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jamiemartin721  Reading 04 Apr 16 1.35pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
I signed it.... over 400,000 people have now signed that petition. How can a judge or magistrate seriously believe a 21 weeks suspended prison sentence is a just and appropriate outcome for what they did? 400,000 people who are wrong. It is the responsibility of the Judge and justice system to determine sentences, not politicians - Demanding such based on single emotive cases, undermines the concept of a fair and impartial trial. A judge cannot sentence based on what the 'mob' feel, but on the evidence presented in court in a case. Politicians are not impartial to public opinion, Judges must be, if we are to have a free and fair justice system. Even if that means we don't agree with the verdict.
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 Stuk Top half 04 Apr 16 2.08pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
400,000 people who are wrong. It is the responsibility of the Judge and justice system to determine sentences, not politicians - Demanding such based on single emotive cases, undermines the concept of a fair and impartial trial. A judge cannot sentence based on what the 'mob' feel, but on the evidence presented in court in a case. Politicians are not impartial to public opinion, Judges must be, if we are to have a free and fair justice system. Even if that means we don't agree with the verdict. Unless it's a celebrity paedo?
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Apr 16 4.26pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Unless it's a celebrity paedo? We'll we are British, so celebrities are raised up so that the media can throw them back down into the mud. Apparently the Solicitor General can request that a sentence be reviewed by the court of appeal. They're an MP. So I guess, it should be him, rather than the Prime Minister that the petition should be aimed at.
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| Stuk Top half 04 Apr 16 4.39pm |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
We'll we are British, so celebrities are raised up so that the media can throw them back down into the mud. Apparently the Solicitor General can request that a sentence be reviewed by the court of appeal. They're an MP. So I guess, it should be him, rather than the Prime Minister that the petition should be aimed at. I believe anyone can appeal that a sentence is not sufficient.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Apr 16 4.48pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
I believe anyone can appeal that a sentence is not sufficient. Then maybe those 400,000 people should be actually appealing rather than demanding that someone does it on their behalf.
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| Hoof Hearted 04 Apr 16 5.09pm | |
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Originally posted by jamiemartin721
400,000 people who are wrong. It is the responsibility of the Judge and justice system to determine sentences, not politicians - Demanding such based on single emotive cases, undermines the concept of a fair and impartial trial. A judge cannot sentence based on what the 'mob' feel, but on the evidence presented in court in a case. Politicians are not impartial to public opinion, Judges must be, if we are to have a free and fair justice system. Even if that means we don't agree with the verdict. Sometimes you really get my goat with your insistence on telling us all the benefit of your "wisdom" in a high handed fashion. Is there not one subject or situation that you aren't the world's leading authority on it? Anyway.... 400,000+ and I suspect many millions more like-minded people up and down the country who think these two odious excuses for human beings deserve a proper sentence to merit the scale of suffering they inflicted on a defenceless animal does not constitute a "mob". Judges have been known to be wrong with their sentencing and pressure can be brought to bear from the public and the government to make them reconsider their decisions. The Judge in this case has fallen woefully short of proper justice in this episode according to public opinion.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Apr 16 5.17pm |
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Originally posted by Hoof Hearted
Sometimes you really get my goat with your insistence on telling us all the benefit of your "wisdom" in a high handed fashion. Is there not one subject or situation that you aren't the world's leading authority on it? Anyway.... 400,000+ and I suspect many millions more like-minded people up and down the country who think these two odious excuses for human beings deserve a proper sentence to merit the scale of suffering they inflicted on a defenceless animal does not constitute a "mob". Judges have been known to be wrong with their sentencing and pressure can be brought to bear from the public and the government to make them reconsider their decisions. The Judge in this case has fallen woefully short of proper justice in this episode according to public opinion. Always confuses me as to why some seem more concerned about animal welfare than the deaths of innocents escaping persecution or people being bombed in the name of their government.
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| jamiemartin721 Reading 04 Apr 16 5.22pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Always confuses me as to why some seem more concerned about animal welfare than the deaths of innocents escaping persecution or people being bombed in the name of their government. Well obviously its a sliding scale. White British Men I'm not sure where children fit on the scale, because if they're victims their saintly, but if they're criminal they're demons. Edited by jamiemartin721 (04 Apr 2016 5.23pm)
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| Stuk Top half 04 Apr 16 5.23pm |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Always confuses me as to why some seem more concerned about animal welfare than the deaths of innocents escaping persecution or people being bombed in the name of their government. Always confuses me why you bring up a totally irrelevant point. This thread is about animals, not migration or war.
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| nickgusset Shizzlehurst 04 Apr 16 11.10pm |
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Originally posted by Stuk
Always confuses me why you bring up a totally irrelevant point. This thread is about animals, not migration or war. Erm, read my post again.
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| derby eagle Derby 05 Apr 16 12.28am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Erm, read my post again. So why does it confuse you? I'm also confused!
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| Canterbury Palace Whitstable 05 Apr 16 1.53am |
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Always confuses me as to why some seem more concerned about animal welfare than the deaths of innocents escaping persecution or people being bombed in the name of their government. I am confused by this innate arrogance in the assumption that our lives are somehow more valuable than that of animals. Why? I've never received anything but love from the dogs that I've owned. Humans, on the other hand, are complete arseholes. A notion furthered by the three examples within your post. Edited by Canterbury Palace (05 Apr 2016 1.55am)
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