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Originally posted by hedgehog50
You mean like he did when he pretended he was a Remainer? Firstly politicians have always argued for individual policies they dont agree with because politics is a team game. in any case I dont recall Corbyn ever expressing a personal view in favour of Remain (much to the annoyance of the Labour campaiign to stay in) but articulated the Labour Party position which was in favour of remain.
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Originally posted by Part Time James
We'd only be on page 5 of this debate then though! True...probably though perhaps it would be a liberation for all of us Edited by Sedlescombe (25 Jan 2017 4.58pm)
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
Firstly politicians have always argued for individual policies they dont agree with because politics is a team game. in any case I dont recall Corbyn ever expressing a personal view in favour of Remain (much to the annoyance of the Labour campaiign to stay in) but articulated the Labour Party position which was in favour of remain. Yet you take the opposite stance on Diane Abbott and schools?
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Originally posted by chris123
And what were you calling Theresa May the other day? I called her the bitch Spawn of Blair, in a thread on how you would describe Theresa May. Next question please.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
1. How do you back up this assertion? If you cannot see the hypocrisy in that then there is no hope,as I said don't do as I do do as I say.
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And also Google Dianne Abbot racism.....there are loads.
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Originally posted by elgrande
If you cannot see the hypocrisy in that then there is no hope,as I said don't do as I do do as I say. I asked what you based your assertion that Scotland would go to the wall if the left the UK. I've asked for examples of Dianne Abbott's racism. You said context is a lefty answer. And to say context isn't important is facile.
So you are accusing someone of something but want me to find evidence of it.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
I asked what you based your assertion that Scotland would go to the wall if the left the UK. I've asked for examples of Dianne Abbott's racism. You said context is a lefty answer. And to say context isn't important is facile.
So you are accusing someone of something but want me to find evidence of it.
Ha ha brilliant.
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Originally posted by elgrande
Ha ha brilliant. Is that your final answer?
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Originally posted by Sedlescombe
I disagree with you on 3. Given her views and her position in the Labour Party to say she gets a free pass because she can afford "better" is ridiculous. I have rather more respect for Corbyn who stuck to his principles even at the cost of his relationship splitting up. There are no circumstances where I would send my children to fee-paying schools. I despise them. What I might do is move house to a place where there are better (state) schools. To be fair to Diane Abbott she acknowledges the hypocrisy. She says she knew when she made the decision she would get slated for it but decided having seen the schools in her constituency she couldn't justify putting her politics (or credibility) above his education. She'll never live it down and nor does she expect to.
"It's almost like a moral decision. Except not really cos noone is going to find out," Jez, Peep Show |
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Originally posted by OknotOK
To be fair to Diane Abbott she acknowledges the hypocrisy. She says she knew when she made the decision she would get slated for it but decided having seen the schools in her constituency she couldn't justify putting her politics (or credibility) above his education. She'll never live it down and nor does she expect to. She's been an mp for 30 years, so must be doing something right. She's by no means perfect, but if she was racist, do you think that she would be able to hold down a position in the shadow cabinet without the press having an even bigger field day?
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Originally posted by nickgusset
She's been an mp for 30 years, so must be doing something right. She's by no means perfect, but if she was racist, do you think that she would be able to hold down a position in the shadow cabinet without the press having an even bigger field day? Because it is the usual double standards and selective outrage of the liberal/left. Racism against black people is treated as the vilest of thought crimes whereas racism against white people, especially Jews (unless expressed by the far right) is considered more or less cool. Edited by hedgehog50 (25 Jan 2017 10.16pm)
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Because it is the usual double standards and selective outrage of the liberal/left. Racism against black people is treated as the vilest of thought crimes whereas racism against white people, especially Jews (unless expressed by the far right) is considered more or less cool. Edited by hedgehog50 (25 Jan 2017 10.16pm) Give me the evidence showing her to be racist. And not 1 out of context tweet.
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Originally posted by nickgusset
Give me the evidence showing her to be racist. And not 1 out of context tweet. Here's some. Imagine your outrage and foot-stamping if, say Nigel Farage, had said any of these things about black people. I expect you would be round his house smashing windows and damaging his car. 1988, “the British invented racism.”
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Originally posted by elgrande
Where shall we start nick,little Jimmy krankie will not win a second vote on the referendum ( and she knows it). Wasting your time.... Union officials DON'T listen!
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| Hoof Hearted 26 Jan 17 11.04am | |
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Originally posted by steeleye20
How about not slagging off anybody at all. Says the man who is on Theresa May's case 24/7 FFS
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Here's some. Imagine your outrage and foot-stamping if, say Nigel Farage, had said any of these things about black people. I expect you would be round his house smashing windows and damaging his car. 1988, “the British invented racism.” I sense an incoming link to a left wing blog post in response to your quotes
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Please supply evidence of this
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| Hoof Hearted 26 Jan 17 11.12am | |
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Originally posted by hedgehog50
Here's some. Imagine your outrage and foot-stamping if, say Nigel Farage, had said any of these things about black people. I expect you would be round his house smashing windows and damaging his car. 1988, “the British invented racism.” Nah.... he wouldn't... but he'd condone Momentum doing it "as stuff like Austerity fcuks up peoples lives blah blah..." Edited by Hoof Hearted (26 Jan 2017 11.13am)
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