially. I see it as an attack on the dignity of the children that result from what may well be a loving relationship, and indeed how they are then likely to be treated by others. People can make their own decisions on who they partner with, and immigration policy and the like. That's about the extent of a persons control in this regard though. Beyond that, I see these outlooks inferring how people should behave and procreate as doing more harm than good - and as I say they are demeaning children who are genetically no better or worse, or of less or more belonging than anyone in your life.

That has nothing to do with it. We are talking about demographics, not the feelings of children or who you want to have sex with.

Difference being with me it would be wholly inaccurate, and with you, based on your behaviour it clearly is not. You don't give plenty of time and space to the likes of neo nazi Mark Collett if you're 'hanging with the homies' the next day. The laughable scope and allowances you give your own views compared to your hyper negative fixation on mundane views has been oft highlighted and rightly so. No-one open to others in a half way normal and balanced way goes that route. Since you have an eternal issue with minorities, you get to realise than in indulging at the fringes you are clearly, provably much more in the minority than any colour or creed you waste your time obsessing over. As such, expect to receive what you dish out.

You just like to blot out the aspects of inconvenience to yourself. As I say, beyond personal choices of who you procreate with or how you vote in terms of immigration policy, none of this is in any way within your control. As such part of a typical persons thinking factors in to how their views will be received. Like it or not, your comments essentially rank the progeny of people based on their race. That is not something that 'works' in real world interactions, which is why this is your outlet for it.