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Park Road Flag 08 Jun 19 6.54pm

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Strangely I don't pay much attention to incoherent ramblings so cannot recall any precise details other than the wrong ends of several sticks being gleefully grasped in an effort to discredit.

However I somehow doubt whether you could pull up a daisy so you most certainly have never pulled up me!

I cannot think of one characteristic that I share with Trump. I will mention that idea down the pub later. They always like a good laugh in there.

Then obviously you don't pay much attention to yourself...

How the deluded speak...

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 08 Jun 19 6.56pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I won't bother in telling you what I have discerned about your character. I think that most others, even those who share your political viewpoint, will have worked that out for themselves.

What a relief. No one cares anyway.

Perhaps you would like to give us an example of the perfect socialist utopia with ideal leadership since so far you have bored us all half to death with your Trumpophobia and Nazi paranoia.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 Jun 19 7.39pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

If trump has made the USA such a bad arse place with everyone on the verge of ruin; why are 100ks of people trying to enter.
Maybe just maybe it's not that bad or alternatively these people live under the type of political control which gives them a reason to want to leave.
The type that you wisbech may want to live under.
Seeya and enjoy your utopian society.
Oh no SJW want the benefits of capitalism but don't want capitalism.
Strange individuals.

 

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ChrisGC Flag Wantage 08 Jun 19 7.43pm

I see Mexico caved and gave him what he wanted regarding the border.

Bloke is awesome.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 08 Jun 19 7.50pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

I see Mexico caved and gave him what he wanted regarding the border.

Bloke is awesome.

Ironically he is more than happy to accept immigrants who have something to offer and more importantly buy into the nations way of life, rules and regulations.
Unlike another western country who take any old Tom dick and harry with nothing to offer apart from strange non western views which they want to force on the indigenous majority.

 

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deleted user Flag 08 Jun 19 8.13pm

Originally posted by ChrisGC

I see Mexico caved and gave him what he wanted regarding the border.

The US definitely was lots of leverage in terms of trade agreements and the twisting of arms that hadn't been used as a strategy until Trump. It's hard to know how these things will pan out, but it's certainly a tool in the toolbox.


 

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deleted user Flag 08 Jun 19 8.21pm

Talking of deciding to put the squeeze on countries

Saudi teen facing death penalty for taking part in protests as a child [Link]

I guess saving anyone from such a fate who isn't a foreign citizen via international pressure is a pipe dream, but it's horrendous nonetheless.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 19 8.40pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

And explaining what diversions are isn’t a diversion.
Right.
Got it.
Still no nearer an answer to the original question though.

Perhaps because I won't be diverted?

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 08 Jun 19 8.45pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Perhaps because I won't be diverted?

Not even by posting about diversion?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 19 9.30pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

Not even by posting about diversion?

Explanations are simply being polite!

 


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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 08 Jun 19 9.42pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

Explanations are simply being polite!

Well, I respect your civility.
By the way, the Surinam Toad has a pointed head. Now that’s a diversion.

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 08 Jun 19 9.49pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

The US definitely was lots of leverage in terms of trade agreements and the twisting of arms that hadn't been used as a strategy until Trump. It's hard to know how these things will pan out, but it's certainly a tool in the toolbox.


The biggest bully in the playground always has leverage doesn't he? Until a bigger bully comes along and then those he has been bullying tend to take delight in seeing him face his comeuppance.

That bigger bully may well turn out to be China in the not too distant future and other countries will undoubtedly have long memories. It's always been best to leave friends behind you and not force things through your strength.

Not for nothing is it said that bullies, like cheats, never prosper for long.

In the meantime trade wars and sabre rattling scare markets and raise tensions, without actually benefiting anyone.

Even in this latest episode with Mexico it is far from clear what has actually happened and whether Trump has backed down on his tariff proposals because of internal pressures from those who understand the impact on US consumers and not because any "deal" has been done.

Finding a way to stem the flow of migrants from the south is in both country's interests so it makes sense to find ways to co-operate. That flow has increased almost certainly, in my opinion, because of Trump and the fear among intending migrants that the border will be slammed shut in some way so they need to act now, or never. That there is a current crisis is obvious. How much that has been caused by Trump's rhetoric is not so clear.

It's got worse ever since he started to bang on about his ridiculous "wall", which is not, I think, a co-incidence. There are much better ways to handle this than winding up your political base with sound bites.

 


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