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Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 30 Jul 21 3.38pm
Originally posted by Jacey Keir today appeared on BBC today,sporting the most unbelievable red face.Perhaps he fell asleep in the sunshine listening to one of his many dreary,mostly irrelevant speeches?? Edited by Jacey (30 Jul 2021 3.21pm) Inevitably some group will proclaim Starmer is exhibiting cultural appropriation which offends someone or other,.... I disengage, I turn the page.

Forest Hillbilly

in a hidey-hole 30 Jul 21 3.38pm

Originally posted by Jacey

Keir today appeared on BBC today,sporting the most unbelievable red face.Perhaps he fell asleep in the sunshine listening to one of his many dreary,mostly irrelevant speeches??

Edited by Jacey (30 Jul 2021 3.21pm)

Inevitably some group will proclaim Starmer is exhibiting cultural appropriation which offends someone or other,....

I disengage, I turn the page.

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Aug 21 10.23pm
He was walking around Scotland today connecting with young people - so he didn't wear a jacket and tie, just the rest of the suit. He's cool, he's down with the kids. I think his second main slogan was let's fight climate change together. The first was entirely forgettable. Something about strong values or something. He must think he's in the Green Party. Someone tell him what Labour is please. He reminds me of a flustered local Councillor who wants bins put in the Matalan car park. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Aug 21 10.23pm

He was walking around Scotland today connecting with young people - so he didn't wear a jacket and tie, just the rest of the suit. He's cool, he's down with the kids. I think his second main slogan was let's fight climate change together. The first was entirely forgettable. Something about strong values or something. He must think he's in the Green Party. Someone tell him what Labour is please. He reminds me of a flustered local Councillor who wants bins put in the Matalan car park.

Red and Blue Army!

Rudi Hedman Caterham 04 Aug 21 11.13pm
It’s like he’s a secret Tory agent. Maybe he is. COYP

Rudi Hedman

Caterham 04 Aug 21 11.13pm

It’s like he’s a secret Tory agent. Maybe he is.

COYP

BlueJay UK 05 Aug 21 7.43am
Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly Inevitably some group will proclaim Starmer is exhibiting cultural appropriation which offends someone or other,.... He is appropriating the look of a garden gnome. It's unacceptable.

BlueJay

UK 05 Aug 21 7.43am

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

Inevitably some group will proclaim Starmer is exhibiting cultural appropriation which offends someone or other,....

He is appropriating the look of a garden gnome. It's unacceptable.

Badger11 Beckenham 05 Aug 21 8.22am
Originally posted by Rudi Hedman It’s like he’s a secret Tory agent. Maybe he is. Nah that was Agent Corbyn who did a great job for the Tories. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 05 Aug 21 8.22am

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

It’s like he’s a secret Tory agent. Maybe he is.

Nah that was Agent Corbyn who did a great job for the Tories.

One more point

HKOwen Hong Kong 07 Aug 21 12.53am
I still foresee a Labour split, there is no common ground for Starmer factions and Corbynista factions except the desire to hang on to taxpayer funded head in trough job, which is a powerful incentive. Looking forward to the Rayner-Butler attacks on Starmer at the conference, could be farcical theatre Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 07 Aug 21 12.53am

I still foresee a Labour split, there is no common ground for Starmer factions and Corbynista factions except the desire to hang on to taxpayer funded head in trough job, which is a powerful incentive.

Looking forward to the Rayner-Butler attacks on Starmer at the conference, could be farcical theatre

Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

Matov 07 Aug 21 8.54am
Originally posted by HKOwen I still foresee a Labour split, there is no common ground for Starmer factions and Corbynista factions except the desire to hang on to taxpayer funded head in trough job, which is a powerful incentive. Looking forward to the Rayner-Butler attacks on Starmer at the conference, could be farcical theatre The problem for the Left is that due to our FPTP system, then any split leaves to chasing its tail. If we had PR, Labour have split ages ago. But as it is, Labour still represents the only genuine chance of electoral success for the Left in this country. Lets not forget that a Corbyn led Labour party back in 2017 pulled in 40% of the vote. And I am convinced that if Labour had not embarked on its suicidal second Brexit referendum policy, Corbyn could well be PM now. Ignore the likes of Dawn Butler. Not even a second rate politician. Beyond poor. Rayner is a different kettle of fish and has the crucial TU backing but the truth is that despite the grumblings from the Labour left, they will fall into line. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

07 Aug 21 8.54am

Originally posted by HKOwen

Looking forward to the Rayner-Butler attacks on Starmer at the conference, could be farcical theatre

The problem for the Left is that due to our FPTP system, then any split leaves to chasing its tail. If we had PR, Labour have split ages ago. But as it is, Labour still represents the only genuine chance of electoral success for the Left in this country.

Lets not forget that a Corbyn led Labour party back in 2017 pulled in 40% of the vote. And I am convinced that if Labour had not embarked on its suicidal second Brexit referendum policy, Corbyn could well be PM now.

Ignore the likes of Dawn Butler. Not even a second rate politician. Beyond poor. Rayner is a different kettle of fish and has the crucial TU backing but the truth is that despite the grumblings from the Labour left, they will fall into line.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

PalazioVecchio south pole 07 Aug 21 11.52pm
Starmer has been singing the praises of Tony Blair. PPolitical suicide if u ask me Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

PalazioVecchio

south pole 07 Aug 21 11.52pm

Starmer has been singing the praises of Tony Blair.

PPolitical suicide if u ask me

Kayla did Anfield & Old Trafford

Matov 08 Aug 21 7.16am
Originally posted by PalazioVecchio Starmer has been singing the praises of Tony Blair. PPolitical suicide if u ask me Something odd is going on. Blair has been making very orchestrated moves in the media which does seem to indicated that he might be looking to make a move back into the political arena. Also, Starmer's new Chief of Staff, due to take up his role in September, is linked back to the old Blair/Brown regime. Always a crucial role and an appointment that speaks volumes about the direction a leader is intent on following. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

08 Aug 21 7.16am

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Starmer has been singing the praises of Tony Blair.

PPolitical suicide if u ask me

Something odd is going on. Blair has been making very orchestrated moves in the media which does seem to indicated that he might be looking to make a move back into the political arena.

Also, Starmer's new Chief of Staff, due to take up his role in September, is linked back to the old Blair/Brown regime. Always a crucial role and an appointment that speaks volumes about the direction a leader is intent on following.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

HKOwen Hong Kong 10 Aug 21 9.07am
I find it very odd war criminal BLair and his Goebbels Alastair Campbell get so much air time. Absolutely no mea culpa for taking the UK into an illegal war with sexed up documents presented to Parliament for a vote Originally posted by Matov Something odd is going on. Blair has been making very orchestrated moves in the media which does seem to indicated that he might be looking to make a move back into the political arena. Also, Starmer's new Chief of Staff, due to take up his role in September, is linked back to the old Blair/Brown regime. Always a crucial role and an appointment that speaks volumes about the direction a leader is intent on following. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 10 Aug 21 9.07am

I find it very odd war criminal BLair and his Goebbels Alastair Campbell get so much air time.

Absolutely no mea culpa for taking the UK into an illegal war with sexed up documents presented to Parliament for a vote

Originally posted by Matov

Something odd is going on. Blair has been making very orchestrated moves in the media which does seem to indicated that he might be looking to make a move back into the political arena.

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Aug 21 9.54am
Blair is on gravy train Europe/UN - he won't be interested in Commons politics, except to get the odd dig in. Not enough money in it. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Aug 21 9.54am

Blair is on gravy train Europe/UN - he won't be interested in Commons politics, except to get the odd dig in. Not enough money in it.

Red and Blue Army!

Badger11 Beckenham 10 Aug 21 10.02am
This is why Labour still don't get it. [Link] One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 10 Aug 21 10.02am

This is why Labour still don't get it.

[Link]

One more point

Slimey Toad Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 10 Aug 21 10.12am
Originally posted by Badger11 This is why Labour still don't get it. [Link] It's just 50 individuals. Why is it a racist tactic/dragnet when the loss of just 50 black people in the UK makes absolutely no difference to the demographic?

Slimey Toad

Karsiyaka, North Cyprus 10 Aug 21 10.12am

Originally posted by Badger11

This is why Labour still don't get it.

[Link]

It's just 50 individuals. Why is it a racist tactic/dragnet when the loss of just 50 black people in the UK makes absolutely no difference to the demographic?

ASCPFC Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Aug 21 11.03am
Originally posted by Slimey Toad It's just 50 individuals. Why is it a racist tactic/dragnet when the loss of just 50 black people in the UK makes absolutely no difference to the demographic? People who are literally too stupid to apply for citizenship and then commit violent crimes. Then they cry racist. I cry fock off. Red and Blue Army!

ASCPFC

Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Aug 21 11.03am

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

It's just 50 individuals. Why is it a racist tactic/dragnet when the loss of just 50 black people in the UK makes absolutely no difference to the demographic?

People who are literally too stupid to apply for citizenship and then commit violent crimes. Then they cry racist. I cry fock off.

Red and Blue Army!

Matov 10 Aug 21 7.50pm
Originally posted by ASCPFC Blair is on gravy train Europe/UN - he won't be interested in Commons politics, except to get the odd dig in. Not enough money in it. With people like Blair, it's not about money. His Mrs is rather fond of a £ note but with him, its about the power. Blair has more money than he could ever spend and he had never struck me as the type to swan about in ludicrous cars and so on. Oddly enough on Sunday, I believe Blair did let it be known that he was not interested in a return to the Commons but that still makes no sense if you look at how structured his media appearences have been. Blair is good at that s*, and does not make moves without having a notion of what is down the line, several steps ahead. That f*er is making moves and it's a genuine struggle to work out the why. "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

Matov

10 Aug 21 7.50pm

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Blair is on gravy train Europe/UN - he won't be interested in Commons politics, except to get the odd dig in. Not enough money in it.

With people like Blair, it's not about money. His Mrs is rather fond of a £ note but with him, its about the power. Blair has more money than he could ever spend and he had never struck me as the type to swan about in ludicrous cars and so on.

Oddly enough on Sunday, I believe Blair did let it be known that he was not interested in a return to the Commons but that still makes no sense if you look at how structured his media appearences have been. Blair is good at that s***, and does not make moves without having a notion of what is down the line, several steps ahead.

That f***er is making moves and it's a genuine struggle to work out the why.

"The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - 1984 - George Orwell.

steeleye20 Croydon 11 Aug 21 6.38pm
Originally posted by Badger11 This is why Labour still don't get it. [Link] Thank you dear B, can you send us a link to the Daily Mail for the actual flight itself.

steeleye20

Croydon 11 Aug 21 6.38pm

Originally posted by Badger11

This is why Labour still don't get it.

[Link]

Thank you dear B, can you send us a link to the Daily Mail for the actual flight itself.

HKOwen Hong Kong 14 Aug 21 10.14am
Hard to argue with this Originally posted by ASCPFC People who are literally too stupid to apply for citizenship and then commit violent crimes. Then they cry racist. I cry fock off. Responsibility Deficit Disorder is a medical condition. Symptoms include inability to be corrected when wrong, false sense of superiority, desire to share personal info no else cares about, general hubris. It's a medical issue rather than pure arrogance.

HKOwen

Hong Kong 14 Aug 21 10.14am

Hard to argue with this

Originally posted by ASCPFC

People who are literally too stupid to apply for citizenship and then commit violent crimes. Then they cry racist. I cry fock off.

Badger11 Beckenham 14 Aug 21 10.23am
Originally posted by steeleye20 Thank you dear B, can you send us a link to the Daily Mail for the actual flight itself. Only a handful were actually deported the rest are appealing again. More than happy for those who oppose deportation like Diane Abbott to take personal and financial responsibility for them. Perhaps they would like a paedophile to baby sit or a house guest who is a murderer or drug dealer. No didn't think so, disgustingly they keep bringing up Windrush, disgustingly because overwhelmingly those folk were decent hard working people unfairly treated by the Home Office and they are compared to convicted scum. The number of non whites deported is dwarfed by the number of white mainly Europeans. Besides its the crime that you are convicted of not the colour of your skin. One more point

Badger11

Beckenham 14 Aug 21 10.23am

Originally posted by steeleye20

Thank you dear B, can you send us a link to the Daily Mail for the actual flight itself.

Only a handful were actually deported the rest are appealing again.

More than happy for those who oppose deportation like Diane Abbott to take personal and financial responsibility for them. Perhaps they would like a paedophile to baby sit or a house guest who is a murderer or drug dealer.

No didn't think so, disgustingly they keep bringing up Windrush, disgustingly because overwhelmingly those folk were decent hard working people unfairly treated by the Home Office and they are compared to convicted scum.

The number of non whites deported is dwarfed by the number of white mainly Europeans. Besides its the crime that you are convicted of not the colour of your skin.

One more point

Willo South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Aug 21 10.28am
Originally posted by Badger11 Only a handful were actually deported the rest are appealing again. More than happy for those who oppose deportation like Diane Abbott to take personal and financial responsibility for them. Perhaps they would like a paedophile to baby sit or a house guest who is a murderer or drug dealer. No didn't think so, disgustingly they keep bringing up Windrush, disgustingly because overwhelmingly those folk were decent hard working people unfairly treated by the Home Office and they are compared to convicted scum. The number of non whites deported is dwarfed by the number of white mainly Europeans. Besides its the crime that you are convicted of not the colour of your skin. I have certainly 'warmed' to these sentiments. I was on my 'Soapbox' about this only last night.

Willo

South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Aug 21 10.28am

Originally posted by Badger11

Only a handful were actually deported the rest are appealing again.

The number of non whites deported is dwarfed by the number of white mainly Europeans. Besides its the crime that you are convicted of not the colour of your skin.

I have certainly 'warmed' to these sentiments.
I was on my 'Soapbox' about this only last night.

Forest Hillbilly in a hidey-hole 14 Aug 21 10.44am
Just a tad concerning that Abbott and her political types are getting media space. And it might only be a tiny bit of media space in an niche newspaper,...but it is still waaaaay more than Starmer is getting. Even Hancock on holiday has got more coverage than anything Starmer might think of doing. Let's hope he is planning and formulating a formidable opposition party, which has credible designs on power. Soon to be released on the UK public. Or are we to endure more Hancock holiday selfies and Boris soundbites ? P155 poor Government, kept in power by inept opposition. UK is politically bankrupt. I disengage, I turn the page.

Forest Hillbilly

in a hidey-hole 14 Aug 21 10.44am

Just a tad concerning that Abbott and her political types are getting media space. And it might only be a tiny bit of media space in an niche newspaper,...but it is still waaaaay more than Starmer is getting.

Even Hancock on holiday has got more coverage than anything Starmer might think of doing. Let's hope he is planning and formulating a formidable opposition party, which has credible designs on power. Soon to be released on the UK public.

Or are we to endure more Hancock holiday selfies and Boris soundbites ?

P155 poor Government, kept in power by inept opposition. UK is politically bankrupt.

I disengage, I turn the page.

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