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.TUX. 24 Sep 19 11.02am
Originally posted by Matov I am slightly in awe of the genius behind using this kid to front the Green Movement. And yes, creepy as f*** the way this girl being put up on a pedestal and held aloft like some kind of herald. All very 'Wicker Man' or 'Children of the Corn' (the first one was mine, the second I stole) with grown adults adoringly worshipping at the shrine of Nordic purity. Leni Riefenstahl could not have stage managed this show better. Personally I adored the scowl yesterday aimed at Trump. Absolutely wonderful. And the perfect posing of the 'when did you stop beating your wife' question for our times in terms of anybody having the audacity to question why this kid has such pre-eminence now. I mean who can slate a blond haired blue eyed kid, with an emotional expression disability, for wanting to save the Whales? Or the Polar Bears? Or whatever cute creature is the meme of the month for the usual suspects? Chaps, I think we have to concede this one. An absolute gem of a stroke. Only thing they have let themselves down on is that she is white. Could possibly, at some stage, come back to haunt them. But we will see. Other than that, sheer perfection. Spot on. Hopefully she'll be fine when she's outlived her usefulness. Buy Litecoin.

.TUX.

24 Sep 19 11.02am

Originally posted by Matov

I am slightly in awe of the genius behind using this kid to front the Green Movement.

And yes, creepy as f*** the way this girl being put up on a pedestal and held aloft like some kind of herald. All very 'Wicker Man' or 'Children of the Corn' (the first one was mine, the second I stole) with grown adults adoringly worshipping at the shrine of Nordic purity. Leni Riefenstahl could not have stage managed this show better.

Personally I adored the scowl yesterday aimed at Trump. Absolutely wonderful. And the perfect posing of the 'when did you stop beating your wife' question for our times in terms of anybody having the audacity to question why this kid has such pre-eminence now.

I mean who can slate a blond haired blue eyed kid, with an emotional expression disability, for wanting to save the Whales? Or the Polar Bears? Or whatever cute creature is the meme of the month for the usual suspects?

Chaps, I think we have to concede this one. An absolute gem of a stroke. Only thing they have let themselves down on is that she is white. Could possibly, at some stage, come back to haunt them. But we will see. Other than that, sheer perfection.

Spot on.

Hopefully she'll be fine when she's outlived her usefulness.

Buy Litecoin.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 24 Sep 19 11.11am
To achieve the desired aims it looks like we’ll have to go back to a bygone era that remainers chuck at leave voters. You don’t have to look very far to find young people not much older than Greta that don’t give a fvck, or if they do, it’s just words. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 24 Sep 19 11.11am

To achieve the desired aims it looks like we’ll have to go back to a bygone era that remainers chuck at leave voters.

You don’t have to look very far to find young people not much older than Greta that don’t give a fvck, or if they do, it’s just words.

COYP

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Sep 19 11.39am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman To achieve the desired aims it looks like we’ll have to go back to a bygone era that remainers chuck at leave voters. You don’t have to look very far to find young people not much older than Greta that don’t give a fvck, or if they do, it’s just words. I don’t know where abouts you’re based, but consistently I find your generalisations of young people to be miles from reality. This is far and away the most ‘climate-friendly’ generation there has ever been - I’m not sure why you’re determined to make out they are hypocrites (of course some exist), but from what I see and experience they live by what they preach.

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 24 Sep 19 11.39am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

To achieve the desired aims it looks like we’ll have to go back to a bygone era that remainers chuck at leave voters.

You don’t have to look very far to find young people not much older than Greta that don’t give a fvck, or if they do, it’s just words.

I don’t know where abouts you’re based, but consistently I find your generalisations of young people to be miles from reality.

This is far and away the most ‘climate-friendly’ generation there has ever been - I’m not sure why you’re determined to make out they are hypocrites (of course some exist), but from what I see and experience they live by what they preach.

Matov 24 Sep 19 11.49am
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow This is far and away the most ‘climate-friendly’ generation there has ever been - I’m not sure why you’re determined to make out they are hypocrites (of course some exist), but from what I see and experience they live by what they preach. LOL. Yes, lots are now refusing lifts to school. Or flying away on numerous holidays. Or refusing to buy goods that have been imported rather than grown or produced locally. I am in awe of them. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

24 Sep 19 11.49am

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

LOL.

Yes, lots are now refusing lifts to school. Or flying away on numerous holidays. Or refusing to buy goods that have been imported rather than grown or produced locally. I am in awe of them.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Rudi Hedman Caterham 24 Sep 19 11.56am
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow I don’t know where abouts you’re based, but consistently I find your generalisations of young people to be miles from reality. This is far and away the most ‘climate-friendly’ generation there has ever been - I’m not sure why you’re determined to make out they are hypocrites (of course some exist), but from what I see and experience they live by what they preach. I’ve seen lots just put, leave or chuck their s* in normal rubbish, whether that be in street bins or in the gym. You’re probably right that this generation are more conscious, but trust me, there are plenty who aren’t. Back in the days when people were destroying the planet people were reusing and recycling everything. Okay they had to, but it happened. Well they didn’t have to return the large coke bottle for 10p but they did it. I’m not trying to make out the ones preaching are hypocrites but there’s a lot of ignorant ones causing plastic or glass waste while I am recycling everything I buy that’s packaged. COYP**

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 24 Sep 19 11.56am

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

I don’t know where abouts you’re based, but consistently I find your generalisations of young people to be miles from reality.

I’ve seen lots just put, leave or chuck their s*** in normal rubbish, whether that be in street bins or in the gym.

You’re probably right that this generation are more conscious, but trust me, there are plenty who aren’t. Back in the days when people were destroying the planet people were reusing and recycling everything. Okay they had to, but it happened. Well they didn’t have to return the large coke bottle for 10p but they did it.

I’m not trying to make out the ones preaching are hypocrites but there’s a lot of ignorant ones causing plastic or glass waste while I am recycling everything I buy that’s packaged.

COYP

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Sep 19 11.57am
Originally posted by Matov LOL. Yes, lots are now refusing lifts to school. Or flying away on numerous holidays. Or refusing to buy goods that have been imported rather than grown or produced locally. I am in awe of them. Anyone can make vague generalisations - it’s not proof of anything. I’m open to be convinced, but telling me ‘lots are now refusing lifts to school’ is just hot air, pun intended.

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 24 Sep 19 11.57am

Originally posted by Matov

LOL.

Yes, lots are now refusing lifts to school. Or flying away on numerous holidays. Or refusing to buy goods that have been imported rather than grown or produced locally. I am in awe of them.

Anyone can make vague generalisations - it’s not proof of anything.

I’m open to be convinced, but telling me ‘lots are now refusing lifts to school’ is just hot air, pun intended.

Matov 24 Sep 19 12.00pm
I don't recall seeing too many young school kids wearing yellow jackets in the French uprising at the moment. I do wonder what the reaction would be if a child with emotional issues was being used to front that particular movement? "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

24 Sep 19 12.00pm

I don't recall seeing too many young school kids wearing yellow jackets in the French uprising at the moment. I do wonder what the reaction would be if a child with emotional issues was being used to front that particular movement?

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Sep 19 12.01pm
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman I’ve seen lots just put, leave or chuck their s*** in normal rubbish, whether that be in street bins or in the gym. You’re probably right that this generation are more conscious, but trust me, there are plenty who aren’t. Back in the days when people were destroying the planet people were reusing and recycling everything. Okay they had to, but it happened. Well they didn’t have to return the large coke bottle for 10p but they did it. I’m not trying to make out the ones preaching are hypocrites but there’s a lot of ignorant ones causing plastic or glass waste while I am recycling everything I buy that’s packaged. Sure, but you’re talking about a generation of people - you’re always going to have some within it who don’t care. I don’t have the numbers, but I’d be very confident that recycling per person or household is up massively since ‘back in the days’ - but your perception is that a generation who recycled less “recycled and reused everything”, whereas those who recycle more don’t - that’s kind of what I’m getting at.

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 24 Sep 19 12.01pm

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

I’ve seen lots just put, leave or chuck their s*** in normal rubbish, whether that be in street bins or in the gym.

I’m not trying to make out the ones preaching are hypocrites but there’s a lot of ignorant ones causing plastic or glass waste while I am recycling everything I buy that’s packaged.

Sure, but you’re talking about a generation of people - you’re always going to have some within it who don’t care.

I don’t have the numbers, but I’d be very confident that recycling per person or household is up massively since ‘back in the days’ - but your perception is that a generation who recycled less “recycled and reused everything”, whereas those who recycle more don’t - that’s kind of what I’m getting at.

Charlie Croker Hampshire 24 Sep 19 12.03pm
Originally posted by Jimenez She's a fake. She is a mouthpiece for leftist agitators. She is bankrolled by Al Gore & his cohorts. She could easily go to China or India or any other country in the Middle East but chooses the USA. I'm all for saving the planet but she targets the wrong countries Because that's where the UN conference is taking place. And I guess partly because Trump is a vocal opponent of climate change. That said - she winds me up and undoubtedly is being feted by politicians from around the world to jump on a bandwagon - but the fact that she (or her backers if you prefer) have created a movement cannot be denied and if it helps in the short or long term, then all well and good. “My experience of life is that it is not divided up into genres; it’s a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you’re lucky."

Charlie Croker

Hampshire 24 Sep 19 12.03pm

Originally posted by Jimenez

She's a fake. She is a mouthpiece for leftist agitators. She is bankrolled by Al Gore & his cohorts. She could easily go to China or India or any other country in the Middle East but chooses the USA.
I'm all for saving the planet but she targets the wrong countries

Because that's where the UN conference is taking place. And I guess partly because Trump is a vocal opponent of climate change.

That said - she winds me up and undoubtedly is being feted by politicians from around the world to jump on a bandwagon - but the fact that she (or her backers if you prefer) have created a movement cannot be denied and if it helps in the short or long term, then all well and good.

“My experience of life is that it is not divided up into genres; it’s a horrifying, romantic, tragic, comical, science-fiction cowboy detective novel. You know, with a bit of pornography if you’re lucky."

Matov 24 Sep 19 12.06pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Sure, but you’re talking about a generation of people - you’re always going to have some within it who don’t care. I don’t have the numbers, but I’d be very confident that recycling per person or household is up massively since ‘back in the days’ - but your perception is that a generation who recycled less “recycled and reused everything”, whereas those who recycle more don’t - that’s kind of what I’m getting at. Because they threaten to fine us if we don't. With the irony being that we have more holes in the ground than we know what to do with and that using them as landfill actually offers a whole raft of benefits. Still lets all worship at the feet of a 16 year old girl because that is not creepy in the slightest. And lets listen more to young people. They are wise beyond their years. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

24 Sep 19 12.06pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Sure, but you’re talking about a generation of people - you’re always going to have some within it who don’t care.

Because they threaten to fine us if we don't. With the irony being that we have more holes in the ground than we know what to do with and that using them as landfill actually offers a whole raft of benefits.

Still lets all worship at the feet of a 16 year old girl because that is not creepy in the slightest. And lets listen more to young people. They are wise beyond their years.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

sickboy Deal or Croydon 24 Sep 19 12.06pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Sure, but you’re talking about a generation of people - you’re always going to have some within it who don’t care. I don’t have the numbers, but I’d be very confident that recycling per person or household is up massively since ‘back in the days’ - but your perception is that a generation who recycled less “recycled and reused everything”, whereas those who recycle more don’t - that’s kind of what I’m getting at. I think its fairly obvious this particular generation have a far higher usage of electrical powered items than those in the past. Must be a lot of wind turbines in back gardens that cant be seen. Also look how many get lifts to and from school and indeed everywhere.

sickboy

Deal or Croydon 24 Sep 19 12.06pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Sure, but you’re talking about a generation of people - you’re always going to have some within it who don’t care.

I think its fairly obvious this particular generation have a far higher usage of electrical powered items than those in the past. Must be a lot of wind turbines in back gardens that cant be seen.
Also look how many get lifts to and from school and indeed everywhere.

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Sep 19 12.13pm
Originally posted by sickboy I think its fairly obvious this particular generation have a far higher usage of electrical powered items than those in the past. Must be a lot of wind turbines in back gardens that cant be seen. Also look how many get lifts to and from school and indeed everywhere. Well yes, because the technology didn’t exist in the past - I don’t think that’s really a stick to beat them with. Any data on lifts to and from school?

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 24 Sep 19 12.13pm

Originally posted by sickboy

Well yes, because the technology didn’t exist in the past - I don’t think that’s really a stick to beat them with.

Any data on lifts to and from school?

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Sep 19 12.16pm
Originally posted by Matov Because they threaten to fine us if we don't. With the irony being that we have more holes in the ground than we know what to do with and that using them as landfill actually offers a whole raft of benefits. Still lets all worship at the feet of a 16 year old girl because that is not creepy in the slightest. And lets listen more to young people. They are wise beyond their years. There are positions that exist between yours and worshipping the feet of Greta - you have a real taste for hyperbole

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 24 Sep 19 12.16pm

Originally posted by Matov

Still lets all worship at the feet of a 16 year old girl because that is not creepy in the slightest. And lets listen more to young people. They are wise beyond their years.

There are positions that exist between yours and worshipping the feet of Greta - you have a real taste for hyperbole

sickboy Deal or Croydon 24 Sep 19 12.19pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Well yes, because the technology didn’t exist in the past - I don’t think that’s really a stick to beat them with. Any data on lifts to and from school? Just go out during rush hour during the school holidays and see how light the traffic is. Anyone can see that. No figures needed its so obvious. Why not have a go at them about their energy consumption.? Previous generations are getting blamed for things we were unaware of, yet their usage is higher than ours was.

sickboy

Deal or Croydon 24 Sep 19 12.19pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Well yes, because the technology didn’t exist in the past - I don’t think that’s really a stick to beat them with.

Any data on lifts to and from school?

Just go out during rush hour during the school holidays and see how light the traffic is. Anyone can see that. No figures needed its so obvious.
Why not have a go at them about their energy consumption.? Previous generations are getting blamed for things we were unaware of, yet their usage is higher than ours was.

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Sep 19 12.34pm
Originally posted by sickboy Just go out during rush hour during the school holidays and see how light the traffic is. Anyone can see that. No figures needed its so obvious. Why not have a go at them about their energy consumption.? Previous generations are getting blamed for things we were unaware of, yet their usage is higher than ours was. We have no idea how it compares with previous generations is the point; reduced traffic during school holidays is a long way from being a new thing. If the energy consumption is excessive, by all means have a go, but criticising them because they live in a more technologically advanced world is silly. Also, I think most on here are conflating two huge groups as one and the same; the real eco-warrior teenage types who follow Greta are not the kids you see driving to school in Croydon - the whole point in their movement is to make others care as much as them, and that’s within their own age group as well as outside of it.

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 24 Sep 19 12.34pm

Originally posted by sickboy

We have no idea how it compares with previous generations is the point; reduced traffic during school holidays is a long way from being a new thing.

If the energy consumption is excessive, by all means have a go, but criticising them because they live in a more technologically advanced world is silly.

Also, I think most on here are conflating two huge groups as one and the same; the real eco-warrior teenage types who follow Greta are not the kids you see driving to school in Croydon - the whole point in their movement is to make others care as much as them, and that’s within their own age group as well as outside of it.

cryrst The garden of England 24 Sep 19 12.34pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow Well yes, because the technology didn’t exist in the past - I don’t think that’s really a stick to beat them with. Any data on lifts to and from school? Being mobile in my job I would say during school holidays the traffic is at least 15% lighter. A journey from kent to london reduces by at least 20 minutes.

cryrst

The garden of England 24 Sep 19 12.34pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Well yes, because the technology didn’t exist in the past - I don’t think that’s really a stick to beat them with.

Any data on lifts to and from school?

Being mobile in my job I would say during school holidays the traffic is at least 15% lighter.
A journey from kent to london reduces by at least 20 minutes.

dannyboy1978 24 Sep 19 12.36pm
All thus climate change nonsense. It was call climate warming and we got told to have water meters , then it's changed to climate change as we have just as much rain. As a kid I got told the Amazon was having 10 football pitches a minute cut down, guess what!!! My 11 year old son came home saying excactly the same thing 30 years later!! Even the river Thames froze over in Victorian days!! All nonsense for an alternative agenda !! Charging for emission zones Upgrade your car to be "cleaner" People are getting rich ofn the back of all this!

dannyboy1978

24 Sep 19 12.36pm

All thus climate change nonsense.

It was call climate warming and we got told to have water meters , then it's changed to climate change as we have just as much rain.

As a kid I got told the Amazon was having 10 football pitches a minute cut down, guess what!!! My 11 year old son came home saying excactly the same thing 30 years later!!

Even the river Thames froze over in Victorian days!!

All nonsense for an alternative agenda !!
Charging for emission zones
Upgrade your car to be "cleaner"

People are getting rich ofn the back of all this!

Alex1991 Ashford 24 Sep 19 12.37pm
This thread shows exactly what the issues are. It's a lot easier to call it a conspiracy, or to pretend that the climate isn't changing, or that an ice-age is coming, or that there is no point because of China and India, instead of facing up to the realities of what our actions are doing to the planet. So many of you claim to hate liberal snowflakes and yet you are literally being triggered by a 16 year old who is telling you the truth. Over 95% of scientists agree with the conclusion that humans are causing the climate to change. If you want to believe the head in the sand posters on the Holmesdale or the 5% of scientists who are being bankrolled by fossil fuel lobbyists then go ahead. Perhaps when the problems are at your door instead of affecting people in other countries you might stop being so selfish. "Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017.

Alex1991

Ashford 24 Sep 19 12.37pm

This thread shows exactly what the issues are. It's a lot easier to call it a conspiracy, or to pretend that the climate isn't changing, or that an ice-age is coming, or that there is no point because of China and India, instead of facing up to the realities of what our actions are doing to the planet.

So many of you claim to hate liberal snowflakes and yet you are literally being triggered by a 16 year old who is telling you the truth. Over 95% of scientists agree with the conclusion that humans are causing the climate to change. If you want to believe the head in the sand posters on the Holmesdale or the 5% of scientists who are being bankrolled by fossil fuel lobbyists then go ahead. Perhaps when the problems are at your door instead of affecting people in other countries you might stop being so selfish.

"Brighton are talking about how they're coming for us. And it's like, we've been waiting in the Premier League for you for ages." Wilfried Zaha, 2017.

EverybodyDannsNow SE19 24 Sep 19 12.42pm
Originally posted by dannyboy1978 All thus climate change nonsense. It was call climate warming and we got told to have water meters , then it's changed to climate change as we have just as much rain. As a kid I got told the Amazon was having 10 football pitches a minute cut down, guess what!!! My 11 year old son came home saying excactly the same thing 30 years later!! Even the river Thames froze over in Victorian days!! All nonsense for an alternative agenda !! Charging for emission zones Upgrade your car to be "cleaner" People are getting rich ofn the back of all this! You’ve cracked it.

EverybodyDannsNow

SE19 24 Sep 19 12.42pm

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

All thus climate change nonsense.

It was call climate warming and we got told to have water meters , then it's changed to climate change as we have just as much rain.

As a kid I got told the Amazon was having 10 football pitches a minute cut down, guess what!!! My 11 year old son came home saying excactly the same thing 30 years later!!

Even the river Thames froze over in Victorian days!!

All nonsense for an alternative agenda !!
Charging for emission zones
Upgrade your car to be "cleaner"

People are getting rich ofn the back of all this!

You’ve cracked it.

sickboy Deal or Croydon 24 Sep 19 12.43pm
Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow We have no idea how it compares with previous generations is the point; reduced traffic during school holidays is a long way from being a new thing. If the energy consumption is excessive, by all means have a go, but criticising them because they live in a more technologically advanced world is silly. Also, I think most on here are conflating two huge groups as one and the same; the real eco-warrior teenage types who follow Greta are not the kids you see driving to school in Croydon - the whole point in their movement is to make others care as much as them, and that’s within their own age group as well as outside of it. Simple fact is there are more cars on the road today than ever before and more kids get lifts all over the place than ever before. Easy to see with your own eyes so i wont bother arguing any more on that. This generation are blaming past generations for climate change due to fossil fuel usage. We didnt have anything else or know any different so that is the same as the defence you have put forward for them living in a tech driven age.

sickboy

Deal or Croydon 24 Sep 19 12.43pm

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

We have no idea how it compares with previous generations is the point; reduced traffic during school holidays is a long way from being a new thing.

If the energy consumption is excessive, by all means have a go, but criticising them because they live in a more technologically advanced world is silly.

Simple fact is there are more cars on the road today than ever before and more kids get lifts all over the place than ever before. Easy to see with your own eyes so i wont bother arguing any more on that.
This generation are blaming past generations for climate change due to fossil fuel usage. We didnt have anything else or know any different so that is the same as the defence you have put forward for them living in a tech driven age.

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