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Sedlescombe Flag Sedlescombe 25 Jan 17 4.57pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

You mean like he did when he pretended he was a Remainer?

Firstly politicians have always argued for individual policies they dont agree with because politics is a team game. in any case I dont recall Corbyn ever expressing a personal view in favour of Remain (much to the annoyance of the Labour campaiign to stay in) but articulated the Labour Party position which was in favour of remain.

 

Sedlescombe Flag Sedlescombe 25 Jan 17 4.57pm

Originally posted by Part Time James

We'd only be on page 5 of this debate then though!

True...probably though perhaps it would be a liberation for all of us

Edited by Sedlescombe (25 Jan 2017 4.58pm)

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 25 Jan 17 5.14pm

Originally posted by Sedlescombe

Firstly politicians have always argued for individual policies they dont agree with because politics is a team game. in any case I dont recall Corbyn ever expressing a personal view in favour of Remain (much to the annoyance of the Labour campaiign to stay in) but articulated the Labour Party position which was in favour of remain.

Yet you take the opposite stance on Diane Abbott and schools?

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 17 5.22pm

Originally posted by chris123

And what were you calling Theresa May the other day?

I called her the bitch Spawn of Blair, in a thread on how you would describe Theresa May.
The next time I mentioned her I used that name with a wink smiley as a nod to the other thread. I used it as a literary device to amuse myself and others if they saw the link.

Next question please.

 

elgrande Flag bedford 25 Jan 17 5.40pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

1. How do you back up this assertion?
2. Other than 1 tweet taken out of context that I've seen, do you have any examples of her racism?
3. The school thing. Difficult situation to be in - if she can afford to send her son to the school he wants to go to, why not. You are a parent, what would you do? Doesn't mean she doesn't want to aim for a fully comprehensive system.

If you cannot see the hypocrisy in that then there is no hope,as I said don't do as I do do as I say.
And why is only taken out of context when it's a lefties.
And if I could have afforded to send my children to private school when they were at school ..I probably would have,but I wouldn't have preached how bad it is .

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

elgrande Flag bedford 25 Jan 17 5.46pm

And also Google Dianne Abbot racism.....there are loads.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

steeleye20 Flag Croydon 25 Jan 17 5.53pm

The European parliament is to investigate the British government’s treatment of EU nationals living in the UK who have applied for citizenship or permanent residency since the Brexit vote.

Task force being set up will liaise with the brexit EU negotiator Mr. Barnard.

 

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 17 5.55pm

Originally posted by elgrande

If you cannot see the hypocrisy in that then there is no hope,as I said don't do as I do do as I say.
And why is only taken out of context when it's a lefties.
And if I could have afforded to send my children to private school when they were at school ..I probably would have,but I wouldn't have preached how bad it is .

I asked what you based your assertion that Scotland would go to the wall if the left the UK.
Your answer If you cannot see the hypocrisy in that then there is no hope doesn't give me any clue why you think Scotland will go tits up.

I've asked for examples of Dianne Abbott's racism. You said context is a lefty answer. And to say context isn't important is facile.


Edit. Just seen your Google it response.

So you are accusing someone of something but want me to find evidence of it.
I don't think you should ever represent anyone in court!


Edited by nickgusset (25 Jan 2017 6.15pm)

 

elgrande Flag bedford 25 Jan 17 6.38pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

I asked what you based your assertion that Scotland would go to the wall if the left the UK.
Your answer If you cannot see the hypocrisy in that then there is no hope doesn't give me any clue why you think Scotland will go tits up.

I've asked for examples of Dianne Abbott's racism. You said context is a lefty answer. And to say context isn't important is facile.


Edit. Just seen your Google it response.

So you are accusing someone of something but want me to find evidence of it.
I don't think you should ever represent anyone in court!


Edited by nickgusset (25 Jan 2017 6.15pm)

Ha ha brilliant.

 


always a Norwood boy, where ever I live.

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 17 7.08pm

Originally posted by elgrande

Ha ha brilliant.

Is that your final answer?

 

OknotOK Flag Cockfosters, London 25 Jan 17 7.25pm

Originally posted by Sedlescombe

I disagree with you on 3. Given her views and her position in the Labour Party to say she gets a free pass because she can afford "better" is ridiculous.

I have rather more respect for Corbyn who stuck to his principles even at the cost of his relationship splitting up.

There are no circumstances where I would send my children to fee-paying schools. I despise them. What I might do is move house to a place where there are better (state) schools.

To be fair to Diane Abbott she acknowledges the hypocrisy. She says she knew when she made the decision she would get slated for it but decided having seen the schools in her constituency she couldn't justify putting her politics (or credibility) above his education.

She'll never live it down and nor does she expect to.

 


"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 17 7.37pm

Originally posted by OknotOK

To be fair to Diane Abbott she acknowledges the hypocrisy. She says she knew when she made the decision she would get slated for it but decided having seen the schools in her constituency she couldn't justify putting her politics (or credibility) above his education.

She'll never live it down and nor does she expect to.

She's been an mp for 30 years, so must be doing something right.
In that 30 years she has been constantly vilified with the school angle being bought up time and time again or a single tweet that was published out of context that was heavily insinuated to be racist.
If anyone can come up with some other misdemeanors from Abbot (yes we know she shagged Corbyn but that isn't really that big adeal is it.) I'd be only too happy to read about them.
2 things in 30 years of being an MP repeated over and over again you soon get people equating her as a racist hypocrite which then becomes synonymous with her name. Funny how you never hear anything about her policy or good work she does for her constituents.

She's by no means perfect, but if she was racist, do you think that she would be able to hold down a position in the shadow cabinet without the press having an even bigger field day?

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 25 Jan 17 10.14pm

Originally posted by nickgusset

She's been an mp for 30 years, so must be doing something right.
In that 30 years she has been constantly vilified with the school angle being bought up time and time again or a single tweet that was published out of context that was heavily insinuated to be racist.
If anyone can come up with some other misdemeanors from Abbot (yes we know she shagged Corbyn but that isn't really that big adeal is it.) I'd be only too happy to read about them.
2 things in 30 years of being an MP repeated over and over again you soon get people equating her as a racist hypocrite which then becomes synonymous with her name. Funny how you never hear anything about her policy or good work she does for her constituents.

She's by no means perfect, but if she was racist, do you think that she would be able to hold down a position in the shadow cabinet without the press having an even bigger field day?

Because it is the usual double standards and selective outrage of the liberal/left. Racism against black people is treated as the vilest of thought crimes whereas racism against white people, especially Jews (unless expressed by the far right) is considered more or less cool.

Edited by hedgehog50 (25 Jan 2017 10.16pm)

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 25 Jan 17 10.31pm

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Because it is the usual double standards and selective outrage of the liberal/left. Racism against black people is treated as the vilest of thought crimes whereas racism against white people, especially Jews (unless expressed by the far right) is considered more or less cool.

Edited by hedgehog50 (25 Jan 2017 10.16pm)

Give me the evidence showing her to be racist. And not 1 out of context tweet.

 

hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 26 Jan 17 8.19am

Originally posted by nickgusset

Give me the evidence showing her to be racist. And not 1 out of context tweet.

Here's some. Imagine your outrage and foot-stamping if, say Nigel Farage, had said any of these things about black people. I expect you would be round his house smashing windows and damaging his car.

1988, “the British invented racism.”
1996, “blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls” were unsuitable as nurses because they had “never met a black person before”
(Aided and abetted by the racist supporter of attempts to behead policemen, Bernie Grant, who added “Bringing someone here from Finland who has never seen a black person before and expecting them to have to have some empathy with black people is nonsense. Scandinavian people don't know black people—they probably don't know how to take their temperature".)
2012,”White people love playing 'divide and rule' We should not play their game”,
(Nick Clegg called her comments a "stupid and crass generalisation". Nadhim Zahawi, MP, said: “This is racism. If this was a white member of Parliament saying that all black people want to do bad things to us he would have resigned within the hour or been sacked.” Members of the public lodged complaints but the police stated that no investigation would be launched and no charges would be brought against her, saying she “did not commit a criminal offence.” – contrast of course with the likes of John Terry.)
2012, “Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?”

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

Hoof Hearted 26 Jan 17 11.01am

Originally posted by elgrande

Where shall we start nick,little Jimmy krankie will not win a second vote on the referendum ( and she knows it).
If they had independence after we left Europe they would be up s***e creek without a paddle.
There oil is running out,she is doing it to justify her position.
And that brings us to the wonderful Dianne Abbot,well apart from her racist views (which she seems to get away with wonder why).
Then there is the Sheer hypocrisy of the private school fiasco...don't do as I do ..do as I say,the very epitome of the champagne socialist.

Wasting your time.... Union officials DON'T listen!

 

Hoof Hearted 26 Jan 17 11.04am

Originally posted by steeleye20

How about not slagging off anybody at all.

Says the man who is on Theresa May's case 24/7 FFS

 

Part Time James Flag 26 Jan 17 11.07am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Here's some. Imagine your outrage and foot-stamping if, say Nigel Farage, had said any of these things about black people. I expect you would be round his house smashing windows and damaging his car.

1988, “the British invented racism.”
1996, “blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls” were unsuitable as nurses because they had “never met a black person before”
(Aided and abetted by the racist supporter of attempts to behead policemen, Bernie Grant, who added “Bringing someone here from Finland who has never seen a black person before and expecting them to have to have some empathy with black people is nonsense. Scandinavian people don't know black people—they probably don't know how to take their temperature".)
2012,”White people love playing 'divide and rule' We should not play their game”,
(Nick Clegg called her comments a "stupid and crass generalisation". Nadhim Zahawi, MP, said: “This is racism. If this was a white member of Parliament saying that all black people want to do bad things to us he would have resigned within the hour or been sacked.” Members of the public lodged complaints but the police stated that no investigation would be launched and no charges would be brought against her, saying she “did not commit a criminal offence.” – contrast of course with the likes of John Terry.)
2012, “Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?”

I sense an incoming link to a left wing blog post in response to your quotes

 




steeleye20 Flag Croydon 26 Jan 17 11.11am

Originally posted by Hoof Hearted

Says the man who is on Theresa May's case 24/7 FFS

Please supply evidence of this

 

Hoof Hearted 26 Jan 17 11.12am

Originally posted by hedgehog50

Here's some. Imagine your outrage and foot-stamping if, say Nigel Farage, had said any of these things about black people. I expect you would be round his house smashing windows and damaging his car.

1988, “the British invented racism.”
1996, “blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls” were unsuitable as nurses because they had “never met a black person before”
(Aided and abetted by the racist supporter of attempts to behead policemen, Bernie Grant, who added “Bringing someone here from Finland who has never seen a black person before and expecting them to have to have some empathy with black people is nonsense. Scandinavian people don't know black people—they probably don't know how to take their temperature".)
2012,”White people love playing 'divide and rule' We should not play their game”,
(Nick Clegg called her comments a "stupid and crass generalisation". Nadhim Zahawi, MP, said: “This is racism. If this was a white member of Parliament saying that all black people want to do bad things to us he would have resigned within the hour or been sacked.” Members of the public lodged complaints but the police stated that no investigation would be launched and no charges would be brought against her, saying she “did not commit a criminal offence.” – contrast of course with the likes of John Terry.)
2012, “Dubious of black people claiming they’ve never experienced racism. Ever tried hailing a taxi I always wonder?”

Nah.... he wouldn't... but he'd condone Momentum doing it "as stuff like Austerity fcuks up peoples lives blah blah..."

Edited by Hoof Hearted (26 Jan 2017 11.13am)

 

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